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#1181 |
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Oct 2017
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Pioneer released BDR-S12J-X, BDR-S12J-BK and a slot-in portable drive BDR-XS07B-UHD.
I think I can dissemble the BDR-XS07B-UHD then put the unit into a PC case to make it internal. It seems to be the first slot-in UHD drive. |
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#1182 |
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It's possible, but you'd have to be sure the case body or whatever bay adapter you are using has a front cover for it, as internal slot-load drives used in PC builds always have a front that is not present on the external versions.
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It's not an MS and Intel thing. AMD is still at intermediate level for PlayReady 3.0 certification of their products and Nvidia already has final product certification because of their SHIELD TV hardware and because they were able to work with Microsoft during the development of the latest version, whereas AMD was crippled due to bad circumstances. The process has been stalled for various reasons, but the most important one is that the PC industry hasn't transitioned to 4K yet, which is still going on. Later this year, the market will be getting high-end 4K HDR laptops with UHD-BD drives, the big PC companies will be offering many 4K HDR monitors, and 4K AIOs with HDR displays are going to be available, so there should be some more movement in getting AMD hardware certified, as their APUs and GPUs will be driving much of the new desktop and laptop hardware. When all is said and done, the BDA still has to approve their own hardware certification, which is a separate process.
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WARNING: All AMDs and Intel LGA115x(x≠1)/LGA20xx/LGA3647 are NOT supportable!
-------------------------------------- 0. 10500-10900 (including K/T/etc.) CPU error - 21207 From #1394, this problem seems to be fixed by the specific Intel ME driver from ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-I on ASRock Z490I (ME FW 1528). From myself, Gigabyte Z490I AORUS ULTRA can be fixed by downgrading BIOS to F4-F6C and only using HDMI port (DP port will fail at HDCP 2.2). But not all can be fixed. For the not resolved MBs, please use i5 10400 only (both Q0 and G1 are OK, Q0 is soldering but consumes 50% more power than G1). Quote:
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All compatible CPUs (7-10th Gen) ‘s native HDMI output are 1.4 which doesn’t support 4K 60Hz and HDR. So if we need 4K 60Hz and HDR, we need to find onboard HDMI 2.0 (all of them are converted by DP) or a certified DP-to-HDMI-2.0 cable. (11th Gen CPU supports native HDMI 2.0 but they’re INCOMPATIBLE CPUs because Intel removed their SGX.) (DO NOT find 11th Gen motherboards unless any of them is confirmed to have SGX and onboard DP to HDMI 2.0 for 10th Gen CPUs.) Now we have the following motherboards for onboard HDMI 2.0. Besides these motherboards, all unlisted 100/200/300/400 series MBs with DisplayPort 1.2a+ + specified DP-to-HDMI2.0 converter/cable should work too. 500 series removed SGX even having a 10th Gen CPU installed! Quote:
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500 series removed SGX even having a 10th Gen CPU installed! By the way, Coffeelake-Modded Z170/Z270 motherboards are NOT playable because the modification messed up Intel ME. If you have such a motherboard (ASRock Fatal1ty Z170/Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac or ASUS Z170-Premium etc.) to play 4K UHD BD, please do not mod it, use official BIOS & Kaby-lake CPU instead. -------------------------------------- 3. Internal optical drive available SFF PC Quote:
4. 9th Gen R0 Stepping CPU issue Do not buy R0 stepping 9th Gen CPU unless you know how to modify/upgrade your motherboard BIOS's Intel ME Firmware to 12.0.47.1524 (for Z370 it's 11.8.65.3590), or any BIOS update including ME FW update released. They cause Advanced Protected Audio/Video Path (GPU) error which makes PowerDVD refuse to play 4K UHD BD. The following motherboards have an official solution for this. Quote:
