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Old 09-20-2019, 05:26 PM   #17881
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I wish ol' flyry was around so that I could keep him up to date on the shipping progress of my new TV; he always loved my updates!

It is sitting not 100 miles from me awaiting the appointed day and time of delivery- 5 days from now! Oh well, the anticipation is a big part of the fun.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:31 PM   #17882
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For those that believe streaming (pay TV) has taken over (here):
I would be curious to see what the 5% number grows to if you take live sports out of the equation. That would be a much better indicator of the market that Netflix is in. I would bet a large amount of traditional pay TV viewing hours is done watching sporting events.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:41 PM   #17883
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I wish ol' flyry was around so that I could keep him up to date on the shipping progress of my new TV; he always loved my updates!

It is sitting not 100 miles from me awaiting the appointed day and time of delivery- 5 days from now! Oh well, the anticipation is a big part of the fun.
Hope we are getting pictures?
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:49 PM   #17884
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Hope we are getting pictures?
Be careful what you ask for...
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:44 PM   #17885
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Nah, Iím comfortable enjoying company of woman rather than being one!
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:49 PM   #17886
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Not for me.
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:55 PM   #17887
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Not for me.
So are you saying that Vilya's prediction about your sex change is not valid? We still have no proof that you won't eventually get one (and it's far more plausible than many of the scenarios you've predicted).
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:56 PM   #17888
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Well it seems we have something in common. I build computers as well. I hope that doesn't signify the end times .

I understand you like streaming and I do not have a problem with that. To each his own. But you seem to find personal joy in predicting the end of physical media knowing full well that it would cause unhappiness for the majority of the people on this site. That is what I do not understand. I don't like to view anyone as a mustache-twirling villain, but that's how you come across when you gleefully state that physical media is dead. If that's not the case then perhaps you should think about what you post. If you do take personal pleasure from others unhappiness then perhaps you should seek help.
I don't take personal pleasure in the shrinking Disc Market, but I guess we drew the Line in Disc vs Digital. Like I said back then, it's all Digital. We all love Movies and TV Shows, and how we view them should not determine one is better than the other. I just think that the love of Movies and TV Shows should not be limited to Physical, because it's all Digital now!

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Old Yesterday, 05:18 PM   #17889
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With streaming you can only buy and watch things while they are offered by the studios. They can remove or modify titles at any time.

With cable you can only watch things (or record them) at the exact time they air. If you miss them they are gone forever.
1) Being able to record and they can't take it away from you is a big difference

2) You might be a bit out of date on what Cable (sat/fibre) can do, some offer ways to see things that are missed.
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Old Yesterday, 05:30 PM   #17890
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I spoke a while back of the social media push. I notice today, Facebook released their Portal tv device that allows video calls/chats and the ability to watch shows with family or friends in other homes. I know itís Facebook, but I said ages ago this type of thing will be more prevalent in the future. The significance of this announcement is that Facebook are trying to open up the feature for the big streaming services. I see Netflix watch parties being a big thing. Even our home TVs are not safe from this crap now it seems. Sigh.
and like we said last time , who cares. I pointed out over a decade earlier it was tried with some BD titles. There is nothing new here for companies it is all about eyeball hours. So yes, in this case, FB would love to be able to say Joe is on FB 4h every night and Netflix would love to say Joe is on Netflix 4 h every night. It is a win/win for them. But in the end I don't think people will buy into it (the same way they did not buy into it every time it has been tried. and even if there is enough demand it is irrelevant since you can choose not to use it.
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Old Yesterday, 05:37 PM   #17891
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All it would take is a mega company like Apple or Amazon buying one of the remaining movie studios to wipe out a big chunk of Blu-ray availability. Especially Apple. They would lock down their newly bought films and make them exclusive to Apple+ or whatever ITunes will become. I donít think some realise just how close we are to such a knock out blow. But hey, the koolaid was nice, right?
Anything even remotely close to that would automatically trigger antitrust, anti-monopoly, competition laws.... In almost all countries.
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Old Yesterday, 05:47 PM   #17892
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1) Being able to record and they can't take it away from you is a big difference

2) You might be a bit out of date on what Cable (sat/fibre) can do, some offer ways to see things that are missed.
With streaming, cable, satellite, and broadcast TV the studios have full control over all distribution. They can remove or modify titles at any time.

With physical media anyone can redistribute the discs after they've bought them. Once a title is released on disc and bought by customers the studios can't stop it from being passed around for many decades. All the titles that have ever been released on physical media are still available on the used market.

At worst a physical title will become rare and expensive because it didn't sell well. But the solution to that is obvious: buy more physical media!
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Old Yesterday, 05:59 PM   #17893
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So, if as expected, Apple buy Sony or MGM,that wouldnít leave Blu-ray in a awful position? Think of all the films out there by those studios. Apple (in my opinion) wouldnít be remotely interested in anything but digital distribution.
1) If you want to try to be scary go with Disney or WB. MGM sold most of their catalogue titles back in the mid 80's and has not done much since.

