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Wingman1977 · 08-22-2011, 03:28 AM

I bought Reservoir Dogs from BBV today (for $12.99). It's a different version (the cover doesn't have the two shining sliver strips on it and it's a different UPC #). I popped it in my PS3 and low and behold, it works .Here's the UPC #'s for those wondering which version is which:

Old one (with the shining silver on the front): 01223619154480

New one: 01223619154481

I might have to do this with Total Recall as well

Hope this helps.

dbrady187 · 08-22-2011, 04:25 AM

My copy of Lord of War went to shit as well. Not a cool thing to do to purchasing customers.

Wingman1977 · 08-22-2011, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbrady187

My copy of Lord of War went to shit as well. Not a cool thing to do to purchasing customers.

It happened to me as well about a year ago. Had to replace it (thank god I found it at BB for $7.99 or was it $9.99?) but the replacement works flawlessly to this day.

Wingman1977 · 08-22-2011, 03:53 PM

BTW, anyone have the UPC for Total Recall?

Wingman1977 · 08-26-2011, 05:55 PM

I repurchased King of NY today at FYE for $10 new today and it loaded up to the menu flawlessly (I'll watch it later on when I get the chance to make sure it has zero problems).

john_1958 · 08-26-2011, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxfan5634

Has anyone else had an issue with this? The only one that doesn't work anymore is Devils Rejects, and I've tried 4 copies of it. It used to work just fine. I know I saw someone else mention it in another thread about Basic Instinct but I wanna see if we can get this solved. The discs I've tried take like 15 min just to load up, then they won't play.

For those who do have the PS3 and some older titles, try them and see if they work.

I would get a different player something more recent

KrugStillo · 08-29-2011, 04:48 PM

I had this same problem with The Devil's Rejects and Basic Instinct. I have not repurchased Basic Instinct but I did get another copy of The Devil's Rejects a few months back and low and behold it worked fine right away. I tried to watch it last night and the same crap happened. It starts freezing and breaking up and then it won't work at all. This really sucks because it's one of my favorite films. My last attempt is gonna be the double-feature release of House/Rejects. Hopefully Lionsgate remanufactured the discs and didn't just plop the old ones in the cases. If anyone has already tried this and had any luck please let me know. I won't be able to pick it up for a week or two but I'll respond back with the results when I have them. Sick of this crap already.

KrugStillo · 08-29-2011, 04:59 PM

One more thing:

My theory is badly manufactured discs. I think there was also a firmware issue with some of these older titles, possibly, but I really think it was a very large batch of badly replicated discs. Some may work longer than others and maybe some will never have problems but that's my theory. As long as Lionsgate represses most of these discs we'll be fine but trying to find the new ones is tricky as I found out with The Devil's Rejects.

cajundoc · 09-19-2011, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxfan5634

Has anyone else had an issue with this? The only one that doesn't work anymore is Devils Rejects, and I've tried 4 copies of it. It used to work just fine. I know I saw someone else mention it in another thread about Basic Instinct but I wanna see if we can get this solved. The discs I've tried take like 15 min just to load up, then they won't play.

For those who do have the PS3 and some older titles, try them and see if they work.

I don't understand it either. Other blueray's play fine. ANYONE with new info??? doesn't seem to be a firmware issue... laser seems to play other discs just fine.

fnishajj · 09-24-2011, 06:55 AM

To fix it I replaced the laser in my PS3.

alwaysHD · 09-25-2011, 07:55 AM

only disc i have had problems with is...
crank 2 (everyone knows why)
big mommas like father like son (worst movie ever)

KrugStillo · 10-02-2011, 03:00 PM

Ok here goes. If you've followed my saga on this thread you'll know that I've gone through 3 copies of The Devil's Rejects. All 3 either played once and never played again or didn't play at all. I even wrote to Lionsgate and got a replacement disc that didn't work. I finally said screw it and bought the double feature version with House of 1000 Corpses to see if I had any better luck. I did this because I figured they might be newly manufactured discs and I was positive the older discs were a manufacturing error. Guess what? It loads fast and plays flawlessly so far. Plus you can tell just by looking at the written side of the disc that it is a repress. The old version has a shiny goldish looking clearcoat on the back (this is the one with issues). The new version looks more silver on back than gold and the middle has a white ring (it's actually just the label peaking through from the front) that can easily establish the difference between the 2. However I went through 2 copies of this one as well because the first one I got at FYE had some weird markings on it so I went and immediately exchanged the set for another one. The second set had one repressed (Devil's) and one old pressing (House) so I just made sure I had both new ones in my case. This has been an extremely frustrating process that has cost me close to $50 just to get a version that plays properly (The Devil's Rejects is one of my favorite films). I tried Lionsgate customer service, short of drawing them a detailed description they are not much help. They even sent me an exchange copy that didn't play at all. I gave up on them. It's trial and error. There is an obvious difference to the way the discs look. Best way I can explain it is the new versions have and obvious whitish ring in the center of the playable side. I hope this helps. I am now confident that the early discs were manufactured poorly (it may have something to do with the early clearcoat). The only trick is to get a newly pressed disc like I previously explained YMMV. Good luck.