12.0.31.1434 (ASRock Phantom Z390 Gaming ITX/ac 4.10-4.30) 11.8.60.3561 (Gigabyte Z370N WIFI F11-F13, Supermicro C7Z370-CG-IW 1.2b) are unconfirmed. All R0 CPUs (with iGPU): Quote:
They are not fully supported by motherboard's Intel ME which will make SGX unable to be working properly. -------------------------------------- 5. PowerDVD 14 OEM's Error 3901751298 on Win10 2004-21H1 / Win11 + SGX 2.7+ If this error code happens on PowerDVD's UHDBD 1st initializing, then you can fix it from the following steps: 1. Format C: and fresh install Win10. (Sorry you can't resolve it without fresh installation.) 2. Keep it offline. (You MUST keep it offline. Otherwise Windows will update SGX driver to make PowerDVD unable to install its old SGX PSW, then you have to back to Step 1.) 3. Install PowerDVD, then check your PowerDVD 14 OEM's SGX PSW installer version. (It should be located in C:\Program Files (x86)\Cyberlink\PowerDVD\Common\PSWInstaller\.) Quote:
(Once you successfully passed all steps above, 3901751298 will never happen again until you format C:, even you changed CPU, uninstalled & reinstalled PowerDVD / ME driver / iGPU driver.) (Do not use this method on retail PowerDVD 17-21. They don't have this issue and SGX 1.6 may mess up their installation.) 6. SGX Activation on Win10 2004-21H1 / Win11 + SGX 2.7+: It can't be activated by BIOS SGX Enabled now. You need to: 1. Change BIOS SGX to Software Controlled. 2. Download SGX App, run it as Administrator, activate, restart. After these 2 steps above, feel free to set BIOS SGX to either Enabled or Software Controlled. -------------------------------------- 7. For HP BU40N UHD Drives They are not supported by PowerDVD. [Show spoiler]
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Also a purchase link: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ide_gamut.html |
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#1186 |
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Apr 2019
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Has anyone found a motherboard which they can confirm supports both UHD and 3D blu-ray playback? I have learned the hard way that this is no easy task in 2019. In short, I can't find anything which has working 3D Blu-ray playback while also supporting UHD.
Intel NUCs are out because they use a bridge chip to convert DP to HDMI which breaks "Intel InTru 3D" support. I just built two different z390 ITX systems, ASUS and ASRock, and while both specifically list InTru 3D support, neither works. I am engaged with ASUS support about this already, but ASRock support has not yet replied. Both boards fully support UHD & HDR though. Since I can't trust manufacture specs anymore, I am looking for a board someone can confirm based on actual use. Thanks! |
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#1187 |
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The above comment is another reason why most people go purchase a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player instead of trying to play Blu-ray discs on a Windows PC.
It is too difficult to get both 4K Blu-ray and Blu-ray 3D working from a PC, even for those that have 20 years of experience building PC's. |
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Thanks given by: | HeightOfFolly (04-25-2019) |
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#1188 | |
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Sep 2017
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Otherwise you will need to wait for Ice Lake desktop processors and hope that they will have native HDMI 2.0 with HDR support as predicted as well as "Intel InTru 3D" support for the HDMI 2.0 port. Last edited by usually_quiet; 04-16-2019 at 02:23 AM. |
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#1189 |
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I see the download only version of PowerDVD 19 Ultra has been released. Personally I am going to wait until the full retail box version comes out with a printed manual (or PDF manual on the CD-ROM) and a CD-ROM installation disc.
