The Official Mirage Speakers Thread

[StalkerVette]

Originally Posted by dr_gallup

It's a common screw thread, there are many mounts that will screw right into it. I thought I had the thread written down somewhere but I'm not finding it. It's bigger than 1/4-20, probably 3/8-16.

Kind of surprised you are using the OMD-R's for surround instead of rears.

Since the rear wall has a light sconce, barn door going to the bathroom and the glass door going to the media closet the R's would not fit whereas the 5's will work out well. If the back wall was wider I would use the R's.

Let me run down there and measure again.

[StalkerVette]

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

Since the rear wall has a light sconce, barn door going to the bathroom and the glass door going to the media closet the R's would not fit whereas the 5's will work out well. If the back wall was wider I would use the R's.

Let me run down there and measure again.

Took another look at the rear stage. The OMDR would be to tight with the barn door that goes to the bathroom. Dimensions are perfect for the OMD5.

FYI - I ran wiring to the ceiling AND down by the floor. While the OMDR will not work on the wall, if I wanted to I could use my OMD15's in the rear corners. Tried to lay everything out so that I will have options down the road.

[StalkerVette]

I'm getting ready to mount the rear and front OMD5's. The plan since I will have drop acoustic ceiling tiles is to mount them downwards.

Question: For those of you who have done this is there an appreciable difference with the omnidirectional mounted downward? Pro / con?

[dr_gallup]

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

I'm getting ready to mount the rear and front OMD5's. The plan since I will have drop acoustic ceiling tiles is to mount them downwards.

Question: For those of you who have done this is there an appreciable difference with the omnidirectional mounted downward? Pro / con?

I have OMD-5's mounted upside down for my height speakers and my OMD-C1 center is also mounted upside down. I think they work great like that. They are mounted on the vertical back wall of a tray ceiling recess about 4' in front of the room back wall. The height speakers are almost directly above the OMD-28 left & right speakers.

[StalkerVette]

From what I read the best positioning for the height is directly above front LR speakers, unfortunately mine will be ~1.5' behind them since I will be wall mount. After the drop ceiling is installed, I will revisit it to see if it is practical to bring something off the joist to mount them directly above LR speakers.

[StalkerVette]

FYI I fount the perfect wall mount for the OMD speakers. The original mounting screw fits in the slot with no clearance issue.

Pair for $12.49 with Prime, here is the link:
Amazon Speaker Mount

[StalkerVette]

Some OMD goodness up on the wall.... Cannot wait to get the other speaker boxes openned, but that will need to wait until the flooring is done.

[dr_gallup]

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

FYI I fount the perfect wall mount for the OMD speakers. The original mounting screw fits in the slot with no clearance issue.

Pair for $12.49 with Prime, here is the link:
Amazon Speaker Mount

Nice find, I'll buy some just for possible future use.

[Ixian]

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

Some OMD goodness up on the wall.... Cannot wait to get the other speaker boxes openned, but that will need to wait until the flooring is done.

Keep us posted on the build out. Looking good so far.

[StalkerVette]

Thanks Ixian!

Dr G I think I will do the same and purchase another set to keep in on hand. Never know if something will change down the line.

Just got off the phone with my financial advisor and we were discussing audio systems. He told me about a HT system he heard on display in Australia that had 17 speakers! Said the sound presence was mind blowing. An example was similar that of sensing someone walking up and whispering in your ear.

Is that like the Lexicon system I have in my Genesis???? It has 17 speakers.

[Boutch]

Hi,

Haven’t posted in a long long time. Living happy with my pair of OMD-28. I would like to get a hold of an OMD-C2 Rosewood but can’t find any. I regret not having bought one when the were still available. Anybody looking to sell one ?

[StalkerVette]

OK Mirage experts, I need some advice.

My Emotiva XPA-DR1 amp kept kicking into protection mode. I use that dedicated monoblock amp dedicated for the OMD-C2 center channel.

I took the grill off and discovered both sub woofers on the OMD-C2 are not kicking out as they should - everything is coming out of the mid and tweeter. So it is definitely something inside the speaker. My guess is the speakers crossover is shot. No idea how I'm going to get it fixed/repaired. Looking for your thoughts before I tear into the C2.

Did a little web digging on the Mirage crossover:
Amplification type: Passive
Crossover channel Qty: 3-way
Frequency Response: 60 - 20,000 Hz
Impedance: 6 Ohm
Crossover frequency: 550 / 2500 Hz

Does the board have a fuse? I have not dug into the speaker yet.

