Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

You're the one who started to offer unsolicited stock advice in this thread, so enjoy the unsolicited stock advice that you receive in return.

I was not giving stock advice. I don't listen to my own stock advice that is why I have a professional decide for me and manage my portfolio

I just pointed out what he said was completely ludicrous. I don't know if Tesla is Over valued or not and don't particularly care but if there is a 10:1 stock split it won't change if it is overvalued or not.


that is just a fact

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/01/072501.asp

[Steedeel]

I put my money into stock cubes. Any profits are just gravy!

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I don't listen to my own stock advice that is why I have a professional decide for me and manage my portfolio

We have professional help (two firms) with some of our investments but the spouse does quite well for herself. Normally we do not do short trades but she did a couple in recent months that paid for all my Zappiti purchases and a fair amount toward the HDD's.

[JohnAV]

Box Office: ‘Doctor Strange 2’ Flies to Stunning $185M Opening, $450M Globally - Hollywood Reporter 5/8

The Marvel pic scored one of the top launches of all time as the summer 2022 box office kicks off in high spirits.

Box Office: ‘Doctor Strange 2’ Flies to $36M in Thursday Previews | THR News - YouTube

Summer is off to a sizzling start at the box office.

Marvel Studios and Disney’s Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, starring Benedict Cumberbatch, grossed $185 million in its debut to land one of the biggest openings of all time domestically — and the second best of the pandemic era — after starting off with an enormous $90 million Friday.

Director Sam Raimi’s movie landed the 11th biggest launch in history and the 7th biggest opening for any Marvel Cinematic title behind Avengers: Age of Ultron ($191.3 million), Black Panther ($202 million), The Avengers ($207.3 million), Avengers: Infinity War ($257.7 million), Spider-Man: No Way Home ($260.1 million) and Avengers: Endgame ($357.1 million), not adjusted for inflation. The latter three top the entire list.

And Doctor Strange 2 is already the second-biggest domestic release of 2022 behind The Batman, which has grossed $369.1 million to date.

Overseas, Marvel’s latest tentpole opened to an equally impressive $265 million for an early global total of $450 million. And, when comparing like-by-like territories, it ranks No. 6 on the list of all-time Hollywood worldwide launches and No. 4 among MCU opening weekends, according to Comscore.

The pic opened No. 1 in all major markets overseas, where COVID-19 restrictions have lifted in recent weeks across a raft of key territories, including South Korea. The movie opened to a huge $30 million in that country to land the No. 6 debut of all-time for a Hollywood title. Asian markets such as South Korea and Japan are gaining more importance now that many films, including Doctor Strange 2, aren’t getting a berth in China.

The sequel’s performance is a huge victory for Hollywood and theater owners as the 2022 box office season officially kicks off. After more than two years of fits and starts due to COVID-19, studios are finally ready to release a parade of delayed tentpoles.

Friday’s haul of $90 million for Doctor Strange 2 — which included $36 million in Thursday previews — was the seventh biggest opening day of all time and gives the Marvel Cinematic Universe five of the top 10 opening days ever. It was also more than the entire opening weekends of 10 MCU titles, including the first Doctor Strange, which opened to $85.1 million in 2016, not adjusted for inflation.

Doctor Strange 2 is playing in 4,545 theaters, the widest location count of the pandemic era and the fifth-biggest of all time, another sign that the movie business is emerging from the pandemic. While overall attendance is still down compared to “normal” times, moviegoer confidence is at an all-time high.

Another draw: Imax and other cinema operators heavily promoted the fact that the first teaser trailer for James Cameron’s sequel Avatar: The Way of Water is premiering exclusively in theaters before Doctor Strange 2.

Raimi’s generally well-reviewed superhero pic earned a B+ CinemaScore in the U.S., and is being fueled by moviegoers under the age of 34 (74 percent), including 57 percent between ages 18 and 34and 15 percent between ages 10 and 17. Males made up 59 percent of all ticket buyers.

Doctor Strange 2 did huge business in Imax and other premium large-format screens, or 36 percent. Imax’s global haul alone was $33 million, a May record. (Raimi used Imax digital cameras to shoot the film.)

