Whats in a Name? - Blu-ray Forum

MrMangus · 03-11-2005, 07:38 AM

What's in a name? why not just call it HDVD (HD Versatile Disc), not HD - DVD, not HDDVD, but just plane HDVD!?!

It's interesting to watch this new format unfold.

It's even more curious to see how much confusion will be created in the market when and if Blu-ray (BD) becomes the winning standard.

Because if the products (ie: Players, Recorders, Media) are all referred to as BD(xyz) -- many customers will immediately draw a stare and look like deer running into the your head lights. :shock:

Two camps come to mind... the ones who know (Geeks, informed consumer) and then there are the ones who will not keep up with all the acronyms which ultimately causes displacement of what to buy and keeps everyone guessing. Great for job security - bad for adoption by the masses!

Blue Ray is cool as it identifys the technology difference between BD and HD - DVD, but customers are only going to care if it is a HD Versatile Disc, backwards compatible to DVD, CD (all formats et al)
Since both specs use blue rays over red -- its the difference in the spec that ultimately matters... so Blu-Ray by name is misleading to the average consumer. By simply referring to Blu-Ray as a better spec and then only to call it BD when you naturally want to call it HDVD.

So what's in a name? Does it matter -- its too early to tell. Marketing gurus out there will decide it's fate... a fate that could recreate DVD -/+ debate...

8)

theonlymember · 07-07-2005, 07:11 PM

Whichever one wins, I'll still call them DVD's. AHAHHA!!

Gorkab · 07-07-2005, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theonlymember

Whichever one wins, I'll still call them DVD's. AHAHHA!!

Oh yeah ? SO you would have called the DVD LD either ? :x

thunderhawk · 07-08-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorkab

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Originally Posted by theonlymember

Whichever one wins, I'll still call them DVD's. AHAHHA!!

Oh yeah ? SO you would have called the DVD LD either ? :x

Idd..... :x
Please call technologies with their name. Thanks...
I dont call my TV an enhanced radio... :?

theonlymember · 07-08-2005, 04:11 AM

But if I had an HDTV, I wouldn't say. "Oh, I'm watching HDTV." I'm watching TV.

Gorkab · 07-08-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by theonlymember

But if I had an HDTV, I wouldn't say. "Oh, I'm watching HDTV." I'm watching TV.

In 50 years yes, but now, if there's HDTV, we say it's broadcasting in HDTV

thunderhawk · 07-08-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorkab

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Originally Posted by theonlymember

But if I had an HDTV, I wouldn't say. "Oh, I'm watching HDTV." I'm watching TV.

In 50 years yes, but now, if there's HDTV, we say it's broadcasting in HDTV

I fully agree with you

But I dont think people will say: I'm watching HDTV, I think people will keep saying: I'm watching TV. As the 'old TV' will dissapear

theonlymember · 07-15-2005, 09:43 PM

I have come here to say that I will NOT be calling Blu Ray Discs DVD's. I shall now dub them...BRD's. Makes more sense than BD, and BD makes me think of Betas or A Tracks or something. BRD's sound better to me and they contain all the initial letters of the format itself. Blu Ray Discs. Thank you.

ResNet · 07-19-2005, 09:13 PM

I agree! I am a custom audio video integrator. HD 720P and 1080i is old hat in the custom market. 1080P source material needs to surface. TI has a 1080P chip out this month, CEDIA will likely show 1080P equipment. Back to the source; HD_DVD format is only 1080i it will be outdated before it is mainstream. BueRay at 1080P needs to be the format. But I don’t think in a million years they can call it Blue Ray. Some how they need to keep the DVD convention. If consumers walk into Target store on Tuesday for there weekly DVD, toilet paper and Cascade dish soap run and see the wedding crashers on Blu-Ray this fall they will choke. Especially given that the majority of the population does not make bi-monthly equipment upgrades like most of us reading this forum. If they suspect for even a minute that they have to replace the familys new DVD player there will be a consumer mutiny. I think there is a subtle way of introducing it. Call it DVD enhanced with Blu-Ray for now. The masses will be none the wiser and the early adopters will embrace and cheer! I know I will.

Rob · 07-20-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMangus

What's in a name? why not just call it HDVD (HD Versatile Disc), not HD - DVD, not HDDVD, but just plane HDVD!?!

The acronym dvd is pretty much understood by everyone these days, (or at least the product if not the full term), though I'm sure it wouldn't have been in 1998 when the format was released in the Uk. I'm also sure that in the next few years Sky's blanket advertising of it's new high definition service will bring the same understanding or recognition of the term 'HD'. I mean, it's just 2 letters extra to fathom. Therefore, it should be very simple for the average man with half a brain to put HD and DVD together and reaslise HD-DVD is basically a high definition/next gen disc format. Blu-Ray on the other hand gives the non technical little chance of working out what it is. HDVD or high DVD doesn't explain as clearly the difference between it and standard DVD.

thunderhawk · 07-20-2005, 09:02 AM

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HDVD or high DVD...

Actually I think they mean High Definition Versatille Disc

But it would cause to much confusion. HDDVD and HDVD... :? Way to much the same for the average consumer!

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Call it DVD enhanced with Blu-Ray for now.

