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Old 03-21-2009, 08:05 PM   #21
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Finished subwoofer stand .
The stand without the foam .



There is A 12" X 12" x 6" chunk of foam covered with black felt underneath the stand !







Performance test in A bit with A movie !!

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Old 03-21-2009, 11:05 PM   #22
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Good job Crazy. How high are the legs? Remember that we call the DIY subwoofer stands Grampa as opposed to Gramma. Read my post to see what Grampa stands for.

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Old 03-22-2009, 01:03 AM   #23
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Good job Crazy. How high are the legs? Remember that we call the DIY subwoofer stands Grampa as opposed to Gramma. Read my post to see what Grampa stands for.
The stand raised the sub 7 inches . I also played with settings during PEARL HARBOR & found out that it sounds much better when the LOW PASS is set around 100 instead of 160 , With volume nob on back of sub set at 3/4 volume!
Of course -15 dbl on the receiver for the the attack was something else!
I've read what Grampa stands for the morning you posted it !!!!!
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The stand raised the sub 7 inches . I also played with settings during PEARL HARBOR & found out that it sounds much better when the LOW PASS is set around 100 instead of 160 , With volume nob on back of sub set at 3/4 volume!
Of course -15 dbl on the receiver for the the attack was something else!
I've read what Grampa stands for the morning you posted it !!!!!
What kind of wood did you use for the top and for the legs?
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What kind of wood did you use for the top and for the legs?
The legs are maple & the top is MDF All was scrap from work .(free)
I have the legs on the stand placed directly below the feet of the of the sub so there are no issues with the board itself !!


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Old 03-22-2009, 02:09 AM   #26
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Aren't you glad I did not show you this one?




18” SubTrap (50 Hz) Standard, most Subwoofers: $469
22” SubTrap (30 Hz) Large Subwoofer: $586
http://www.asc-home-theater.com/subtrap.htm


"Once you hear the difference, you’ll never go back. The SubTrap is more than a simple isolation stand. In addition to isolation, it absorbs excess bass and decouples your sub-woofer from room mode. The end result is a unique product available only from ASC. Raise your subwoofer up to its full performance potential. Just slip the ASC-SubTrap underneath your subwoofer and you’ll create the powerful “SubStack.” Instantly improve bass detail, changing “muddy” low frequency playback into a richly detailed picture. Not only does the SubTrap increase bass extension and punch, it also gets rid of "one note bass"."

"By raising the sub off the floor and putting a SubTrap under it, the subwoofer is effectively decoupled from the vertical room mode. Excess bass buildup is reduced and the playback volume of the subwoofer can be cranked up much higher than before."

Reviews:
http://hometheaterhifi.com/volume_12...ap-6-2005.html
http://www.stereophile.com/musicinth...ic/index1.html
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YOU are giving me Ideas Big Daddy !!
That is amazing to me that there is A difference in raising the sub & having A bass trap underneath !
45" or 50" high ~
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YOU are giving me Ideas Big Daddy !!
That is amazing to me that there is A difference in raising the sub & having A bass trap underneath !
45" or 50" high ~
I just decided how to spend your money. Instead of building another sub riser, you need a second subwoofer to supplement your full-size speakers.

You better apply for food stamps now. By the time I am finished spending your money, you will need them.
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Old 03-22-2009, 02:31 AM   #29
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I just decided how to spend your money. Instead of building another sub riser, you need a second subwoofer to supplement your full-size speakers.

You better apply for food stamps now. By the time I am finished spending your money, you will need them.


You are right about the second sub !
Food stamps I don't think so !!
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:42 AM   #30
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Big Daddy ~ I just read both of those reviews you put in you're last post .
I have to thank you for making my world of HT better ! you're sticky's & suggestions have made my system so much better ~ CENTER SPEAKER ~ SUB STAND W/BASS TRAP ~ AMPS !! the biggest help being the stickys most of the time!
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Big Daddy ~ I just read both of those reviews you put in you're last post .
I have to thank you for making my world of HT better ! you're sticky's & suggestions have made my system so much better ~ CENTER SPEAKER ~ SUB STAND W/BASS TRAP ~ AMPS !! the biggest help being the stickys most of the time!
I am glad you are happy. You need to take a rest for a while and enjoy your system. We will worry about your next round of expenditures tomorrow. I am so nice. I gave you 24 hours of break time to enjoy your system.
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I am glad you are happy. You need to take a rest for a while and enjoy your system. We will worry about your next round of expenditures tomorrow. I am so nice. I gave you 24 hours of break time to enjoy your system.
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Do risers primarily help down-firing subs? sorry if this is a repeat question.. I'm just thinking in terms of sub wave output. You'd recalibrate of course, but ultimately how does it help if all else is equal?

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Do risers primarily help down-firing subs? sorry if this is a repeat question.. I'm just thinking in terms of sub wave output. You'd recalibrate of course, but ultimately how does it help if all else is equal?
No, they help both front-firing and down-firing. DobyBlue has one for his Paradigm front-firing sub. Two of my subs are front-firing and two are down-firing.

If you are having trouble with your sub in your HT room, risers can help. They make the sound louder, more even and clearer. They are so cheap and without any risk.

If you are a do-it-yourself kind of a person, build one or you can buy Grama risers from Auralex.

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No, they help both front-firing and down-firing. DobyBlue has one for his Paradigm front-firing sub. Two of my subs are front-firing and two are down-firing.

If you are a do-it-yourself kind of a person, build one or you can buy Grama risers from Auralex.
I might build one as a test, for $30 why not! There seems to be plenty of anecdotal support (elsewhere as well as here), I'm just curious what the reasoning / physics of sound behind this would be.... off to research.
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I might build one as a test, for $30 why not! There seems to be plenty of anecdotal support (elsewhere as well as here), I'm just curious what the reasoning / physics of sound behind this would be.... off to research.
Check these sites.

http://www.asc-home-theater.com/subtrap.htm

http://www.auralex.com/sound_isolati...ion_gramma.asp

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SubDude/
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Thanks Papa! This review from home theater hifi is fairly comprehensive and answered some of my questions (and luckily the main ones).
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I might build one as a test, for $30 why not! There seems to be plenty of anecdotal support (elsewhere as well as here), I'm just curious what the reasoning / physics of sound behind this would be.... off to research.
After building my GRAMPA I noticed A difference Slec !
Big Daddy is FULL of good idea's !
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After building my GRAMPA I noticed A difference Slec !
Big Daddy is FULL of good idea's !
Did you mean he is FULL OF IT?

With the Round Great Grampa and longer legs for the cylindrical subwoofers, I noticed a bigger difference. I don't know if it was because it was taller or if it was because I used them on down-firing subwoofers that had very short spikes.
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ROUND GREAT GRAMPA SUBWOOFER RISER'S ! I want to know how you got such perfect circles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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