PowerDVD 19 Ultra plays native 8K video files that one downloads from online. There is no 8K optical disc technology on the market and that might not happen until sometime around the year 2026 (and maybe never). It appears PowerDVD 19 Ultra still only handles HDR10 and no HDR10+ or Dolby Vision HDR support. Therefore standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players are the best way to watch 4K Blu-ray discs since some standalone Blu-ray players play Dolby Vision HDR, and HDR10+ encoded 4K Blu-ray discs. Plus a standalone Blu-ray player is a lot more simpler to use. https://www.cyberlink.com/products/p...res_en_US.html |
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Sep 2017
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Note that the hardware requirements for UHD Blu-ray playback PowerDVD 19 Ultra haven't changed. A Kaby Lake iGPU or Coffee Lake iGPU is still required. Neither HDR10+ nor Dolby Vision HDR are supported by any of the required iGPUs. [Edit] Also, neither HDR10+ nor Dolby Vision HDR are supported by Windows 10. Correction: Dolby Vision is supported by Windows 10, for Netflix and some downloaded content depending on the hardware (Xbox One S and Xbox One X) and video player used. https://www.intel.com/content/dam/su...WhitePaper.pdf Quote:
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Thanks given by: | HDTV1080P (04-26-2019) |
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#1192 | |
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Sep 2017
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I can think of a few reasons why Microsoft never added Blu-ray support to Windows. 1. The EU successfully sued Microsoft over bundling Windows Media Player with Windows on the basis that it was anti-competitive to allow an OS which dominated the market to include media player software at no additional charge. Microsoft paid a very large fine, and as a result of the suit, was forced to remove Windows Media Player from subsequent editions of Windows sold in the EU. 2. Licensing fees and certification. Microsoft would need to pay licensing fees for Blu-ray and have their player software certified by the BDA. 3. Microsoft foresaw that streaming video would become more popular than optical media playback and decided that if they continued in-house development of optical-disc-based media player software, they would only be chasing a diminishing market. Last edited by usually_quiet; 04-30-2019 at 05:53 PM. Reason: typo |
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#1193 | |
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Oct 2017
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But I sold it. So I cannot test whether it supports Blu-ray 3D or not. All the following motherboards have only HDMI 2.0: EVGA H370 Stinger ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-I GIGABYTE Z390 I AORUS PRO WIFI Last edited by MelonGx; 04-30-2019 at 12:26 AM. |
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#1194 |
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Oct 2017
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The first H310 motherboard to support 4K UHD BD HDR playback?
Gigabyte GA-IMB310TN https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-IMB310TN-rev-10 Also, Q370 motherboard GA-IMB370TN https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-IMB370TN-rev-10 Both of them have a BIOS SGX option. |
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#1195 |
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Oct 2017
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HP OEM LG BU40N 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray drive's latest firmware BW42
I don't know whether FW BW42 can fix HP OEM LG BU40N FW BW40's 4K UHD BD playback issue or not but I have no choice. |
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#1196 |
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The following is a link to a user review for the new 2019 PowerDVD 19 Ultra 64-bit retail box version that comes with a CD-ROM disc.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...77&postcount=1 |
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#1197 |
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Sep 2017
USA
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Since my Coffee Lake system doesn't have an HDMI 2.0 port, I bought a Monoprice DisplayPort 1.2a to 4K at 60Hz HDMI Active HDR Adapter #33125 in late 2018 to be able to connect my computer's DP 1.2 port to my HDMI 2.0 monitor at 3840 x 2160 @60Hz.
It took me a while to get the remaining items that I needed to play a UHD Blu-ray disc: a copy of PowerDVD 18 Ultra, a UHD Blu-ray drive, and finally a UHD Blu-ray movie. ...but now that I have everything, I wanted to report the outcome. I can verify that the Monoprice adapter does what it is supposed to do and it works with PowerDVD Ultra 18 for playing UHD Blu-ray. A few times there have been some glitches with HDCP detection and HDMI handshaking, but nothing I can't live with. |
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Awesome OLED displays now offered in high-end Laptop computers. Now if we could get some desktop computer monitors with OLED displays that would be awesome. Also some 24 inch to 32 inch OLED displays for kitchens and small offices would be ideal in the future.
quote "The newest members of Dell's ultrapremium XPS family, unveiled at Computex this week, include a thoroughly overhauled XPS 13 2-in-1 and a new OLED display option for the XPS 15." https://www.pcmag.com/feature/368515...ke-to-2019-xps |
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#1199 |
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Oct 2017
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I confirmed GA-IMB310TN can play 4K discs.
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#1200 |
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Oct 2017
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Hey Guys, I have GIGABYTE Z370N WIFI with i5-8400. I am have been watching HDR content for the past year and a half without any issues with PowerDVD 17.
I upgraded to PowerDVD 18 last year, but when I tried to play any HDR movie audio and video would go out of sync. I ended up returning the product. I just upgraded to PowerDVD 19 thinking there was an issue with PowerDVD 18, but I am having the same issue. I upgraded to latest drivers but still the same. Anyone having similar issues? I am certain I don't have any issues with the hardware setup as I have more than 50 HDR titles and they all play fine with PowerDVD 17. |
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