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View Poll Results: Which version of Star Wars Blu-ray will you be purchasing (or not)?
The Complete Star Wars Saga 1,335 72.48%
The Prequel Box Set 20 1.09%
The Original Trilogy Box Set 110 5.97%
Not Purchasing Star Wars Blu-ray 377 20.47%
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:35 PM   #45521
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When I played my Phantom Menace dvd a few months back for my son, my wife thought it was a bootleg because it looked so bad.
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They're so many things wrong with it:

Terrible colour timing

Edge Enhancement turned up to 11

And worst of all around half of the image is missing due to heavy cropping.
There was talk that the last trilogy set released had the new transfer of The Phantom Menace but I haven't seen it in person. There's quite a lot of dirt on the original DVD which always surprised me (Gladiator's DVD had a lot of dirt too).
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:39 PM   #45522
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I was not impressed with TOS-HD. They improved as the seasons progressed but a lot of shots still had a CG look to them.


TNG-HD is a recomposite. If they had to do everything from scratch I don't think it would look near as good.
They had to create a lot in CG to replace elements they couldn't find, or elements that would not hold up in HD (mostly planets).

Take a look at what they did for Unification at the starship breakers yard.

Some of those shots of the Enterprise-D are actually a completely CG recreation of the ship, because some particular elements could not be found for the ship itself.
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:40 PM   #45523
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They're so many things wrong with it:

Terrible colour timing

Edge Enhancement turned up to 11

And worst of all around half of the image is missing due to heavy cropping.
I remember when home theater sites -- who were flown to Skywalker Ranch on a weekend-long press junket to promote the release of the DVD for Phantom Menace -- all came back and raved about it.

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Old 04-22-2014, 04:41 PM   #45524
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There was talk that the last trilogy set released had the new transfer of The Phantom Menace but I haven't seen it in person. There's quite a lot of dirt on the original DVD which always surprised me (Gladiator's DVD had a lot of dirt too).
Are you on about the set that came out last year that came with DVD's?
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:48 PM   #45525
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Are you on about the set that came out last year that came with DVD's?
I think it's this set in the UK, whether they're the same discs that came with the US combo packs (or if TPM is remastered) I'm not sure.
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I remember when IGN and other sites -- who were flown to Skywalker Ranch on a weekend-long press junket to promote the release of the DVD for Phantom Menace -- all came back and raved about it.
Back then it was a great release (and still is, in terms of extras). Of course 10 years later it doesn't hold up. The standards and transfer process are different.

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I think it's this set in the UK, whether they're the same discs that came with the US combo packs (or if TPM is remastered) I'm not sure.
Those have the Blu-ray versions (TPM remastered and teal tinted AotC).

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I remember when IGN and other sites -- who were flown to Skywalker Ranch on a weekend-long press junket to promote the release of the DVD for Phantom Menace -- all raved about it.
Just goes to show that you can't always trust what people are saying online.

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I think it's this set in the UK, whether they're the same discs that came with the US combo packs (or if TPM is remastered) I'm not sure.
The transfers are exactly the same as the original BD's that came out in 2011.

Which means that TPM is still heavily DNR'ed.

Such a waste of a good quality HD master.
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Are you on about the set that came out last year that came with DVD's?
Sorry I was talking about The Phantom Menace DVD and whether it's been upgraded from the original DVD release. Even if it's used the Blu-ray master it will be an improvement!

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Such a waste of a good quality HD master.
It's a huge improvement on the original DVD but I think they went to soft with it. It was filmed with Pro Mist filters they didn't need to add any more!
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Old 04-22-2014, 05:39 PM   #45529
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They had to create a lot in CG to replace elements they couldn't find, or elements that would not hold up in HD (mostly planets).

Very little is CG, except the aforementioned planets. They kept the majority of the matte paintings and model shots, things like the phasers and other "energy" effects were always CG anyway, even back in 1987.

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Some of those shots of the Enterprise-D are actually a completely CG recreation of the ship, because some particular elements could not be found for the ship itself.

Yes, for one or two shots. They can spend a lot of time finessing it and getting it reasonably perfect. Doing it for *every* shot is another story.
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So this thread went from Star Wars to Star Trek
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So this thread went from Star Wars to Star Trek
If JJ Abrams can switch, so can we!
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Sorry I was talking about The Phantom Menace DVD and whether it's been upgraded from the original DVD release. Even if it's used the Blu-ray master it will be an improvement!



It's a huge improvement on the original DVD but I think they went to soft with it. It was filmed with Pro Mist filters they didn't need to add any more!
Don't get me wrong it's a night and day difference between the old DVD transfer, a huge improvement but it would've looked even better if it hadn't been heavily filtered.

The DNR is the only issue that the BD has tbh.

I have a hunch that it would've probably looked just as good as Revenge Of The Sith's transfer if all the detail was left intact.

I'm not sure if the new DVD is the from the same scan as the BD.

There's no hope though for Attack Of The Clones which has also been filtered to look better then it does on the current BD in terms of picture quality.

If I remember correctly it was heavily filtered in post production and it'll forever be stuck like that.

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Old 04-22-2014, 06:12 PM   #45533
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If JJ Abrams can switch, so can we!
You can never have a Star Wars discussion without Star Trek fanboys eventually changing the topic... This is why we can't have nice things.
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This one is still my favorite.

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This one is still my favorite.

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Damn I didn't realise there were so many no's in the films lol.
Yeah, plus the needless one that Lucas added in Jedi.
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Yeah, plus the needless one that Lucas added in Jedi.
I have a feeling (a bad feeling) that this little guy screams NOOOO! when his batteries run out!

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Yeah, plus the needless one that Lucas added in Jedi.
I see your needless and raise you detrimental.

But this is all old news.
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