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Old 01-28-2013, 01:46 AM   #41
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That was me. I was looking at their amps and after your suggested this and I figure the closest comparison to the TGA-7400 would be 7 XLS2500 at $600 each. That's $4200, $1200 more than what I can get the sunfire for. Plus, it's one amp versus 7. I know much of the home theater amp world is extremely overpriced but I think in this case the sunfire is the way to go. No?
The XLS2500 is rated 440 watts stereo into 8 ohms, the 2000 still best the Sunfire with 375 into .8 ohms ....if you went with ,my recommendation, of the XLS 2000 with 5 bridged into mono...the Sunfire doesn't come close. With 375 watts stereo with the xls2000 with 5 amps...that's 10 channels!!!!! That blows the Sunfire away and Crown isn't going out of business anytime soon. If you want the single chassis of the Sunfire, more power to you, but I would prefer the stability of another company (one that's still putting out new product).

Just a insider word that I got at Axpona, Sunfire is not the company that it used to be.....I learned this during the cherry and BB demos, I asked some pointed questions and received some honest answers. I have nothing to gain I'm just giving my opinion. Pm me if you would like to hear further, as I'm not privileged to share my info publicly.

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Old 01-28-2013, 02:18 AM   #42
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The XLS2500 is rated 440 watts stereo into 8 ohms, the 2000 still best the Sunfire with 375 into .8 ohms ....if you went with ,my recommendation, of the XLS 2000 with 5 bridged into mono...the Sunfire doesn't come close. With 375 watts stereo with the xls2000 with 5 amps...that's 10 channels!!!!! That blows the Sunfire away and Crown isn't going out of business anytime soon. If you want the single chassis of the Sunfire, more power to you, but I would prefer the stability of another company (one that's still putting out new product).

Just a insider word that I got at Axpona, Sunfire is not the company that it used to be.....I learned this during the cherry and BB demos, I asked some pointed questions and received some honest answers. I have nothing to gain I'm just giving my opinion. Pm me if you would like to hear further, as I'm not privileged to share my info publicly.
The sunfire is actually 400 into 8ohms. Anyway, that aside, how can I connect so many amps with limited outlets? Shoot me a PM regarding Sunfire, I'm on my phone and for some reason can't select the PM option.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:52 AM   #43
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Man this thread has me torn!!!!!!!!! I'm only going to have 2 ch for a while so I may test out one of these amps. Anyone seen the crowns on sale? Hate to pay retail on anything.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:14 AM   #44
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Xls-2500 is $489 on amazon. My finger is hovering over the buy now button.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:16 AM   #45
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Xls-2500 is $489 on amazon. My finger is hovering over the buy now button.
That's a great price for a 2500!!!
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:17 AM   #46
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The sunfire is actually 400 into 8ohms. Anyway, that aside, how can I connect so many amps with limited outlets? Shoot me a PM regarding Sunfire, I'm on my phone and for some reason can't select the PM option.
Oh, I thought it was 300, my bad
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Oh, I thought it was 300, my bad
Well it matters not. I pulled the trigger, $514 after shipping at taxes. Lets see how this works out.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:28 AM   #48
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Question, what kind of connection does the amp accept? I'll be using spades?
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:11 PM   #49
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How many channels do theaters usually have?
Depends on the theater, usually 5.1 (in a larger array of rears). Some theaters are now equiped with up to 13.1 channels.
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Question, what kind of connection does the amp accept? I'll be using spades?
It will accept spades - that's what a lot of people like about the Crown - it has pro and regular speaker connections on it (Neutrik and 5 way binding post). It also has unbalanced RCA connectors so no special wires to buy for connection to your pre-amp.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:21 PM   #51
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It will accept spades - that's what a lot of people like about the Crown - it has pro and regular speaker connections on it (Neutrik and 5 way binding post). It also has unbalanced RCA connectors so no special wires to buy for connection to your pre-amp.
I was skeptical about this at first but I have to admit, I'm really excited.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:13 PM   #52
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I'm using the Cary Audio SA-200.2 for my hi-end audio system and I plan to use the 200.2 for FL/FR in several years when I can upgrade my HT system.

I'll gladly entertain a face-off with any of the "budget" pro power amps in a 2-channel system (music). If the Cary doesn't wipe the floor with any of these amps then I'll choke down a nice plate of crow.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:37 PM   #53
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I came across this( http://www.matrixhifi.com/ENG_contenedor_ppec.htm ), in a AVSforum thread.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:15 PM   #54
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i would like to participate in one of those events!
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:20 PM   #55
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Im also dead set on buying the Crown xls line of pro amps for my speakers. I was also looking at the XPA-1s but if the pro amps are as good as people say they are....then by all means! Also the xpa 1 ONLY is 500 watts into 8 ohms where the xls2500 is up to 2000 watts i believe bridged. One xls2500 for each tower should be more than enough power considering musical peaks can require as much as 3-6 dbs more than the continuous level. In others words, i dont think the Crown XLS 2500 pro amp would ever run out of steam!
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Im also dead set on buying the Crown xls line of pro amps for my speakers. I was also looking at the XPA-1s but if the pro amps are as good as people say they are....then by all means! Also the xpa 1 ONLY is 500 watts into 8 ohms where the xls2500 is up to 2000 watts i believe bridged. One xls2500 for each tower should be more than enough power considering musical peaks can require as much as 3-6 dbs more than the continuous level. In others words, i dont think the Crown XLS 2500 pro amp would ever run out of steam!
Hell my 1500 has yet to run out of steam on me, and that's not bridged, 300 watts per channel.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:27 PM   #57
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Im also dead set on buying the Crown xls line of pro amps for my speakers. I was also looking at the XPA-1s but if the pro amps are as good as people say they are....then by all means! Also the xpa 1 ONLY is 500 watts into 8 ohms where the xls2500 is up to 2000 watts i believe bridged. One xls2500 for each tower should be more than enough power considering musical peaks can require as much as 3-6 dbs more than the continuous level. In others words, i dont think the Crown XLS 2500 pro amp would ever run out of steam!
Pro amps have been used for ages from musicians to DJ's that might tell you something .
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:40 PM   #58
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I'm reading that some receivers/pre-amps pre-outs have trouble powering the Crown XLS. Is this somehting I should be worried about? I'm using a Pioneer SC-05.
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I'm using the Cary Audio SA-200.2 for my hi-end audio system and I plan to use the 200.2 for FL/FR in several years when I can upgrade my HT system.

I'll gladly entertain a face-off with any of the "budget" pro power amps in a 2-channel system (music). If the Cary doesn't wipe the floor with any of these amps then I'll choke down a nice plate of crow.
You might be very surprised. Pro amps are designed for instant power demands with headroom you wouldn't believe. I think the main difference is that pro gear is designed to be neutral as most boutique amps have a designed sound signature to them, which may, in many cases be what you perceive as better quality. But it actually isn't. I've used pro gear for years in live sound and studio work. Originally was using a vintage Adcom but soon discovered it's limitations compared to pro amps. I guess I could describe it as lazy compared to the Behringer. people also often associate weight with quality which is another misconception as they are total opposites in the way they work.

If you can afford to try one out (with a 30 day trial type deal) do so with an open mind.
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Hell my 1500 has yet to run out of steam on me, and that's not bridged, 300 watts per channel.
i have 50 watts per channel on my Naim and it has yet to run out of steam.
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