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Old 03-17-2020, 06:42 PM   #1
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Question George Romero's Martin, 95 minutes (Anchor Bay) vs 90 minutes (Arrow)

I've searched and not found any answer to this.

Some DVD's of George Romero's Marin are 1:34:41, like the Anchor Bay and Lionsgate discs, while others are 1:30:49, like the Arrow discs.

Sites like DVDCompare only say that there are "no cuts" on any of these discs, but clearly that is not the case.

I have verified with people who have each disc that each disc starts and ends with the same title and end credits sequence (i.e., there' not some 4+ minute long intro or something on the 95 minute version).

Does anyone know what is actually missing in the 91 minute versions?
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Old 03-17-2020, 06:58 PM   #2
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Nothing.

The reasons the runtimes are different is because of NTSC and PAL. NTSC formats run at proper 24fps (the framerate which a majority of films are shot in) while PAL runs at 25fps (one frame more) resulting in a faster speed (and higher pitch).
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Old 03-18-2020, 03:14 PM   #3
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I actually knew about the PAL thing, but for some reason I wasn't thinking it would add *that* much time, as I didn't do the math in my head (or on a calculator). It's been awhile since I handled a PAL disc and for some reason my line of thinking was surely a studio would speed correct their video to match the correct run time. But I guess speeding up the video and audio is pretty common handling for PAL for some reason. :P
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91 min + 3.46 min (4% PAL speed up) = 95 min
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:03 PM   #5
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I actually knew about the PAL thing, but for some reason I wasn't thinking it would add *that* much time, as I didn't do the math in my head (or on a calculator). It's been awhile since I handled a PAL disc and for some reason my line of thinking was surely a studio would speed correct their video to match the correct run time. But I guess speeding up the video and audio is pretty common handling for PAL for some reason. :P
I don't know of a single PAL release that was "speed corrected" from a 24 fps film source. Every PAL DVD I've ever encountered was converted to 25fps, and thus ran about 3 or 4% faster than normal. That's what's accounting for the speedier run time of the Martin discs in the UK and other PAL regions. This is obviously not an issue with blu-ray.
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Old 03-19-2020, 01:51 PM   #6
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If you are taking footage shot in 24fps and changing it to 25fps and you want to not change the speed, whatever method you use will be adding frames to the picture, which is going to cause worse changes than the speed-up. Sometimes they do pitch correction, but there's really not much to do about the picture.

Note: This applies to film only. Television can be adjusted if it wasn't shot on film; it won't look great, but they do it.
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