Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

If I didn't enjoy arguing then this whole thing would be pointless.

Believe me; it WAS pointless. Ask anyone.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Believe me; it WAS pointless. Ask anyone.

If it brings me enjoyment then it's not pointless.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

If it brings me enjoyment then it's not pointless.

This thread, this community, is bigger than us.

[PenguinInfinity]

I doubt that past 1,928 pages of discussion have actually accomplished anything. But plenty of us keep coming back. The only possible explanation is that we're all argumentative stubborn jackasses.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

[Show spoiler]Amazon Women on the Moon - Video Pirates - YouTube

I love that movie! The emoji proves it.

[alchav21]

Hey guys you can chew on this!

https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-cris...missed-220918/

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

If I didn't enjoy arguing then this whole thing would be pointless.

You definitely enjoy arguing, I can confirm that!

And Vilya.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Again, possessing the disc does not convey license. Not one license per disc, not any number of licenses per disc. The purchase of a legitimate disc grants that license and that license has no revocation clause.

By that logic anyone who rents or borrows a disc would not have a license to access the content on the disc and would therefore be committing a crime by watching it.

[gotmule]

For the mystery fans amongst us, I just watched The Dry with Eric Bana and really liked it. Very well executed from a writing, acting, and cinematography standpoint. Nothing to show off a system with, but I am happy as hell I blind bought it.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by gotmule

For the mystery fans amongst us, I just watched The Dry with Eric Bana and really liked it. Very well executed from a writing, acting, and cinematography standpoint. Nothing to show off a system with, but I am happy as hell I blind bought it.

Thank you for not talking about piracy.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I hope I can get Crawl on UHD BD tomorrow.

Today I picked up Rise of Gru and Days of Thunder.

I've gone back to watching discs directly. I also can't stop buying them so I need to take over another wall for shelves.

Looking forward to Crawl too.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

By that logic anyone who rents or borrows a disc would not have a license to access the content on the disc and would therefore be committing a crime by watching it.

Nonsense.

Renting conveys a license, too.

Lending a disc to family and friends is covered by the purchaser's or the renter's license. Public exhibition is about the only thing that you can't do when it comes to playing a disc. Back-ups are for personal use.

Stop trying to revive an argument that goes nowhere before we both get banned. Anthony will revive it this weekend, anyway, as that's the only time that he has to post here. How about we give everyone a rest from our BS at least until then?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hey guys you can chew on this!

https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-cris...missed-220918/

Be quiet until your parole comes through.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

Looking forward to Crawl too.

Crawl is something that I would have to see before buying. A woman trapped in a house with gators doesn't immediately grab me.

Originally Posted by gotmule

For the mystery fans amongst us, I just watched The Dry with Eric Bana and really liked it. Very well executed from a writing, acting, and cinematography standpoint. Nothing to show off a system with, but I am happy as hell I blind bought it.

The Dry looks like it could be juicy, but it's another title that I would have to see first.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Nonsense.

Renting conveys a license, too.

Lending a disc to family and friends is covered by the purchaser's or the renter's license. Public exhibition is about the only thing that you can't do when it comes to playing a disc. Back-ups are for personal use.

Of course it's nonsense. When someone rents or borrows a disc they have access to the content for as along as they possess the disc. When someone purchases a disc they have access to the content for as long as they possess the disc.

Your idea of a permanent license for purchasers is absurd and you clearly pulled it out of thin air. I never thought that you would believe in something so ridiculous.

[Steedeel]

Maybe time to give it a rest now?

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Maybe time to give it a rest now?

What's your stance? Should someone be able to keep a copy after they sell the original disc? Does a purchase give everyone who has ever owned a disc a license to play the content on that disc whether or not they still own it?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

What's your stance? Should someone be able to keep a copy after they sell the original disc? Does a purchase give everyone who has ever owned a disc a license to play the content on that disc whether or not they still own it?

I have never backed up any of my films but I have zero problem with those that do. After all, they haven’t robbed the studios, they have PAID for said copy.

Millions ripped their CDs to MP3 when the Iriver (and later IPod) came out. They then sold the CDS. Same thing.

The only issue I have is with people who pirate films directly without paying a dime. Those that buy a film then sell it after making a copy are not the problem imo.

I mean, who goes through life sticking to the letter of the law?

Film fans who buy discs in the first place can do what they like for me. They are supporting the industry.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Film fans who buy discs in the first place can do what they like for me. They are supporting the industry.

Barely. I suspect the vast majority who buy, rip, and sell are buying used copies. And since they aren't keeping the discs they aren't reducing the number of copies in circulation (which would cause more new copies to be made and sold).

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Crawl is something that I would have to see before buying. A woman trapped in a house with gators doesn't immediately grab me.

I think I bought this on iTunes before buying the Blu Ray and now I'll go looking for the UHD.

In terms of replay value, ... Ive already seen it lots of times.

I tend to say "Shark vs Bikini Girl" is my favorite genre. Maybe I just like monster movies.