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Old 01-25-2009, 12:03 AM   #1
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For future reference, and to avoid any misunderstandings... Do not, discuss the removal of protected BD files in this or any other forum on Blu-ray.com. This site is for the discussion of using this media in its intended format (i.e Blu-ray disc). Discussions that try to circumvent the normal use of the Commercial BD format will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts with warnings and or bannings being given. I will personally close all threads (if another mod doesn't see it first) that indicate this type of activity! This warning is for all users of this site.

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Old 01-25-2009, 12:09 AM   #2
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For future reference, and to avoid any misunderstandings... Do not, discuss the removal of protected BD files in this or any other forum on Blu-ray.com. This site is for the discussion of using this media in its intended format (i.e Blu-ray disc). Discussions that try to circumvent the normal use of the Commercial BD format will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts with warnings and or bannings being given. I will personally close all threads (if another mod doesn't see it first) that indicate this type of activity! This warning is for all users of this site.

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Old 01-25-2009, 12:19 AM   #3
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Thanks prerich!
 
Old 01-26-2009, 10:58 PM   #4
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For future reference, and to avoid any misunderstandings... Do not, discuss the removal of protected BD files in this or any other forum on Blu-ray.com. This site is for the discussion of using this media in its intended format (i.e Blu-ray disc). Discussions that try to circumvent the normal use of the Commercial BD format will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts with warnings and or bannings being given. I will personally close all threads (if another mod doesn't see it first) that indicate this type of activity! This warning is for all users of this site.

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Is it possible to make this a sticky at the main forum level?? i.e at the main screen as opposed to just on this sub forum otherwise i can forsee that the mods may be busy -especially as number of ripping questions seems to be on the rise
 
Old 01-27-2009, 07:24 PM   #5
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what are we talking about I'm clueless
 
Old 01-27-2009, 07:28 PM   #6
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what are we talking about I'm clueless
Any sort of trying to get a movie from a bd disk to a hard drive or some sort of hard disk...
 
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Is it possible to make this a sticky at the main forum level?? i.e at the main screen as opposed to just on this sub forum otherwise i can forsee that the mods may be busy -especially as number of ripping questions seems to be on the rise
yeah ive noticed that too people talking about that and other stuff .... good warning
 
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Any sort of trying to get a movie from a bd disk to a hard drive or some sort of hard disk...
Y in GODS name would anyone want to do that thats y they came out with digital tranfers. isn't it?
 
Old 02-02-2009, 02:04 PM   #9
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I wouldnt discuss this anyway..

takes freaking 20 hours when I tried it.. Dont have patience like that

Buy The Originals sure as hell worth it..
 
Old 02-28-2009, 04:08 PM   #10
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doing the stuff like this is just investing the money in soaps to drop
 
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For future reference, and to avoid any misunderstandings... Do not, discuss the removal of protected BD files in this or any other forum on Blu-ray.com. This site is for the discussion of using this media in its intended format (i.e Blu-ray disc). Discussions that try to circumvent the normal use of the Commercial BD format will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts with warnings and or bannings being given. I will personally close all threads (if another mod doesn't see it first) that indicate this type of activity! This warning is for all users of this site.

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Your timing couldn't be more right as I've seen a surge in this type of discussion lately, and was wondering when one of the mods would come by and say something. I'm glad you did, Rich!

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Old 05-04-2009, 02:02 PM   #12
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Oh come now are you really saying that if someone wants to copy a Blu-Ray that the only reasonable explanation is for reasons of piracy?

What about all those people with a Home Theatre PCs who simply want to copy the content onto their HD for the purposes of convenience and to remove the dependancy on a scratchable media and the cleanliness of an optical lense. It makes plenty of sense that people will want to place a copy on their HDD for the purposes of ease, convenience and reliablity. And as far as I am aware there is nothing illegal about it (as long as you do not remove the encryption) and you retain the original media.

To say that it will be "will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts" is tantamount to censorship.

Very disappointed in the capitulation to the mass hysteria of the public media and large corporate organisations. At the end of the day until someone copies a film and distributes/changes it, no law has been broken. Also talking about it is by definition not illegal, and when the subject matter is not in itself condoning or promoting the illegal aspects of how the practice can be miss-used, it seems somewhat over-reactive to sensor the discussions.

But it is your forum so you do as you see fit, just thought I'd share my views.
 
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Oh come now are you really saying that if someone wants to copy a Blu-Ray that the only reasonable explanation is for reasons of piracy?

What about all those people with a Home Theatre PCs who simply want to copy the content onto their HD for the purposes of convenience and to remove the dependancy on a scratchable media and the cleanliness of an optical lense. It makes plenty of sense that people will want to place a copy on their HDD for the purposes of ease, convenience and reliablity. And as far as I am aware there is nothing illegal about it (as long as you do not remove the encryption) and you retain the original media.

To say that it will be "will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts" is tantamount to censorship.

