Jackie Chan's First Strike and Rumble in the Bronx - October 6, 2015

[Geoff D]

Where is the review for Rumble, anyway?

[kdawq]

Originally Posted by Nada

Man, I love this trailer. This was a great experience in the theater in 1995.

Rumble In The Bronx (1995) Official Trailer - Jackie Chan, Anita Mui Action Movie HD - YouTube

totally agree! was just watching this today and had to watch that trailer, saw in the theatre as well mostly because of that trailer spot

[Drake2222]

Well, maybe with enough folks asking maybe KimchiDVD will release an uncut version of First Strike on blu ray (although most likely upscaled). Regardless an uncut upscaled First Strike would still be a big improvement over a drastically cut true blu ray. Plus Kimchi usually has great packaging / artwork

[Magic Monkey]

Isn't KimchiDVD just a seller, not manufacturer? No point of asking them.

[Drake2222]

Originally Posted by Magic Monkey

Isn't KimchiDVD just a seller, not manufacturer? No point of asking them.

I would think that it would be easier for a seller to arrange an agreement to port existing blu ray discs from other countries to add english subtitles, change region codes etc. When existing blu ray do exist that is. I have a region free player now anyhow. But take something like Rintaro's Metropolis, or the Jackie Chan movies that have a true japan blu ray but with not english subtitles, I would think that they could get some negotiating rights to distribute. But that's just a thought, that the more implied 'demand' there is on the whole, the more general pressure one can put on the industry for certain ttitles

[reason108]

Originally Posted by Drake2222

I would think that it would be easier for a seller to arrange an agreement to port existing blu ray discs from other countries to add english subtitles, change region codes etc. When existing blu ray do exist that is. I have a region free player now anyhow. But take something like Rintaro's Metropolis, or the Jackie Chan movies that have a true japan blu ray but with not english subtitles, I would think that they could get some negotiating rights to distribute. But that's just a thought, that the more implied 'demand' there is on the whole, the more general pressure one can put on the industry for certain ttitles

Theatrical prints were used to make those JC Japanese Extreme Blu-ray true HD editions so the movies have side-titles (burnt-in) and print damage. JC`s catalog needs a complete remaster from the original negatives with the original mono soundtracks and none of this upscale, edited, audio remix BS.

[Mikezilla3k]

Anyone know where I could find the original version for First Strike?

[splintersan]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

Anyone know where I could find the original version for First Strike?

The HK version? With all the original languages? I think the only way to get that is on DVD, no bluray of it exists. I think you can still find the HK DVD but I could be wrong on this.

[Mikezilla3k]

Originally Posted by splintersan

The HK version? With all the original languages? I think the only way to get that is on DVD, no bluray of it exists. I think you can still find the HK DVD but I could be wrong on this.

The best that I could find was this: https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB%E3%8 3%BB%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%82%AF% E3%83%88-%E2%80%95-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9A%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%8 3%BB%E3%82%A8%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7% E3%83%B3-2%E6%9E%9A%E7%B5%84-DVD/dp/B000083J02/ref=tmm_dvd_title_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

[splintersan]

Originally Posted by Mikezilla3k

The best that I could find was this:

You can get that version here for much cheaper.

https://www.yesasia.com/us/first-str...0-en/info.html

Unfortunately it's tough to tell what version that is. The amazon.jp listing says it's 193 minutes long which is incorrect. And yesasia doesn't list a length.

[steve_dave]

Only the Japanese DVD for First Strike is the uncut HK version but there are no English subtitles. There is an English dub in Dolby Surround but its an alternate dub without Jackie Chan’s voice.

[Dragon78]

What was cut from the HK version?

[Magic Monkey]

Originally Posted by Dragon78

What was cut from the HK version?

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=1809

[witheygull]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Only the Japanese DVD for First Strike is the uncut HK version but there are no English subtitles. There is an English dub in Dolby Surround but its an alternate dub without Jackie Chan’s voice.

Odd. I've got the Japanese DVD, but the audio options on the disc that has the HK cut are original language Chinese (unsure if it's Mandarin or Cantonese) or Japanese dub. And as you stated, no English subtitles.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by witheygull

Odd. I've got the Japanese DVD, but the audio options on the disc that has the HK cut are original language Chinese (unsure if it's Mandarin or Cantonese) or Japanese dub. And as you stated, no English subtitles.

Doh, you’re right. Cantonese and Japanese audio only. The disc is not English friendly.

[witheygull]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Doh, you’re right. Cantonese and Japanese audio only. The disc is not English friendly.

The best solution I've found to this point is to use the Japanese DVD disc image paired with an English subtitle track available from one of the user-submitted subtitle websites.

[wesslan]

I have the original HK dvd from Funny and that has english subs, just checked it. And the intro is with golden harvest so can't think this is the cut version.

[splintersan]

Originally Posted by wesslan

I have the original HK dvd from Funny and that has english subs, just checked it. And the intro is with golden harvest so can't think this is the cut version.

You can check the run time on it, the cut version is missing close to 20 minutes. Also I think the HK DVD is OOP while you can still buy the Japan DVD

[THRILLHO]

What's the best version Of first strike? An unedited one

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by THRILLHO

What's the best version Of first strike? An unedited one

There isn’t a Blu-ray, there are two hard to find DVD options:

Taiwan release by Funny with English subtitles but is non-anamorphic widescreen and the film is broken into two parts.

Japanese two-disc release by Warner without English subtitles and is also non-anamorphc widescreen.

The Japanese disc has the original Cantonese/Mandarin/English/Russian mixed language dialogue but in stereo surround.

The Taiwan disc has the Mandarin dub only in 5.1 surround.