Thats the hybrid disc!

DVD & BD on one disc

THE DVD with the logo HDready on it

awesome

thunderhawk · 08-05-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMangus

What's in a name? why not just call it HDVD (HD Versatile Disc), not HD - DVD, not HDDVD, but just plane HDVD!?!

I just figured out that the term HDVD has already been taken for "high-density volumetric display." :lol:

BizCat · 04-09-2018, 08:09 PM

And now 4K UHD!

Yes, I did JUST bump the very last thread on the very last page!!! :P

sk33tr · 04-09-2018, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BizCat

And now 4K UHD!

Yes, I did JUST bump the very last thread on the very last page!!! :P

'cause you're a ****in' rebel, dude.

Scarface32 · 04-10-2018, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BizCat

And now 4K UHD!

Yes, I did JUST bump the very last thread on the very last page!!! :P

But... WHY?!?

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Originally Posted by sk33tr

'cause you're a ****in' rebel, dude.

Don’t encourage him.

BizCat · 04-10-2018, 01:41 AM

Hehehe

Head bugs · 04-10-2018, 01:44 AM

Hd dvd> bd

Waboman · 04-10-2018, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BizCat

And now 4K UHD!

Yes, I did JUST bump the very last thread on the very last page!!! :P

The threads OP has only 1 post. Creating this thread back in '05. Dilly Dilly What's in a name thread creator. Dilly Dilly.

03-11-2005, 07:38 AM	#1
MrMangus New Member Member since:Mar 2005	Whats in a Name? What's in a name? why not just call it HDVD (HD Versatile Disc), not HD - DVD, not HDDVD, but just plane HDVD!?! It's interesting to watch this new format unfold. It's even more curious to see how much confusion will be created in the market when and if Blu-ray (BD) becomes the winning standard. Because if the products (ie: Players, Recorders, Media) are all referred to as BD(xyz) -- many customers will immediately draw a stare and look like deer running into the your head lights. :shock: Two camps come to mind... the ones who know (Geeks, informed consumer) and then there are the ones who will not keep up with all the acronyms which ultimately causes displacement of what to buy and keeps everyone guessing. Great for job security - bad for adoption by the masses! Blue Ray is cool as it identifys the technology difference between BD and HD - DVD, but customers are only going to care if it is a HD Versatile Disc, backwards compatible to DVD, CD (all formats et al) Since both specs use blue rays over red -- its the difference in the spec that ultimately matters... so Blu-Ray by name is misleading to the average consumer. By simply referring to Blu-Ray as a better spec and then only to call it BD when you naturally want to call it HDVD. So what's in a name? Does it matter -- its too early to tell. Marketing gurus out there will decide it's fate... a fate that could recreate DVD -/+ debate... 8)

07-19-2005, 09:13 PM	#9
ResNet New Member Member since:Jul 2005	BluRay Naming convention I agree! I am a custom audio video integrator. HD 720P and 1080i is old hat in the custom market. 1080P source material needs to surface. TI has a 1080P chip out this month, CEDIA will likely show 1080P equipment. Back to the source; HD_DVD format is only 1080i it will be outdated before it is mainstream. BueRay at 1080P needs to be the format. But I don’t think in a million years they can call it Blue Ray. Some how they need to keep the DVD convention. If consumers walk into Target store on Tuesday for there weekly DVD, toilet paper and Cascade dish soap run and see the wedding crashers on Blu-Ray this fall they will choke. Especially given that the majority of the population does not make bi-monthly equipment upgrades like most of us reading this forum. If they suspect for even a minute that they have to replace the familys new DVD player there will be a consumer mutiny. I think there is a subtle way of introducing it. Call it DVD enhanced with Blu-Ray for now. The masses will be none the wiser and the early adopters will embrace and cheer! I know I will.

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07-07-2005, 07:11 PM	#2
theonlymember Junior Member Member since:Jul 2005	Whichever one wins, I'll still call them DVD's. AHAHHA!!

07-08-2005, 04:11 AM	#5
theonlymember Junior Member Member since:Jul 2005	But if I had an HDTV, I wouldn't say. "Oh, I'm watching HDTV." I'm watching TV.

07-15-2005, 09:43 PM	#8
theonlymember Junior Member Member since:Jul 2005	I have come here to say that I will NOT be calling Blu Ray Discs DVD's. I shall now dub them...BRD's. Makes more sense than BD, and BD makes me think of Betas or A Tracks or something. BRD's sound better to me and they contain all the initial letters of the format itself. Blu Ray Discs. Thank you.

04-09-2018, 08:09 PM	#13
BizCat Blu-ray Duke Member since:Mar 2016 Location:oHIo 4K collection:661 Blu-ray collection:2724 DVD collection:89 Trading Score:159	And now 4K UHD! Yes, I did JUST bump the very last thread on the very last page!!! :P

04-10-2018, 01:41 AM	#16
BizCat Blu-ray Duke Member since:Mar 2016 Location:oHIo 4K collection:661 Blu-ray collection:2724 DVD collection:89 Trading Score:159	Hehehe

04-10-2018, 01:44 AM	#17
Head bugs Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2017 Location:🇺🇸 Trading Score:59	Hd dvd> bd

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