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Old 06-19-2015, 12:40 PM   #1
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Budgets are getting bigger than ever year by year and this is understandable with a lot of movies, considering the amount of action, visual FX, huge sequences or expensive actors involved. However there are always movies that seem to cost an extraordinary amount of money but the money is certainly not up on the screen. For example I believe Inception cost £200 Mil yet apart from jetting to a few different countries i cannot for the life of me see what the money was spent on. Another one is Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince, which apparently cost $250Mil despite being very action and VFX lite. I can imagine some of the pay rises the cast must have received to push the budget into those numbers. I know Sahara is a notorious one as an example of screwy Hollywood accounting. That movie cost $150Mil to make.

Any other examples of extraordinary budgets but an end result that really makes you wonder where all the money went?
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What on earth!!!!! That's insane.
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What on earth!!!!! That's insane.
Pretty sure Ryan Phillippe got paid from this one...
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$17 million of The Invasion's $65 million budget went to Nicole Kidman's salary alone. Who knows what Daniel Craig was paid.

Edit: $10 million was also spent on reshoots.
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I was looking further at big budgets and though it was a good remake, I must wonder how Adrian Lyne's remake of Lolita cost $62 million to make.

And I remembered that Roman Polanski's Carnage cost $25 million despite mostly taking place in one room.
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$120M budget
How Do You Know is a perfect example unless boxofficemojo made a mistake. Why was it so expensive? That's just insane. Didnt they learn anythng from Brooks' 80 million Spanglish? Why was As Good As It Gets even costing 50 million? the movie took place in an apartment most of time and a few scenes in Baltimore.
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How Do You Know is a perfect example unless boxofficemojo made a mistake. Why was it so expensive? That's just insane. Didnt they learn anythng from Brooks' 80 million Spanglish? Why was As Good As It Gets even costing 50 million? the movie took place in an apartment most of time and a few scenes in Baltimore.
Why the hell does Brooks need so much money to make mediocre comedies? As Good as it Gets was alright but heck that's a lot of money for these kinds of movies!
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:07 PM   #9
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How Do You Know is a perfect example unless boxofficemojo made a mistake. Why was it so expensive? That's just insane. Didnt they learn anythng from Brooks' 80 million Spanglish? Why was As Good As It Gets even costing 50 million? the movie took place in an apartment most of time and a few scenes in Baltimore.
Reshoots. Brooks had final cut and would constantly rework and reshoot scenes long after principal photography had finished. Also, the leads had huge salaries ($50 million of the budget went towards the four leads).

Another one: Town and Country. It cost $90 million (in 1999 dollars) but looks like it could have been produced for $5 million.

I also never understood how Children of Men could have cost $80 million. Danny Boyle made 28 Days Later for $8 million and they have pretty much the same look in terms of showing the money.

And there's the case of Almost Famous somehow costing $60 million (some sources had listed $35 million though). That could have been made for much cheaper (Richard Linklater could make a similar film for $8-10 million).
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Green Lantern is the first one that comes to mind. $200M budget and it actually wasn't that effect-heavy I thought, and what was there looked pretty "meh".
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Lots gets eaten up by the extremely highly compensated actors/actresses. Drives me crazy that people piss and moan about atheletes making good coin but they seem to have no problem with stiffs like Leo Dicrappio or whomever pocketing $30 million per film for what amounts to "phone-in" performances.

Gimme a break.
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Friday the 13th (2009) 19m. (Outrageous for a straightforward slasher in the woods movie with no big stars)

Scream 4/40m.
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Didn't Spider-Man 3 cost like $300m? Take another look at that first Hobgoblin fight... yikes.
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:22 PM   #14
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Lots gets eaten up by the extremely highly compensated actors/actresses. Drives me crazy that people piss and moan about atheletes making good coin but they seem to have no problem with stiffs like Leo Dicrappio or whomever pocketing $30 million per film for what amounts to "phone-in" performances.

Gimme a break.
That's exactly right. Salaries for the talent can be huge and where lots of the money goes.
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I also never understood how Children of Men could have cost $80 million. Danny Boyle made 28 Days Later for $8 million and they have pretty much the same look in terms of showing the money.
Really? Children of Men has a six minute action take shot on film. That alone probably cost more than 28 Days Later. Boyle definitely made good use of funds, but I don't think Cuaron was wasteful. I love both films, but Children of Men, even on DVD, is much better looking.
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Really? Children of Men has a six minute action take shot on film. That alone probably cost more than 28 Days Later. Boyle definitely made good use of funds, but I don't think Cuaron was wasteful. I love both films, but Children of Men, even on DVD, is much better looking.
They used to have long takes done on film for way less than $8 million. And Cuaron blew much of the budget on a camera system that had no practical use whatsoever on any other film (this was for what I remember some people online years ago calling "the obviously CGI ping pong ball scene").

Other than that, that movie could have been easily produced on a much smaller budget. There are hardly any big action sequences, most of the big stars' roles are glorified cameos (Michael Caine's final scene is pretty lame) and most of the feel is atmosphere. Did this really need to cost $80 million? You could go to some grimy council estates or depressed towns in North England or Scotland, film on handhelds and you've have the same effect on a fraction of the budget.
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How Do You Know is a perfect example unless boxofficemojo made a mistake. Why was it so expensive? That's just insane. Didnt they learn anythng from Brooks' 80 million Spanglish? Why was As Good As It Gets even costing 50 million? the movie took place in an apartment most of time and a few scenes in Baltimore.
Jack Nicholson probably got a huge chunk of the $50 million budget for As Good as it Gets.
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For example I believe Inception cost £200 Mil yet apart from jetting to a few different countries i cannot for the life of me see what the money was spent on.
Perhaps the revolving corridors, collapsible sets, huge explosions, snowy mountain stunts, the folding cities, the freight train running through the centre of the city and the multi-mil price tag for DiCaprio had something to do with it.
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Perhaps the revolving corridors, collapsible sets, huge explosions, snowy mountain stunts, the folding cities, the freight train running through the centre of the city and the $50 mill price tag for DiCaprio had something to do with it.
Honestly, for a big blockbuster movie it felt small to me. None of what you've mentioned IMO would justify a $200Mil budget. It's all stuff that's been done before, cheaper too. I mean What We Do in the Shadows had a revolving corridor scene, and that movie had an extremely low budget. Direct to DVD movies have huge explosions in them, they don't cost $200Mil. I've seen modestly budgeted movies with CG equal to Inceptions.

$50 Mil for Dicaprio is insane though.

That said i just picked a couple of examples at random, ones where I felt the money wasn't up on the screen, i don't want this thread to turn into people trying to prove me wrong for my examples, i am more interested in other (better) examples, such as the one above.

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Honestly, for a big blockbuster movie it felt small to me. None of what you've mentioned IMO would justify a $200Mil budget. It's all stuff that's been done before, cheaper too.

$50 Mil for Dicaprio is insane though.

That said i just picked a couple of examples at random, ones where I felt the money wasn't up on the screen, i don't want this thread to turn into people trying to prove me wrong for my examples, i am more interested in other (better) examples, such as the one above.
$50 mill digit was wrong, he actual took a price cut for it in return for some of the profit and ended up $50 Mill + in pocket. That said, it's still a lavishly designed film, it's like saying you can't see the money that went into Skyfall because it wasn't VFX heavy, there's a ridiculous amount of money put into set and costume design over digital spaceships and robots.
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