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Old 09-20-2014, 03:11 PM   #281
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Are there any programs available right now that will let you encode videos in HEVC? I'm really curious to see how efficient it HEVC really is, but I have no such option on my Sony Vegas. I would like to re render some 1080p home videos and see how low the bitrates can go before it looks bad. Also curious to see if it's more cpu hungrier than AVC in the encoding process.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:12 PM   #282
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Are there any programs available right now that will let you encode videos in HEVC? I'm really curious to see how efficient it HEVC really is, but I have no such option on my Sony Vegas. I would like to re render some 1080p home videos and see how low the bitrates can go before it looks bad. Also curious to see if it's more cpu hungrier than AVC in the encoding process.
x265, DivX HEVC, Strongene have all been publicly available for more than a year. The test model has been available much longer.

If you are a beginner, probably the easiest way to test HEVC encoding is x265 via a Handbrake nightly.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:10 AM   #283
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Thanks. I remember trying the Divx a while ago, but the HEVC/.265 option wasn't available yet to encode. I'll look it up or the others as well and give it. I do a bit of video encoding so I'll go with the others first.


I gave the Divx HEVC a try. Max bitrate is 12Mbps and the 1080p HEVC video looks worse than the original 1080p MP4 video at 35Mbps. I'll try one of the other converters.

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Old 09-27-2014, 05:46 PM   #284
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...I find that professionals ( the lead developers and testers involved with bringing it to consumers) almost invariably prefer the term ‘HEVC’ verbally and in writing; whereas, for some reason, most hobbyists and AV blogger/journalist-types enjoy using the term ‘H.265’…..whether out of being uninformed as to the development history and facts or just attempting to impress others with a numerical designation rather than a simple acronym (HEVC).

I mean, if they really desire to be well-informed and equitable as to ‘standards’ organizations, they should also use the designation ‘ISO/IEC 23008-2 MPEG-H Part 2’ where the HEVC standard is also defined, or at least MPEG-H Part 2 but I guess that’s too long to type out; plus, these days with B.T. 2020, the ITU is currently the ‘flavor of the day’ rather than the MPEG (http://mpeg.chiariglione.org/standards/mpeg-h
So, now that we've gotten that ^ designation properly straightened out, in regards to HEVC , for advanced users/readership there’s a new book out…http://www.amazon.com/High-Efficienc.../dp/3319068946

Editors include Vivienne Sze (Assistant Professor at MIT), Madhukar Budagavi (from TI), and Gary Sullivan (longstanding chairman or co-chairman of various video and image coding standardization activities quoted or linked to previously in this HEVC thread).
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Old 09-28-2014, 07:24 PM   #285
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HEVC , for advanced users/readership there’s a new book out…http://www.amazon.com/High-Efficienc.../dp/3319068946...
For those who prefer ebook versions -
http://www.springer.com/engineering/...-3-319-06894-7
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Old 10-01-2014, 12:27 AM   #286
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HEVC Patent Portfolio License announcement…http://www.mpegla.com/main/pages/media.aspx
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HEVC Patent Portfolio License announcement…http://www.mpegla.com/main/pages/media.aspx
from the 1st paragraph..." HEVC is also expected to deliver next generation higher resolution HDTV video by broadcast, streaming, download, and 4K Blu-ray™ for 4K and 8K Ultra High Definition TV."
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Old 10-02-2014, 02:41 PM   #288
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from the 1st paragraph..." HEVC is also expected to deliver next generation higher resolution HDTV video by broadcast, streaming, download, and 4K Blu-ray™ for 4K and 8K Ultra High Definition TV."
It would be interesting to know if the term 4K Blu-ray™ has indeed been trade marked. IIRC, the term Blu-ray has been trade marked for some time now.

Sony, Panasonic, LG, etc. still MIA in regards to MPEG LA HEVC patent portfolio.
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Old 10-02-2014, 05:34 PM   #289
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Well, out of the listed 23 enterprises owning essential HEVC patents, can anyone guess as to which entity (out of the 23) holds the most of them?
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Old 10-03-2014, 02:36 AM   #290
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Sony, Panasonic, LG, etc. still MIA in regards to MPEG LA HEVC patent portfolio.
When VP9 gets 12-bit profiles that might put a bit more steam behind having a single license for HEVC.


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Well, out of the listed 23 enterprises owning essential HEVC patents, can anyone guess as to which entity (out of the 23) holds the most of them?
Based on the list of HEVC patents it would currently be SK Telecom.
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Well then, can anyone guess as to which country slots in as having the most of these portfolio patents?
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:39 PM   #292
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Well then, can anyone guess as to which country slots in as having the most of these portfolio patents?
An Undiscovered Country.

I have no idea, but would guess an EU country, Sweden?

SK Telcom is South Korean so it could be them.
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Old 10-04-2014, 05:00 PM   #293
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South Korea wins the total number prize…by a landslide.
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Old 10-08-2014, 05:51 PM   #294
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Sony, Panasonic, LG, etc. still MIA in regards to MPEG LA HEVC patent portfolio.
You many be right but I don’t recall LG having essential HEVC IP, the others more so.
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When VP9 gets 12-bit profiles that might put a bit more steam behind having a single license for HEVC.
Until then, these companies (Sony, Panny, Microsoft, Qualcomm , Ericsson, MediaTek and one other that I’m blocking on) I believe have already established their own IP licensing programs including cross licensing; therefore, it’s assumed they currently do not desire to participate in the HEVC patent pool.

However, pursuant to their membership in JCT-VC they are obligated to license their HEVC standard-essential patents (SEPs) on fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory terms anyway.
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Old 10-10-2014, 05:47 PM   #295
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4K over-the-air in Baltimore (Home of the Orioles ) …..
http://www.tvtechnology.com/news/008...oadcast/272758
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hey guys
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any release on the specification from this codec to physical dic
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hey guys
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any release on the specification from this codec to physical dic
The final specification for 4K Blu-ray won't be released until next year but the current plan is that it will use HEVC to support 10-bit video with resolutions up to 4K at 60 fps.
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The final specification for 4K Blu-ray won't be released until next year but the current plan is that it will use HEVC to support 10-bit video with resolutions up to 4K at 60 fps.
will that be 4:2:0 like we have now, 4:2:2, or 4:4:4
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will that be 4:2:0 like we have now, 4:2:2, or 4:4:4
It will be 4:2:0.
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will that be 4:2:0 like we have now, 4:2:2, or 4:4:4
I can see it being 4:2:0 because there wont be anything for 8K if they go 4:4:4. Also if they go Rec. 2020 and 4:4:4 8K will have to CIE. 1931 colour space, otherwise it will just be more of the same pixels. Can you go higher that 4:4:4.
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