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Old 12-22-2009, 06:08 PM   #1
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i'm looking to get a pioneer blu ray player, but i'm unsure which to get. at best buy right now, the 23fd is is $250, or i can get the bdp320 for a little cheaper than that. with the samsung plasma i have, i don't think i will notice much of a difference with pq between them. any input would be appreciated.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:53 PM   #2
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I keep coming across alotta talk of the bdp 23fd being $250.00 but the site says $499.99 every time i check it is this some kinda walk in deal only?
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:04 PM   #3
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I got my 23fd for $299 plus $30 worth of blu movies and thought that was an excellent deal. At $250, run don't walk.
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Old 12-22-2009, 11:25 PM   #4
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There is only one main difference between the 23fd and the 320. That's in the analog output of the player. The 320 uses one DAC for each of the left and right channels, including the surrounds and rear. The 23fd includes a Burr-Brown DAC for each channel separately. So, if you are planning on using the analog outputs, then the 23fd is the superior choice. If you plan on bitstreaming your audio output to the receiver, you should probably save some money and get the 320.

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Old 12-23-2009, 01:38 AM   #5
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Where is this 23fd for $250?
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:01 AM   #6
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There is only one main difference between the 23fd and the 320. That's in the analog output of the player. The 320 uses one DAC for each of the left and right channels, including the surrounds and rear. The 23fd includes a Burr-Brown DAC for each channel separately. So, if you are planning on using the analog outputs, then the 23fd is the superior choice. If you plan on bitstreaming your audio output to the receiver, you should probably save some money and get the 320.

Hope that helps.
I did not know that. So are they equal for 2 channel analog, atleast?
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Old 12-23-2009, 02:24 AM   #7
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I did not know that. So are they equal for 2 channel analog, atleast?
As far as I know, yes. They both use Burr-Browns, but the 23FD uses 1 per channel vs. 1 per side.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:32 AM   #8
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Where is this 23fd for $250?
The store would be Best Buy but the according to another thread the price isn't confirmed.
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:11 AM   #9
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As far as I know, yes. They both use Burr-Browns, but the 23FD uses 1 per channel vs. 1 per side.
Ok, thanks for the info.

Nice speaker, btw. I run the same ones. 6T6 Towers, 6T6 Center and 4 A3-5TC Bookshelves for surrounds and a home made A2-300 sealed.
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:17 AM   #10
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There is only one main difference between the 23fd and the 320. That's in the analog output of the player. The 320 uses one DAC for each of the left and right channels, including the surrounds and rear. The 23fd includes a Burr-Brown DAC for each channel separately. So, if you are planning on using the analog outputs, then the 23fd is the superior choice. If you plan on bitstreaming your audio output to the receiver, you should probably save some money and get the 320.

Hope that helps.
i'm going to use hdmi to the receiver. but someone was telling me the processor in the 23fd was superior. forgive my ignorance, but i don't know a whole lot about the processors. to be honest, until recently, i didn't realize there was much of a picture difference in the various blu ray players.

and ya, don't quote me on the best buy price. i'm just saying that i could've sworn i saw that price at my local store. check out your local mag store.
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Old 12-23-2009, 05:22 AM   #11
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i'm going to use hdmi to the receiver. but someone was telling me the processor in the 23fd was superior. forgive my ignorance, but i don't know a whole lot about the processors. to be honest, until recently, i didn't realize there was much of a picture difference in the various blu ray players.

and ya, don't quote me on the best buy price. i'm just saying that i could've sworn i saw that price at my local store. check out your local mag store.
Seems quite a few people have found the 23 for that price, at BB.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:17 AM   #12
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Where is this 23fd for $250?
Best Buy while supplies last and that deal is until the 26th of DEC,
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The store would be Best Buy but the according to another thread the price isn't confirmed.
That price is being confirmed Now!
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:30 PM   #14
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i'm going to use hdmi to the receiver. but someone was telling me the processor in the 23fd was superior. forgive my ignorance, but i don't know a whole lot about the processors. to be honest, until recently, i didn't realize there was much of a picture difference in the various blu ray players.

and ya, don't quote me on the best buy price. i'm just saying that i could've sworn i saw that price at my local store. check out your local mag store.
The only difference on the video processor is that the 23FD allows for more "tweaking" of the picture. It gives you options to change the various color filters and output characteristics. I personally, prefer to change most of these on the TV, instead of the player, so that is something you should consider.

Using HDMI to output video and sound, you'll probably be better off getting the 320. But if you can find a 23FD for $250, then I might jump on that as well. It gives you the opportunity to play a little more, like on the audio outputs, and see if one sounds better to you than the other. I like the audio output of the player, so that's how I have mine hooked up, sending audio out over the multi-channel output. It also allows you to change video characteristics, to see what is more pleasing to you.

If I could have gotten my 23FD for $250, I would have been very happy. However, being in Canada, and specifically Calgary, there is only one store that carries Elite products. I still got a good deal, but not THAT good.
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:12 PM   #15
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thanks for all the input, everyone. i'm learning a lot from this forum.
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Old 12-26-2009, 03:30 AM   #16
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The store would be Best Buy but the according to another thread the price isn't confirmed.
It's confirmed because I bought the 23fd for $249.99 /BB, Magnolia store only.
I understand it's good thru tomorrow. Fab deal I couldn't believe.

I love this player!

The 320 is $227.
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Old 12-26-2009, 06:53 AM   #17
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It's confirmed because I bought the 23fd for $249.99 /BB, Magnolia store only.
I understand it's good thru tomorrow. Fab deal I couldn't believe.

I love this player!

The 320 is $227.
23fd for $250? Get it...don't hesistate. Pay the extra for it over the 320. That price is ridiculous.
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Old 12-26-2009, 03:40 PM   #18
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Hey guys, just stumbled on this today. Thinking of buying a 2nd BR player for my 32" lcd in the bedroom, and was looking hard at the 320 Pio. I have a BD35 now, and planned to move it to the bedroom (do not figure the Pio has better PQ, but I expect the AQ is better).

Thanks for any input. I had considered the Samsung 3600, but their quality scares me sometimes.
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Old 12-27-2009, 01:46 PM   #19
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Enyone having doubts or esitant about this player don't. This is the real deal. Since Bluray been around I have tried almost all brand. And this is yet the best player on the market for it's price. I did get it at Best Buy Magnolia for $250. If they don't have it in stock it can be ordered from the warehouse and shipped to your door. This unit is everything bluray has to offer, from 7.1 codec to profile 2.0 to ethernet update. PQ is second to none, sound is excelent. This is one of the most flexible player to date. It is so good, make me want to buy another for the bedroom at this price.

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Onkyo Tx 875B Receiver
Definitive Mythos one main
Definitive Mythos three center
Definitive Bpx1 surround
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Definitive Super Cube 1
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Old 12-27-2009, 02:10 PM   #20
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Can somebody please tell me how to get this deal? It says $499

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstempl...A%3E1900-01-01
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