After the first Doctor Strange, Cumberbatch’s character gained even more visibility when he appeared in Avengers: Infinity War and, much more recently, Sony and Marvel’s $1.9 billion blockbuster Spider-Man: No Way Home, which grossed a near-record $122 million on its first Friday (including $50 million in previews) on its way to a $260.1 million domestic debut.

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness picks up where No Way Home left off, with Stephen Strange coming to the assistance of a young girl named America Chavez (Xochitl Gomez) who can jump across various universes. Now, however, a demonic force is trying to steal her powers.

Part sentimental, part horror, part comedy and always action-packed, the adventure that ensues sees the quirky superhero face-off with the Scarlet Witch (Elizabeth Olsen), meet up with an old flame (Rachel McAdams), enlist the aid of a former sidekick who has now transformed into the Sorcerer Supreme (Benedict Wong) and encounters Mordo (Chiwetel Ejiofor). There are also key cameos regarding other MCU properties, but readers won’t find any spoilers here.

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is rated PG-13, as is The Batman.

May 7, 7:55 a.m. Updated with Friday grosses and revised estimates.
May 8, 8:40 a.m. Updated with revised weekend estimates.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

The Marvel pic scored one of the top launches of all time as the summer 2022 box office kicks off in high spirits.

No need to look for this one on Disney+ for the next several weeks.

[unberechenbar]

I bought/preordered these this week:


Really looking forward to seeing The Martian.

[bhampton]

Recently watched the Martian. Great stuff.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

I bought/preordered these this week:


Really looking forward to seeing The Martian.

Loved the Martian. Great movie and a great 4K disc.

[stonesfan129]

With all of the news surrounding Netflix; I really, really hope companies like Apple and VUDU do not introduce ads into streams. I don't see Apple going away any time soon, but this is part of the reason I am so hesitant to move away from Blu-ray and into purchasing streams. How do you know that 5 years from now the company won't just go bust and all your stuff is gone except what was DMA-eligible and carried over into some other compatible service? I thought about going the Plex route also because larger HDDs are becoming more affordable (Best Buy offers a 16tb Easystore for ~$300, which is about what I paid for an 8tb maybe 3 or 4 years ago). The problem is that it's time-consuming and as you gather more and more content, you have to buy more storage space, and I don't want to run a home datacenter. I will probably stick with discs for the foreseeable future. I doubt they would start putting ads on discs other than the trailers and other things you get at the beginning. For streaming, I'd rather use free services like Tubi. You get ads but at least you're not paying for anything.

[bhampton]

100% Agree.

I did the home media server and I still have all the stuff so maybe I'll get back to it.

These days though.... the disc comes in the mail and goes right in the player.

I don't think there's any conflict between disc and digital apart from what we imagine. Buy the disc and get the digital free.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by stonesfan129

With all of the news surrounding Netflix; I really, really hope companies like Apple and VUDU do not introduce ads into streams. I don't see Apple going away any time soon, but this is part of the reason I am so hesitant to move away from Blu-ray and into purchasing streams. How do you know that 5 years from now the company won't just go bust and all your stuff is gone except what was DMA-eligible and carried over into some other compatible service? I thought about going the Plex route also because larger HDDs are becoming more affordable (Best Buy offers a 16tb Easystore for ~$300, which is about what I paid for an 8tb maybe 3 or 4 years ago). The problem is that it's time-consuming and as you gather more and more content, you have to buy more storage space, and I don't want to run a home datacenter. I will probably stick with discs for the foreseeable future. I doubt they would start putting ads on discs other than the trailers and other things you get at the beginning. For streaming, I'd rather use free services like Tubi. You get ads but at least you're not paying for anything.

Ads are going to be much more common in the next few years. We have Peacock, Amazon and Hulu (you guys in the U.S anyway) and I fully expect Netflix to offer a ad supported tier next year. Disney have already confirmed they will.
If you are digital and a Disney/Marvel fan, it doesn’t seem worth collecting digital when you get the latest films on the streaming service in 4K with Atmos in some cases.

I guess I just don’t see the value in collecting digital. Disc is better quality and subscription is way better value than a single digital film.

Digital ownership seems a bit pointless.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I guess I just don’t see the value in collecting digital. Disc is better quality and subscription is way better value than a single digital film.

