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Old 01-23-2020, 01:01 PM   #112001
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Brady skews everything when it comes to titles. He's been to nine Super Bowls. Favre is 1-1. Warner is 1-1. Wilson is 1-1. Rodgers is 1-0. Brees is 1-0. Are they underachievers? Eli Manning is 2-0. Does that make him better?
Speaking on Rodgers specifically, I'd say the fact that he's never made it back to the Super Bowl is an under-achievement. He's one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game, he's usually in the playoffs, but there's always something or the other (coaching, bad onside kick, etc.) that costs him a shot at the big one. Is it always his fault? Not really, but you could say the same for any of those guys. Wilson's one play away from being 2-0 and costing Brady one of his rings. Ultimately I don't think anyone could've predicted after Rodgers' first Super Bowl that he'd never make it back there for the rest of the decade.
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Old 01-23-2020, 05:36 PM   #112002
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Football Rule Question re Touchdowns

For some defensive penalties, yards are awarded to the offense. If the ball was on the 3 yard line of the defender, and the defense caused a foul that would give the offense 5 yards, would that then give the offense a touchdown??

Probably not, but I just wasn't aware of the NFL general rule that covered that kind of situation.
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Old 01-23-2020, 05:42 PM   #112003
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Half the distance so ball goes to 1.5 yrd line.
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Old 01-23-2020, 07:35 PM   #112004
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Gary Kubiak has been appointed new OC in MIN
Jay Gruden new OC in JAX
Crennel out as DC in HOU
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:49 PM   #112005
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Speaking on Rodgers specifically, I'd say the fact that he's never made it back to the Super Bowl is an under-achievement. He's one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game, he's usually in the playoffs, but there's always something or the other (coaching, bad onside kick, etc.) that costs him a shot at the big one. Is it always his fault? Not really, but you could say the same for any of those guys. Wilson's one play away from being 2-0 and costing Brady one of his rings. Ultimately I don't think anyone could've predicted after Rodgers' first Super Bowl that he'd never make it back there for the rest of the decade.
Drew Brees is kind of like that. He's played great in the playoffs throughout his career, but is only 8-8 in playoff games with only the one Super Bowl. In 7 of 8 playoff losses Brees's teams have lost by a TD or less, so many in fluky, heartbreaking last second fashion.
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Old 01-24-2020, 07:07 AM   #112006
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Antonio Brown turned himself in to police. First sane thing he's done. Maybe it can be his first step to turning it around.
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:37 PM   #112007
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Old 01-24-2020, 04:56 PM   #112008
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New Orleans Saints possibly tried for help cover up Church criminal allegations.

Of all teams....the Saints.
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Old 01-24-2020, 05:07 PM   #112009
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Yeah, the Saints. What a shocker.
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Old 01-24-2020, 05:13 PM   #112010
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Classy speech by Eli. Pretty much underscores his career: a class act all the way.
Hes definitely HoF bound. Well deserved.
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Old 01-24-2020, 05:43 PM   #112011
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New Orleans Saints possibly tried for help cover up Church criminal allegations.

Of all teams....the Saints.
Sounds like something that could end with forcing the owner to sell?
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Old 01-24-2020, 05:57 PM   #112012
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Sounds like something that could end with forcing the owner to sell?
It could happen. This looks really bad.
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Old 01-24-2020, 06:36 PM   #112013
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Sounds like something that could end with forcing the owner to sell?
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It could happen. This looks really bad.
Having to sell the team would be pretty extreme. My guess is once the investigation concludes the owner will have had some lieutenant(s) fall on the sword....or take one for the team.
Then theres possible league punishment. Or whatever 31 other owners decide to do with one of their own.
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Old 01-24-2020, 06:44 PM   #112014
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Saints... lol. Bunch of frauds.
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Old 01-24-2020, 09:14 PM   #112015
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Maybe if the Saints get new ownership, they can try to make a name trade with the Utah Jazz.
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Old 01-24-2020, 09:42 PM   #112016
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Rodgers isn't overrated but I'd say he's under-achieved.
Yes, exactly. One of the greatest QBs on such a mediocre offense. Who knows what his potential could have been this past decade. But we can add the "ifs" to anyone and then you get a fantasy team!


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Rodgers is 1- 3 in Championship games with 6 TDs, 7 INTs, and a 78.0 rating. Doesn't look quite as good next to his impressive regular season stats.
If you're comparing "regular" season vs "playoff" season, that includes more than just championship games. His playoff stats are 11-8 record, 40 TDs, 12 Ints, and 100.0 rating (4th all-time and 2nd among active).


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He's a little overrated. Apologists out there already blaming the defense for this last loss. He turned the ball over and had 60 yards by halftime. 49ers only go up 27-0 cause he stunk it up the first half...
The 49ers with 27-0 at half had nothing to do with Rodgers. That was the horrific job from Pack defense of attempting to stop Niners run game.


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But one cannot simply assume that Rodgers would be the same QB as he is now in SF. He had to sit behind one of the greats for a few years. He would not have had that in SF.. or the coaching stability.

At least for the logical thinking crowd.
Yes, a lot of factors go into moving players to different teams. Just food for thought.

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Old 01-25-2020, 01:01 AM   #112017
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Tom Benson managed to turn his image around remarkably after winning that Super Bowl. Tom Benson tried his best to relocate the Saints out of New Orleans even before Katrina, and kept on trying even as the city was reeling in the aftermath. At that time his image was on par with FEMA and Dubya in New Orleans.

Only Brees and the good will from winning a Super Bowl made most forget Benson was a scumbag. Not surprised in the least that his wife is also a terrible person.
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Old 01-25-2020, 01:11 AM   #112018
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Yes, exactly. One of the greatest QBs on such a mediocre offense. Who knows what his potential could have been this past decade. But we can add the "ifs" to anyone and then you get a fantasy team!
Mediocre offenses don't go 13-3, especially when they only won 6 games the year before. In 12 years with Rodgers as the starting QB for Green Bay, they have had 9 seasons with winning records (8 of them with 10 or more wins). I hope you're not implying that he's had a mediocre offense his whole career.

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If you're comparing "regular" season vs "playoff" season, that includes more than just championship games. His playoff stats are 11-8 record, 40 TDs, 12 Ints, and 100.0 rating (4th all-time and 2nd among active).
Nope, just championship games, the second most important game of the season. Thought that was pretty clear in my post.

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The 49ers with 27-0 at half had nothing to do with Rodgers. That was the horrific job from Pack defense of attempting to stop Niners run game.
So his INT and 2 fumbles in the first half contributed nothing to the score, lol okay.
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Old 01-25-2020, 04:01 AM   #112019
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Classy speech by Eli. Pretty much underscores his career: a class act all the way.
Hes definitely HoF bound. Well deserved.
hes really a mediocre at best quarterback who made two lucky throws and was carried by a great defense.

yes. hes so classy for going 6-10 or worse the majority of the last decade in the worst division in football and then allowing the giants to pay almost 25 million a year. hes so good, he was a .500 quarterback.
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Old 01-25-2020, 05:39 AM   #112020
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Eli in 16 seasons missed the playoffs 10 times. In 6 postseasons he went one and done 4 times and won the SB 2 times mainly being carried by the defense. He was clutch in the big game. He's also had some of the luckiest catches in the history of the game.

He's been very durable so he has respectable passing stats. He's borderline HoF. No way is he first ballot. I'm biased so I don't want to see him get in.
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