2) if this was 1979 or 1989 maybe it would be more scary, but it is 2019, yes I would love the opportunity to re-buy a lot of great catalogue films on UHD but if that option does not come to pass, I can still watch them on previous formats. I will never be sitting in front of my screen with "there is nothing to watch"
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Old Yesterday, 06:10 PM   #17894
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But thatís not a healthy situation. People are fanatical about superheroes. What happens hen thy fizzle out? Thatís the question I want to see the answer to.

Is it a trend thing that will transition to other genres (like some of MR Pittís film buddies think) or will film fizzle out (Bradís own fears I believe). We wonít find out for a while. However, with Disney looking to tie in theatrical stories with tv episodes. The shape of things to come may be forming.
What happened when sword and sandals films fizzled out, how about westerns, slashers, vampiresÖ.

Unfortunately it is the reality of the film (or TV or any content) industry. X comes out and it is cool and new. X makes a lot of money, everyone starts making X, X feels old and dťjŗ vu, people get bored don't turn out for it any more, someone comes out with Y and it is cool and new Ö.

weren't idiots worried that TVs were going to kill movies a long time ago?
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Old Yesterday, 06:15 PM   #17895
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I love film as much as anyone could. I do not have to be needlessly worried about them in order to prove that love.

There is no objective evidence to indicate that movies are in any peril and thus there is no objective reason for me to be concerned. I do not worry without cause.

I love movies and I am care free about their future.
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Would£ love some of whatever you are drinking. Would do me good.
I think it must be water, Worried about something you can't change in the future is worthless, all you do is ruin your life now. Worried about the monster under your bed is useless since he is not there. Worried that there will be a monster under your bed in the future, that is just nuts.
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Old Yesterday, 06:51 PM   #17896
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I don't expect the same laws to ever be enacted in the United States.
depends what happens.

1) copyright laws might not be applied equally everywhere, but for the most part the world does tend to observe the same laws.

2) legal is one thing but practical is an other. if X is updated to allow people in France/Europe/the rest of the world to trade used content would it look good or real bad if they don't allow the same in an other country?

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I won't be surprised if being able to resell content actually exacerbates things. If digital content is devalued by a "used market" then profits will drop and the studios, publishers, and stores will be even more likely to drop their old titles that aren't selling well anymore. Being able to buy "used" digital content doesn't help if official support is still needed to be able to watch that content.
not only that but "dropping" content can be a way to "skirt" the law.

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No laws require that any company has to continue supporting their unprofitable products forever (nor should they). That's why my stance has been very firm: I don't think that any company should have to continue providing support for any of their products that are no longer selling but I won't buy anything that requires continued support to function either. For the foreseeable future only physical media can fulfill that requirement.
that is not entirely true. In many places there are laws on warranties and parts
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I canít be wrong about something that hasnít happened yet. Itís impossible.
yes you can.

If I say Tomorrow at 3:35 PM EST I will be named King of the Earth you are telling me no one can determine if that is wrong?
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Old Yesterday, 07:43 PM   #17898
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With streaming, cable, satellite, and broadcast TV the studios have full control over all distribution. They can remove or modify titles at any time.

With physical media anyone can redistribute the discs after they've bought them. Once a title is released on disc and bought by customers the studios can't stop it from being passed around for many decades. All the titles that have ever been released on physical media are still available on the used market.

At worst a physical title will become rare and expensive because it didn't sell well. But the solution to that is obvious: buy more physical media!

I agree, nothing beats physical media. Just pointing out a fact or two that you had possibly gotten wrong.

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do you see how the time (upper right corner) says 1:55 do you see on the first row how the first show says Daily Planet followed with a triangle
inside a circle? and that it ended at 1:00 PM? that triangle inside the circle means that even though it already played and ended the person can still pick it on the menu and watch it from the start when it played at 12:00 PM
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Old Yesterday, 07:55 PM   #17899
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I don't take personal pleasure in the shrinking Disc Market, but I guess we drew the Line in Disc vs Digital. Like I said back then, it's all Digital. We all love Movies and TV Shows, and how we view them should not determine one is better than the other. I just think that the love of Movies and TV Shows should not be limited to Physical, because it's all Digital now!
But it does, that is s like saying it is all food and the cheap "shrimp" flavour ramen pack you buy 5 for 1$ (at least that is what they cost in the day) that all you need to do is add water is the same as a lobster dinner with truffle butter.

Don't get me wrong, when I was a student those noodles hit the spot, so I don't have anything against them (except for possibly too much salt but when you are young who cares) but the two meals don't compare.
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