Digital ownership seems a bit pointless.

Digital "ownership" offers three benefits in my opinion:

A digital copy can act as a back-up copy should a disc fail for some reason. It takes time to replace a disc and while waiting for a replacement to arrive I can still watch the movie.

I can access my collection from nearly anywhere making it very convenient when I am away from home.

I can share my digital library with family and friends both near and far. This ability to share movies did a lot to combat the cabin fever brought on by the self-isolation that was being practiced during the worst of the pandemic.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Digital "ownership" offers three benefits in my opinion:

A digital copy can act as a back-up copy should a disc fail for some reason. It takes time to replace a disc and while waiting for a replacement to arrive I can still watch the movie.

I can access my collection from nearly anywhere making it very convenient when I am away from home.

I can share my digital library with family and friends both near and far. This ability to share movies did a lot to combat the cabin fever brought on by the self-isolation that was being practiced during the worst of the pandemic.

You always have to spoil it don’t you?

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Digital "ownership" offers three benefits in my opinion:

A digital copy can act as a back-up copy should a disc fail for some reason. It takes time to replace a disc and while waiting for a replacement to arrive I can still watch the movie.

I can access my collection from nearly anywhere making it very convenient when I am away from home.

I can share my digital library with family and friends both near and far. This ability to share movies did a lot to combat the cabin fever brought on by the self-isolation that was being practiced during the worst of the pandemic.

All good reasons. I share my movies with my family, that has to be the best thing about online movies.

(Edit - ok the first one isn't great ... .if I am expecting to have something on disc there is zero chance I'm willing to watch the steaming version ever again.)


Even if someday the quality was the same or higher the ownership thing is a big consideration. Maybe it's bad but people like having stuff. Maybe that's bad but that's life.

I see nice books and I don't think wow this would make a great PDF.

For better or worse nothing beats the reliability of physical media.

=Brian

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by bhampton

All good reasons. I share my movies with my family, that has to be the best thing about online movies.

(Edit - ok the first one isn't great ... .if I am expecting to have something on disc there is zero chance I'm willing to watch the steaming version ever again.)

[Show spoiler]Even if someday the quality was the same or higher the ownership thing is a big consideration. Maybe it's bad but people like having stuff. Maybe that's bad but that's life.

I see nice books and I don't think wow this would make a great PDF.

For better or worse nothing beats the reliability of physical media.

=Brian

In the rare event that a disc fails to play, or that it chokes midway during playback, it is nice to have the ability to finish watching the movie with the digital copy, especially if I have guests over. I would not want to disappoint my guests, or myself, with having to wait until a replacement disc could be delivered in order to finish a movie that we had started to watch.

As to the benefits of owning physical media that you mentioned, I am pretty sure that you don't need to sell me on them.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You always have to spoil it don’t you?

Pretty much.

I'm the rain cloud hovering over your parade; the bird poised above your freshly washed and waxed car.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Pretty much.

I'm the rain cloud hovering over your parade; the bird poised above your freshly washed and waxed car.

If I had chips (fries) you would piss on them?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

If I had chips (fries) you would piss on them?

How vulgar! I would never do such a thing.

I would just lick the salt off of them for you; all that sodium is bad for you. Your well being is my goal.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Ads are going to be much more common in the next few years. We have Peacock, Amazon and Hulu (you guys in the U.S anyway) and I fully expect Netflix to offer a ad supported tier next year. Disney have already confirmed they will.
If you are digital and a Disney/Marvel fan, it doesn’t seem worth collecting digital when you get the latest films on the streaming service in 4K with Atmos in some cases.

I guess I just don’t see the value in collecting digital. Disc is better quality and subscription is way better value than a single digital film.

Digital ownership seems a bit pointless.

Agreed, and that is why I don't purchase digital. Any digital movies I "own" were free from codes or promotions. But I do like redeeming my digital copies so I can share my movies without having to physically share them.

[bhampton]

Good viewpoint,


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/plung...162440262.html

The theatrical window makes for the buzz a movie needs. eliminate it and it doesn't work anymore.
(basically ... no matter how I tried I could not copy and paste the exact quote.)