Ridley Scott Turns 83: A Personal History and Appreciation

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Starscreamx9

What kind of movies you are on? So that might explain Terminator 2 being not as good as BR.

T2 is okay. The Terminator is superior.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by The Debts

Go with the Director's Cut only on KOH; The differences between the TC and DC are night and day.

Don’t bother! I might’ve grown cynical in my 100th year, but looking at the join date. Most of his posts are negative and complaining. And I’m not saying he a troll, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find him in a cave.

[Starscreamx9]

Originally Posted by The Debts

Go with the Director's Cut only on KOH; The differences between the TC and DC are night and day.

I'll try watching it.

I also need to see the Duelist, but honestly I'd say that Scott visual style in Blade Runner is the best thing he has done at the moment. Not a huge fan of the movie, it's a 7/10 for me.

[Starscreamx9]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

T2 is okay. The Terminator is superior.

I think T2 is a huge improvement, in nearly everything except the pacing where T1 is better

[Starscreamx9]

Originally Posted by The Debts

Go with the Director's Cut only on KOH; The differences between the TC and DC are night and day.

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Don’t bother! I might’ve grown cynical in my 100th year, but looking at the join date. Most of his posts are negative and complaining. And I’m not saying he a troll, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find him in a cave.

Sorry, but not saying anything negative or complaining. Just know that when someone doesn't like something or thinks something has flaws that you don't see (or acknowledge) doesn't mean they're downplaying. Its them giving their opinion. I joined this site today, and that's it.

I stated my opinion and argued why I think like that. No idea how you would think I am trolling.

[s2mikey]

I dont like every film he’s done but he has helmed some of my all-time favorites like Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven(DC only), Alien and Blade Runner. Nothing recent from him though has been all that great, IMO.

Either way, great filmmaker and an important person in the industry.

[s2mikey]

I dont like every film he’s done but he has helmed some of my all-time favorites like Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven(DC only), Alien and Blade Runner. Nothing recent from him though has been all that great, IMO.

Either way, great filmmaker and an important person in the industry.

[tcripe]

Crazy how much he's still working for his age. Still churring out films quite often.

[dallywhitty]

Thank you, Sir Riddles, for delivering unto us the greatest film of all time.

[Himmel]

Happy Birthday Sir Scott a true artist, and a legend. Thanks for creating the best sci-fi universe.

[Darkstream]

So this is a Ridley Scott vs. James Cameron thread?

I think Ridley Scott has more hits as well as more misses than James Cameron, but Scott also has more movies than Cameron, so there's that.

Just looking at their science fiction works...

Regardless of the differences in budget and quality, I would list Cameron's The Terminator along with Scott's Alien and Blade Runner as three of the greatest science fiction films ever made.

But what does it mean when you find you've grown to love Scott's Prometheus, despite its flaws, even more so than Cameron's T2, Aliens, and The Abyss, which are obviously great solid films?

There's just something about Prometheus that makes me keep coming back to it. I wish I could say the same for Alien: Covenant.

Then there's Scott's The Martian, which is certainly a great film, but not one I'm drawn to repeatedly.

As for for Cameron's Avatar... it just doesn't do anything for me.



Here's how I would rank the Ridley Scott and James Cameron sci-fi films together:


1. Alien
2. The Terminator
3. Blade Runner
...
4. Prometheus
5. Aliens
6. T2
7. The Abyss
8. The Martian
...
9. Alien: Covenant
10. Avatar



Outside of their sci-fi films, it should be noted that Scott's Legend (surprised this hasn't been mentioned that much in this thread) and Cameron's True Lies are both great movies, too.

[The Debts]

If we're going to do the Scott vs Cameron thing, then one thing we should all acknowledge is that Scott is way more flexible than Cameron. The former can pretty much do it all whereas Cameron seemingly sticks relatively to the same kind of giant spectacle movie. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Starscreamx9]

Cameron's filmography is far more consistent, he hasn't had any bad or mediocre movies.

Scott has some bad movies, as I said before like Soldier Jane and Exodus.

It can be argued that Scott at his peak has better highs sure, I'd understand that. But I take quality over quantity and JC definitely takes it.

When I watch a Cameron movie, I know it won't be that serious, and I will both appreciate it and enjoy it. I had a lot of fun with True Lies, T2 and Avatar despite it flaws.

I forgot that he directed Gladiator, which is an excellent film and easily on par with Cameron's films (except the first two Terminators in my opinion) but I'd place it above Aliens or Titanic I guess.

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by Starscreamx9

Cameron's filmography is far more consistent, he hasn't had any bad or mediocre movies.

[Starscreamx9]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

https://screenrant.com/james-cameron...n-hate-reason/

I wouldn't consider that a JC movie, or atleast it's like saying Whedon directed JL, which was far below his usual standards.

[spider-neil]

How many directors can lay claim to two genre defining masterpieces?
Alien
Blade Runner

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

How many directors can lay claim to two genre defining masterpieces?
Alien
Blade Runner

I know what you're saying, but there have been others.

John Carpenter gave us Halloween and The Thing.

Stanley Kubrick gave us 2001 and The Shining (although in separate genres), not to mention A Clockwork Orange.

[Starscreamx9]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

I know what you're saying, but there have been others.

John Carpenter gave us Halloween and The Thing.

Stanley Kubrick gave us 2001 and The Shining (although, separate genres), not to mention A Clockwork Orange.

I'll add a few others.

Christopher Nolan: The Dark Knight and Memento.

Quentin Tarantino: Pulp Fiction and Django Unchained.

James Cameron: Terminator 2 and Aliens

Martin Scorsese: Taxi Driver and The Departed

Steven Spielberg: Schindler's List and Jurassic Park.

[Johnzilla2179]

John Ford gave us The Searchers and The Quiet Man, amongst many other classics.

Spielberg have us Jaws and Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Love his work, but Ridley isn’t the only one on his level.

[Starscreamx9]

He's a good director, he does have good movies but since he does not write scripts and he does a lot of movies, he does have a lot of misses.

He is an all time great? I think so. One of my favorites? Absolutely not.