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Old 10-08-2020, 06:56 PM   #18421
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I have PC4000 and planning to go for dual but space wise can't do another cylindrical. I can get open box PB 3000 for about $1100 where as PB4000 costs about $2K. General advice is to go with same subs but wanted opinions if having different models cause any serious issues with performance.
While this isn't SVS specific, I have 2 x PSA XV15se in my main setup, and an old MFW-15 that is being powered by a Crown XLS1500, which obviously isn't calibrated for that sub (the MFW plate amp died). The PSAs are down firing, and the MFW is front firing. The PSAs are stacked, and the MFW sits about a foot apart from them, and all are behind my front stage. I was still able to squeeze out the typical +6 db by tweaking the distance for the MFW, which was different from what my processor autosetup set it to. If your processor/AVR has that level of adjustment capability (e.g., separate distance adjustment for each sub), I think it'd be worth a try. At the very least if it doesn't work out you have that very generous return policy, albeit the small hassle of packing everything back up and sending it back.

For reference, I setup my SPL meter at the main listening position, turned on the sub test tone in my processor, then went through the sub distance trim in .5 step increments until I found the optimal one. If I recall correctly, it was +8 feet more than what the autosetup set it to.

Disclaimer: Note that I'm just speaking from experience. Maybe I'm way off base and someone who knows more can say I'm nuts and tell you for sure if it'll work or not.
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Old 10-09-2020, 05:58 PM   #18422
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I have PC4000 and planning to go for dual but space wise can't do another cylindrical. I can get open box PB 3000 for about $1100 where as PB4000 costs about $2K. General advice is to go with same subs but wanted opinions if having different models cause any serious issues with performance.
It really depends on placement. It is not advisable to have a different sub in each front corner of the room for example, but then again, the home theater police are not going to knock on your door and confiscate your equipment. Where would they be placed?

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Old 10-11-2020, 01:57 PM   #18423
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It really depends on placement. It is not advisable to have a different sub in each front corner of the room for example, but then again, the home theater police are not going to knock on your door and confiscate your equipment. Where would they be placed?
Ha ha. I don't mean like that, just wanted to make sure using diff. subs will not compromise the bass response and makes it harder for calibration.
PC4000 placed left rear side, new one will be placed next to front right speaker.
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Old 10-11-2020, 03:24 PM   #18424
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Ha ha. I don't mean like that, just wanted to make sure using diff. subs will not compromise the bass response and makes it harder for calibration.
PC4000 placed left rear side, new one will be placed next to front right speaker.
That would be the way to go then. You might have to play with the gain as well as phase to get them hitting at the same time and at the right volume. I would put the stronger of the two up front, but I am sure you already figured that one out. In these sort of setups, I usually have the gain set just a little higher on the one up front, but that is personal preference.
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:37 AM   #18425
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Looking to pull the trigger on dual PB-3000 subwoofers.
Just waiting for any sales that might pop up.
Columbus Day or BF maybe?
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Old 10-12-2020, 04:46 PM   #18426
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Looking to pull the trigger on dual PB-3000 subwoofers.
Just waiting for any sales that might pop up.
Columbus Day or BF maybe?
SVS briefly had PB3K for about 1K during labor day sale. They sold out quickly, regret not picking one.
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Old 12-22-2020, 03:58 PM   #18427
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Still rocking my SB-13's
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Old 01-01-2021, 11:45 PM   #18428
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gave into sb-2000 pro today! tons of features. sounds killer!!!!! phone app is awesome
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Old 01-05-2021, 02:21 AM   #18429
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nevermind

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Old 01-05-2021, 08:59 AM   #18430
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Hello guys, I have Marantz sr7013 and klipsch rw12 and plan to upgrade to svs sb3000. In music as far as I read I will have big difference, faster transitions, bigger impact etc but in movies will I have better bass quality and quantity? I know rw12 is ported and the advantages of ported but bcs 1) is old enough my klipsch and 2) the quality of svs generally what do you say? . Have someone test them and know.
I'm from Greece and don't have the opportunity to test in my home. My kitchen+living room is 45m2. Don't tell me about pb, I don't have the space.
I will not listen in high volumes often. Due to neighbors above me and next to me
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Old 01-06-2021, 10:17 PM   #18431
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I'm still very amazed with the dual PB1000s I picked up last summer for my 2nd room/mancave. I normally only run one of them when I'm gaming, and just now I popped in Blade Runner 2049, sat back, and as the opening bass sweep started I was reminded how much I love these subs. Then I realized I only had one PB1000 active after having turned one of them off from last night's gaming session. It "felt" like both were active!