PuppetMasterBlu · 03-29-2012, 03:18 AM

Yup my copy of Devil's Rejects is bad too

mikey ra · 06-10-2012, 03:05 PM

I commented about my Total Recall and my Stargate discs crapping out on me in another discussion:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=42

Long story short - it appears early Lionsgate are very susecptible to failure. I guess I still need to monitor (i) 3:10 to Yuma; (ii) Rambo collection and (iii) The Punisher as those are some other "early" Lionsgate release Blu-rays.

OrlandoEastwood · 06-11-2012, 06:56 PM

My copy of Open Water 1 & 2 won't play properly in my Insignia anymore. I loaded it up and played fine in my PS3. Only problem with a Lionsgate BD I have so far.

wormraper · 06-12-2012, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

My copy of Open Water 1 & 2 won't play properly in my Insignia anymore. I loaded it up and played fine in my PS3. Only problem with a Lionsgate BD I have so far.

that's 99% probability of the laser in your insignia going. quite common in those cheap players for the laser to go first. esp since it works in your ps3

mikey ra · 07-27-2012, 02:28 PM

Well - my third Blu-ray title has now died!!! Went to watch The Ninth Gate last night and even though it played fine last year - it will not load any of my players (Oppo - PS3 or Panny). In fact, I get the "No Disc" reading from my Oppo and the PS3 just spins and spins and then gives up trying to read the disc. Lionsgate disc rot has struck again!!! (previous Lionsgate title that rotted on me were the first versions of Total Recall & Stargate). Sigh.

EricJ · 07-27-2012, 09:42 PM

My first thought was that older Lionsgate titles, like the first Terminator and Total Recall releases, were oddly using some outdated MPEG2 coding (because nobody really knew what they were doing back then), and that this might be part of the problem, but think they were using VC-1 by the time 2008 rolled around.
It's a good theory, but I'd still blame the Insignia.

Blu-Benny · 07-27-2012, 09:47 PM

Now I’m all worried my copy of The Punisher isn’t going to work.

I’m gonna throw it in as soon as I get home to check it out!!

bestever23 · 09-20-2012, 09:18 AM

sigh, to anyone who can't play lionsgate movies, do they have a old ps3? the fat ones? because I do and it's not playing lionsgate

I put in Cabin in the Woods and it didn't play. where do I go to fix my laser on my ps3?

09-25-2011, 07:55 AM	#51
alwaysHD Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Desert Blu-ray collection:826 DVD collection:126 Blu-ray reviews: 120	. only disc i have had problems with is... crank 2 (everyone knows why) big mommas like father like son (worst movie ever)

10-02-2011, 03:00 PM	#52
KrugStillo Special Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:New Bedford, MA Blu-ray reviews: 6	Devil's Rejects in Double Feature Sets Plays Fine Ok here goes. If you've followed my saga on this thread you'll know that I've gone through 3 copies of The Devil's Rejects. All 3 either played once and never played again or didn't play at all. I even wrote to Lionsgate and got a replacement disc that didn't work. I finally said screw it and bought the double feature version with House of 1000 Corpses to see if I had any better luck. I did this because I figured they might be newly manufactured discs and I was positive the older discs were a manufacturing error. Guess what? It loads fast and plays flawlessly so far. Plus you can tell just by looking at the written side of the disc that it is a repress. The old version has a shiny goldish looking clearcoat on the back (this is the one with issues). The new version looks more silver on back than gold and the middle has a white ring (it's actually just the label peaking through from the front) that can easily establish the difference between the 2. However I went through 2 copies of this one as well because the first one I got at FYE had some weird markings on it so I went and immediately exchanged the set for another one. The second set had one repressed (Devil's) and one old pressing (House) so I just made sure I had both new ones in my case. This has been an extremely frustrating process that has cost me close to $50 just to get a version that plays properly (The Devil's Rejects is one of my favorite films). I tried Lionsgate customer service, short of drawing them a detailed description they are not much help. They even sent me an exchange copy that didn't play at all. I gave up on them. It's trial and error. There is an obvious difference to the way the discs look. Best way I can explain it is the new versions have and obvious whitish ring in the center of the playable side. I hope this helps. I am now confident that the early discs were manufactured poorly (it may have something to do with the early clearcoat). The only trick is to get a newly pressed disc like I previously explained YMMV. Good luck.