Very disappointed in the capitulation to the mass hysteria of the public media and large corporate organisations. At the end of the day until someone copies a film and distributes/changes it, no law has been broken. Also talking about it is by definition not illegal, and when the subject matter is not in itself condoning or promoting the illegal aspects of how the practice can be miss-used, it seems somewhat over-reactive to sensor the discussions.

But it is your forum so you do as you see fit, just thought I'd share my views.
That's why we moderate these forums - mods "censor" undesireable content on these forums. By definition now - any attempt to decrypt an encrypted media file - can be viewed as a piracy attempt - I work in IT and that's the way its currently viewed. As a moderator I will continue to censor discussions - thats my job. There are many other forums that will discuss those things. They are not allowed on this forum. Case closed.

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For future reference, and to avoid any misunderstandings... Do not, discuss the removal of protected BD files in this or any other forum on Blu-ray.com. This site is for the discussion of using this media in its intended format (i.e Blu-ray disc). Discussions that try to circumvent the normal use of the Commercial BD format will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts with warnings and or bannings being given. I will personally close all threads (if another mod doesn't see it first) that indicate this type of activity! This warning is for all users of this site.

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Oh come now are you really saying that if someone wants to copy a Blu-Ray that the only reasonable explanation is for reasons of piracy?

What about all those people with a Home Theatre PCs who simply want to copy the content onto their HD for the purposes of convenience and to remove the dependancy on a scratchable media and the cleanliness of an optical lense. It makes plenty of sense that people will want to place a copy on their HDD for the purposes of ease, convenience and reliablity. And as far as I am aware there is nothing illegal about it (as long as you do not remove the encryption) and you retain the original media.

To say that it will be "will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts" is tantamount to censorship.

Very disappointed in the capitulation to the mass hysteria of the public media and large corporate organisations. At the end of the day until someone copies a film and distributes/changes it, no law has been broken. Also talking about it is by definition not illegal, and when the subject matter is not in itself condoning or promoting the illegal aspects of how the practice can be miss-used, it seems somewhat over-reactive to sensor the discussions.

But it is your forum so you do as you see fit, just thought I'd share my views.
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That's why we moderate these forums - mods "censor" undesireable content on these forums. By definition now - any attempt to decrypt an encrypted media file - can be viewed as a piracy attempt - I work in IT and that's the way its currently viewed. As a moderator I will continue to censor discussions - thats my job. There are many other forums that will discuss those things. They are not allowed on this forum. Case closed.

Prerich
Nuff said....totally agree
 
Old 05-04-2009, 03:25 PM   #16
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Oh come now are you really saying that if someone wants to copy a Blu-Ray that the only reasonable explanation is for reasons of piracy?

What about all those people with a Home Theatre PCs who simply want to copy the content onto their HD for the purposes of convenience and to remove the dependancy on a scratchable media and the cleanliness of an optical lense. It makes plenty of sense that people will want to place a copy on their HDD for the purposes of ease, convenience and reliablity. And as far as I am aware there is nothing illegal about it (as long as you do not remove the encryption) and you retain the original media.

To say that it will be "will be viewed as possible or probable piracy attempts" is tantamount to censorship.

Very disappointed in the capitulation to the mass hysteria of the public media and large corporate organisations. At the end of the day until someone copies a film and distributes/changes it, no law has been broken. Also talking about it is by definition not illegal, and when the subject matter is not in itself condoning or promoting the illegal aspects of how the practice can be miss-used, it seems somewhat over-reactive to sensor the discussions.

But it is your forum so you do as you see fit, just thought I'd share my views.
Yeah, that's just it- it's a privately-owned board. Couple things to keep in mind- this place gets a lot of nice press, insider visits, blu-rays to review, and the like all because of a positive image. If it were allowed to talk about such things (which are still in gray areas of legality, piracy or no) all of that could go away. Seems like it should be pretty easy to understand.
 
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What about all those people with a Home Theatre PCs who simply want to copy the content onto their HD for the purposes of convenience and to remove the dependancy on a scratchable media and the cleanliness of an optical lense.
A full copy which does not get rid of DRM will take up massive disk space. Even a terabyte drive will only hold 20 dual-layer BDs. It's a gray area legally speaking and impractical. Just say no.
 
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About Time.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 03:52 AM   #19
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Have you ever heard of piracy ! This is TABOO around here !!!!!!!!!!

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Old 09-08-2009, 04:05 AM   #20
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Yeah, that's just it- it's a privately-owned board. Couple things to keep in mind- this place gets a lot of nice press, insider visits, blu-rays to review, and the like all because of a positive image. If it were allowed to talk about such things (which are still in gray areas of legality, piracy or no) all of that could go away. Seems like it should be pretty easy to understand.
It's just good policy. In the US anyway, it is illegal to circumvent the copyright protection that exists on Blu-Rays and DVD's. There is the possibility, however slim it may be, that a website that hosts or links information/tutorials/helpful software about how to do it COULD be held legally liable.
 
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