I run 3 x 15" subs in my main setup (2 PSA XV15se and a good o'l MFW-15), but since getting the dual PB1000s, I have no quarrels moving to the mancave when I don't want to watch in the main room. SVS !
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Old 01-08-2021, 01:28 AM   #18432
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Hi all! Just wanted to say hello. Got my PB-2000 Pro over Christmas from the Outlet. Before that I had an old JBL PB10 10 sub from the 90s. Needless to say with my new LG CX and Panasonic UB 820 4K blu ray player - Holy Shizzles!

Now I know what a real sub should sound/feel like. Already contemplating my annual upgrades- hopefully making it up to a 16 Ultra one day
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:18 AM   #18433
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Picked up 2 SB-2000's for the Black Friday pricing before they were gone for good. The bass is absolutely mind blowing, feels like I have a bass shaker attached to my couch.

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Old 01-27-2021, 03:58 PM   #18434
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Picked up 2 SB-2000's for the Black Friday pricing before they were gone for good. The bass is absolutely mind blowing, feels like I have a bass shaker attached to my couch.

You're getting that kind of output from two small sealed subs?
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Old 01-27-2021, 04:10 PM   #18435
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You're getting that kind of output from two small sealed subs?
Look like they're seated pretty close so not surprising.
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:44 PM   #18436
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Picked up 2 SB-2000's for the Black Friday pricing before they were gone for good. The bass is absolutely mind blowing, feels like I have a bass shaker attached to my couch.

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You're getting that kind of output from two small sealed subs?
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Look like they're seated pretty close so not surprising.
The dual PB1000s I have in my mancave are spaced apart on opposite corners, and I'm equally floored by their output. If I didn't know they were 10" subs beforehand, it would take a detailed listen on a soundtrack I'm very familiar with to realize their limitations.
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Old 01-27-2021, 07:13 PM   #18437
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You're getting that kind of output from two small sealed subs?
Yes! This all started with 1 SB-1000, I started with that and quickly replaced it with 1 SB-2000 (double the power and sale price was the same), 2 just made sense so I ordered another one. I was and still am amazed at the output of these sealed subs. The 20hz-30hz output is incredible, I have heard bass extention and output that I have not heard before. I had a Velodyne VA1215XII 12" with 15" passive radiator before these, it went low but not like these 2 together.

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The dual PB1000s I have in my mancave are spaced apart on opposite corners, and I'm equally floored by their output. If I didn't know they were 10" subs beforehand, it would take a detailed listen on a soundtrack I'm very familiar with to realize their limitations.
Same here, I have been firing up my favorite LFE-heavy movies and have just been smiling constantly.
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Old 01-27-2021, 08:27 PM   #18438
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Same here, I have been firing up my favorite LFE-heavy movies and have just been smiling constantly.
And that's all that matters right there.

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The dual PB1000s I have in my mancave are spaced apart on opposite corners, and I'm equally floored by their output. If I didn't know they were 10" subs beforehand, it would take a detailed listen on a soundtrack I'm very familiar with to realize their limitations.
Just wanted to qualify my comment above that my dual PB1000 experience is within the capabilities of their application, which is in a closed 10 x 13 room. I wouldn't expect them to perform at the same level in my main room which is larger and open to one side to the rest of the house, in which case I'm running 3 x 15" subs.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:26 PM   #18439
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Just seen a local guy has a used SB 16 Ultra for sale for 1,750

Quite tempted as I've been thinking about one but its still a lot of coin for a used sub.
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I ended up buying a new PB-3000
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