06-10-2012, 03:05 PM	#54
mikey ra Member Member since:Oct 2009	Total Recall & Stargate I commented about my Total Recall and my Stargate discs crapping out on me in another discussion: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...5&postcount=42 Long story short - it appears early Lionsgate are very susecptible to failure. I guess I still need to monitor (i) 3:10 to Yuma; (ii) Rambo collection and (iii) The Punisher as those are some other "early" Lionsgate release Blu-rays.

07-27-2012, 02:28 PM	#57
mikey ra Member Member since:Oct 2009	Another one bites the dust Well - my third Blu-ray title has now died!!! Went to watch The Ninth Gate last night and even though it played fine last year - it will not load any of my players (Oppo - PS3 or Panny). In fact, I get the "No Disc" reading from my Oppo and the PS3 just spins and spins and then gives up trying to read the disc. Lionsgate disc rot has struck again!!! (previous Lionsgate title that rotted on me were the first versions of Total Recall & Stargate). Sigh.

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08-22-2011, 03:28 AM	#41
Wingman1977 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:The empire state 4K collection:579 Blu-ray collection:1462 Trading Score:23	I bought Reservoir Dogs from BBV today (for $12.99). It's a different version (the cover doesn't have the two shining sliver strips on it and it's a different UPC #). I popped it in my PS3 and low and behold, it works .Here's the UPC #'s for those wondering which version is which: Old one (with the shining silver on the front): 01223619154480 New one: 01223619154481 I might have to do this with Total Recall as well Hope this helps.

08-22-2011, 04:25 AM	#42
dbrady187 Member Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Illinois Blu-ray collection:302 Blu-ray reviews:5	My copy of Lord of War went to shit as well. Not a cool thing to do to purchasing customers.

08-22-2011, 03:53 PM	#44
Wingman1977 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:The empire state 4K collection:579 Blu-ray collection:1462 Trading Score:23	BTW, anyone have the UPC for Total Recall?

08-26-2011, 05:55 PM	#45
Wingman1977 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:The empire state 4K collection:579 Blu-ray collection:1462 Trading Score:23	I repurchased King of NY today at FYE for $10 new today and it loaded up to the menu flawlessly (I'll watch it later on when I get the chance to make sure it has zero problems).

08-29-2011, 04:48 PM	#47
KrugStillo Special Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:New Bedford, MA Blu-ray reviews: 6	I had this same problem with The Devil's Rejects and Basic Instinct. I have not repurchased Basic Instinct but I did get another copy of The Devil's Rejects a few months back and low and behold it worked fine right away. I tried to watch it last night and the same crap happened. It starts freezing and breaking up and then it won't work at all. This really sucks because it's one of my favorite films. My last attempt is gonna be the double-feature release of House/Rejects. Hopefully Lionsgate remanufactured the discs and didn't just plop the old ones in the cases. If anyone has already tried this and had any luck please let me know. I won't be able to pick it up for a week or two but I'll respond back with the results when I have them. Sick of this crap already.

08-29-2011, 04:59 PM	#48
KrugStillo Special Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:New Bedford, MA Blu-ray reviews: 6	One more thing: My theory is badly manufactured discs. I think there was also a firmware issue with some of these older titles, possibly, but I really think it was a very large batch of badly replicated discs. Some may work longer than others and maybe some will never have problems but that's my theory. As long as Lionsgate represses most of these discs we'll be fine but trying to find the new ones is tricky as I found out with The Devil's Rejects.

09-24-2011, 06:55 AM	#50
fnishajj Banned Member since:Sep 2011	To fix it I replaced the laser in my PS3.

03-29-2012, 03:18 AM	#53
PuppetMasterBlu Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:USA 4K collection:278 Blu-ray collection:744 DVD collection:18 Trading Score:213	Yup my copy of Devil's Rejects is bad too

06-11-2012, 06:56 PM	#55
OrlandoEastwood Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:R-Point Blu-ray reviews:86 Trading Score:24	My copy of Open Water 1 & 2 won't play properly in my Insignia anymore. I loaded it up and played fine in my PS3. Only problem with a Lionsgate BD I have so far.

07-27-2012, 09:42 PM	#58
EricJ Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:The Paradise of New England Blu-ray collection:6	My first thought was that older Lionsgate titles, like the first Terminator and Total Recall releases, were oddly using some outdated MPEG2 coding (because nobody really knew what they were doing back then), and that this might be part of the problem, but think they were using VC-1 by the time 2008 rolled around. It's a good theory, but I'd still blame the Insignia.

07-27-2012, 09:47 PM	#59
Blu-Benny Michael Bay's #1 Fan Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:548 DVD collection:108 Trading Score:138	Now I’m all worried my copy of The Punisher isn’t going to work. I’m gonna throw it in as soon as I get home to check it out!!

09-20-2012, 09:18 AM	#60
bestever23 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Arizona	sigh, to anyone who can't play lionsgate movies, do they have a old ps3? the fat ones? because I do and it's not playing lionsgate I put in Cabin in the Woods and it didn't play. where do I go to fix my laser on my ps3?

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