Any suggestions? Parts Express or try to have it repaired?

[StalkerVette]

I tried unsuccessfully to get to the crossover in the OMD-C2...

It appears the cabinet was assembled in a modular fashion gluing the internal baffle structure just before securing the speakers. The baffle has maybe a 3/4" air gap towards the front of the speaker as you are looking at it so there is no way to reach around it. The outboard carbon fiber woofers have maybe an inch of slack and the speaker wire is welded - so they cannot be removed without clipping the wire. The center mid-range cannot be removed because the tweeter is in the way, the tweeter mount has two screws - one from the outside on one inside, making it impossible to get to.

They way they may have done it is to have the bottom open while the cabinet was still raw wood, this would give full access to internals. Then when finished do the piano black coating. I felt all surfaces feeling for a seem and could not find anything.

I wish they would have made the enclosure like a Les Paul guitar, it has an access plate on the back side.

I cannot see any way to get to the crossover. Has anyone attempted this? Hopefully Big Daddy is lurking around the forum and sees this.

[StalkerVette]

When Mirage closed their door did they farm their repair out to an independent company?

[StalkerVette]

Moved the Rocket RCS200 "Bigfoot" center channel speaker downstairs until I can find a repair center. Good pairing, sounds good.

[dr_gallup]

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

When Mirage closed their door did they farm their repair out to an independent company?

Klipsch bought the brand and had parts for awhile but others have posted that many parts are no longer available. I don't know if Klipsch has authorized repair shops. Cross overs tend to have more generic parts than drivers so you could possibly find a part if it is a capacitor or resistor that is bad. I have no idea how to get the cabinet apart. Good luck.

[dolsey01]

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

When Mirage closed their door did they farm their repair out to an independent company?

You could send it to Danny Richie at GR Research, he could fix it and probably make it also sound better.

[deepakmr]

Are you sure it is the Mirage's? I run a similar setup - my Mirage front three speakers are powered by XPA1's. I had the issue where the XPA1 would go into standby mode. I connected with Emotiva, and after troubleshooting, it turned out to be the trigger circuit on the XPA1. I tried replacing the trigger cable - it worked fine for a few months, but, then it was back at it again. I now keep them on all the time. The other option is to send the unit to Emotiva to get that fixed.

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

OK Mirage experts, I need some advice.

My Emotiva XPA-DR1 amp kept kicking into protection mode. I use that dedicated monoblock amp dedicated for the OMD-C2 center channel.

I took the grill off and discovered both sub woofers on the OMD-C2 are not kicking out as they should - everything is coming out of the mid and tweeter. So it is definitely something inside the speaker. My guess is the speakers crossover is shot. No idea how I'm going to get it fixed/repaired. Looking for your thoughts before I tear into the C2.

Did a little web digging on the Mirage crossover:
Amplification type: Passive
Crossover channel Qty: 3-way
Frequency Response: 60 - 20,000 Hz
Impedance: 6 Ohm
Crossover frequency: 550 / 2500 Hz

Does the board have a fuse? I have not dug into the speaker yet.

Any suggestions? Parts Express or try to have it repaired?

[StalkerVette]

I have a Rocket center channel speaker connected and it sounds great,

With the OMD-C2 all sound is coming from the mid speaker and tweeter, both woofers are flat dead. Can the amplifier do this? I honestly don't know.

[ImPulSive]

Originally Posted by StalkerVette

I have a Rocket center channel speaker connected and it sounds great,

With the OMD-C2 all sound is coming from the mid speaker and tweeter, both woofers are flat dead. Can the amplifier do this? I honestly don't know.

If no changes on the amp and pre-amp side in between the speaker comparison tests, then it should be outputting the same range of frequencies to both speakers. Assuming that this channel is outputting down to 80 Hz or lower, low enough to engage those speakers? If the cut off in the pre-amp is too high, then nothing coming out of amp to power the larger speakers on the C2. Assuming this is not the case since you indicate that the other speaker is producing those lower frequencies.

So if those low end frequencies are present on other speaker and missing on the C2, then 1 of 2 things come to mind.

1. On the C2, are the bars that connect the binding posts together vertically still doing that job? Everything connected and tight? If not, that could be the issue. Check.

2. In the C2 there is a problem with the internal crossover circuitry, probably a blown cap but it could be anything.

Not much else it can be.

Edit: One other thing, have you tried connecting your amp to the other set of binding posts on the C2? Might as well, just to see if that makes any difference...