Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

People making back-ups and then selling the originals causes there to be less copies sold in the first-place and therefore more likely to be difficult to find when a title goes out of print.

If 10,000 people want a copy of the movie and no one keeps a copy after selling the original then at least 10,000 copies will have to be made and sold. If people are making copies and then selling the originals 10,000 people could easily have a permanent copy using a drastically smaller number of discs.

It's basically the same issue as illegal copies being downloaded off the internet. It's easy to find both illegal copies and discs shortly after every movie is released but many years later after the movie is no longer popular it could be difficult to acquire the movie in any form if there aren't many copies in circulation.

Everything about my stance is all about there being more physical copies of every movie made and sold. If there are thousands of copies in circulation then every movie will remain readily available to everyone regardless of how popular it continues to be.

None of you would buy the used copy anyway. No harm done. Except when it's a limited release. Then the pirate is a dick for snagging it up and not intending to keep it anyway. I've bought and ripped lots of discs that are out of print, that would have gone out of print anyway, even in your world where all the owners of the disc had it new.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

None of you would buy the used copy anyway. No harm done. Except when it's a limited release. Then the pirate is a dick for snagging it up and not intending to keep it anyway. I've bought and ripped lots of discs that are out of print, that would have gone out of print anyway, even in your world where all the owners of the disc had it new.

I wholeheartedly support the used market and frequently buy used discs myself.

A thriving used market is absolutely necessary to ensure that a title remains available after it goes out of print. If people only sold used copies after a title went out of print then most people who would have sold them would instead throw them out. That would cause there to be drastically less used copies in circulation when a title went out of print.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I wholeheartedly support the used market and frequently buy used discs myself.

But not while it's still in print, so, again, no harm done. You buy used out of necessity, I bet.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

But not while it's still in print, so, again, no harm done. You buy used out of necessity, I bet.

You'd lose that bet. I buy plenty of used titles because they are drastically cheaper; whether the title is in print or not is never a factor.

Ideally the number of discs of any movie should match or exceed the number of households who have an interest in watching the movie repeatedly. That ensures that everyone who wants to watch that specific movie will always be able to.

Making copies, piracy, and streaming all prevent this. The used disc market does not.

[unberechenbar]

I buy a good amount of used discs since I care about slipcovers and often the difference in price between a new movie and a used one both with slipcovers is big.

[Steedeel]

I didn’t buy ANY used until I took a chance on ‘The Wizard Of Oz 3D’.

It arrived sealed, therefore discs, case and cover were in perfect condition. It wasn’t available new except on EBay with joke prices.

Paid £15, absolute bargain.

Still buy 95% new, but not against used when a bargain offers itself.

By the way, The Wizard Of Oz looked stunning, 3D and regular version.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

By the way, The Wizard Of Oz looked stunning, 3D and regular version.

Yes, the team that did the restoration did good by that one.

Also have Oz the Great and Powerful 3D but it must be OOP.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Yes, the team that did the restoration did good by that one.

Also have Oz the Great and Powerful 3D but it must be OOP.

Didn’t care for that one. Saw it at cinema (as part of my job) but decided against buying it on disc.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Have Thor: Love and Thunder in my Netflix disc queue. If it is worthy of purchase then will see what folks say about the 3D version if it makes it to the US. It is listed as a post process 3D here.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Didn’t care for that one. Saw it at cinema (as part of my job) but decided against buying it on disc.

It is 3D eye candy more than anything. We have several “bad movies” in our collection but they have a great picture and/or 3D and/or a great sound track so worthy of a purchase.

[Vilya]

My dropping the subject by popular demand really made a difference. Someone else keeps picking it up and running with the ball instead.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Also have Oz the Great and Powerful 3D but it must be OOP.

Used discs are readily available on Amazon for less than $10.

https://www.amazon.com/Oz-the-Great-.../dp/B00C7JG0KG

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It is 3D eye candy more than anything. We have several “bad movies” in our collection but they have a great picture and/or 3D and/or a great sound track so worthy of a purchase.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

I have just gambled on The Flying Swords Of Dragon Gate purely for the supposedly great 3D.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Have Thor: Love and Thunder in my Netflix disc queue. If it is worthy of purchase then will see what folks say about the 3D version if it makes it to the US. It is listed as a post process 3D here.

I'm on the fence with this one, too.

It has been awhile since Disney did a domestic 3D release.

Japan is showing six 3D releases:

and

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Vilya has been arguing

Originally Posted by Vilya

My dropping the subject by popular demand really made a difference. Someone else keeps picking it up and running with the ball instead.

IMHO, we will have disagreements but it is hoped that we here have much more in common than not. I believe we serve readers better when we post about our common interest here. For myself I like to read about members new equipment purchased, titles they liked or disliked, their experience, good or bad, with many aspects of home theater entertainment.

I want to see Blu-ray.com thrive and survive and it can that with ALL our support. I have seen very few collections that match what Vilya has so I know he is doing his part to support this hobby.

[Lee A Stewart]

[Vilya]

^So that's what the new 8K TVs look like!

It's cool that they included a retro VCR.

[Vilya]

It looks like Paramount has goofed up next week's 4K release of

Mars has a peculiar new look:



"Here’s a projection screen photo of the 4K..."

https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/m...ts/092122-1315

Mars is also reportedly blue on the previously released 4K digital version and also on the Australian Imprint blu-ray.

This is what passes for QC anymore. It is just a momentary scene, but still getting the color of Mars right shouldn't have been hard to manage or the WRONG color hard to notice.

The Criterion blu-ray got it right.


Same shot from the Criterion blu-ray.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yeah, I know what you mean.

I have just gambled on The Flying Swords Of Dragon Gate purely for the supposedly great 3D.

It's also an entertaining film so you can't really go wrong.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by russweiss1

It's also an entertaining film so you can't really go wrong.

Good to hear. 👍