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Old 08-18-2007, 09:09 AM   #1
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When will 1080p-capable camcorders be hitting store shelves as it seems most available ones now only go to 1080i (or, at least ones that don't cost a bundle and a half)?
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:25 AM   #2
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A very long time for a true 1080p camcorder, one that isn't doing it through faking anyway, and you'll pay out the nose for it
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:40 AM   #3
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I know this isn't answering your question, but I bought the Sony HDR-HC5 1080i HDV camcorder and it freakin rocks! Earlier, I bought a $300 Panasonic SD camcorder and 2 months later when I watched the tapes, they were pure rubbish. Sure the Sony was about $1,100, but if you have the cash, it's worth it.
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Old 12-18-2007, 06:21 PM   #4
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I have the earlier HDV camera, the HDR-HC1 and I agree the quality is great. Even with a 52" 1080p set, and a fast pan (which I try to avoid), the "motion blur" from interlacing is really too small to see at a 7 foot distance.

I believe that the day they tip the last 24 frame theatre projector into the dumpster (estimate: 5 years), no one will care about 24p. If there is any quality edge, it will only be apparent under studio contditions (slow pans, stedicam or dolly), and nothing we will match shooting things informally.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:42 PM   #5
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The only camera that will do 1080p is the Panasonic P2
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:30 PM   #6
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I got a new electronics magazine at hand , and it shows the Canon HG10, HR10, and HV20 as 1080p
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:31 PM   #7
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:36 PM   #8
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I believe that the day they tip the last 24 frame theatre projector into the dumpster (estimate: 5 years), no one will care about 24p. If there is any quality edge, it will only be apparent under studio contditions (slow pans, stedicam or dolly), and nothing we will match shooting things informally.
A lot longer than that, and all films being shot digital shoot 24p

I got a new electronics magazine at hand , and it shows the Canon HG10, HR10, and HV20 as 1080p

They shoot 1080i, but if you move it to P, it cuts it down to 1440x1080

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For the money, though, the HG10 delivers a pretty well-rounded set of features. The 3-megapixel CMOS chip shoots native 1,920x1,080 HD video, which then gets downconverted and interlaced to 1,440x1,080 AVCHD. It can also shoot 1,440x1,080/24p, although support for this flavor of the format is even more limited than that of vanilla AVCHD).
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:39 PM   #9
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What about the new Hitachi Blu-ray camcorder? Is it any good. I am getting married in 8 months and am looking for a great camcorder and it would be even better if it would record on blu-rays.
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:08 PM   #10
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Here's a good rule of thumb:

If it's under $3-3500, and it claims 1080p, it's faking it somehow for sure
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:34 AM   #11
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Here's a good rule of thumb:

If it's under $3-3500, and it claims 1080p, it's faking it somehow for sure
Does anyone know about the Canon HV20 High Definition Camcorder? Is it 1080i or 1080p, as some sites say it's 1080p.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:47 AM   #12
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If it's under $3-3500, and it claims 1080p, it's faking it somehow for sure
Depends on what you mean by "faking". There are several HDV camcorders out there that does true 1080p HDV. They are not faking anything at all, but it is HDV, which is 1440x1080 with a matching PAR. The Canon HV20 (and 30 now) is a fantastic camcorder with an amazing picture. Anything I have shot on tripod with my HV20 is noticeable better quality than what you get on HD broadcast today.
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Old 02-25-2008, 09:48 AM   #13
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Does anyone know about the Canon HV20 High Definition Camcorder? Is it 1080i or 1080p, as some sites say it's 1080p.
It's 1080p,and it is so for less than $1K. Now, when it comes to real lines of resolution, knowing that is a science in and of it self. I can tell you this though. The output from an HV20 will satisfy you on a 1080p TV, more so than HD broadcast does.
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Old 02-25-2008, 05:31 PM   #14
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I liked the look of the hitachi BD cam, be good when 100GB BD REs come out.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:10 PM   #15
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The Hitachi camera sucks. Better off with the Sony HDR-SR11. 1080p on solid state and HDD. The Sony PMW-EX1 is a much better camera than the Panny P2. Sony know where it's at with camcorders... after all, they do make the HDCAM-SR 4:4:4
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:07 AM   #16
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It's 1080p,and it is so for less than $1K. Now, when it comes to real lines of resolution, knowing that is a science in and of it self. I can tell you this though. The output from an HV20 will satisfy you on a 1080p TV, more so than HD broadcast does.
There is also the HG10 with the same optics, but with an HDD. I got mine for less than $1k at a local camera store. Cannon is suppose to have better image stabilization than the Sony, but I'm not sure if I could tell the difference.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:06 PM   #17
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Here's a good rule of thumb:

If it's under $3-3500, and it claims 1080p, it's faking it somehow for sure
I'll take a $3 camcorder faking 1080p over a camcorder that does 1080p that cost > $4000.
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:20 PM   #18
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guys I know about HD Camcorders quite a bit.


NONE of the Canon consumer Line (HV20/30,HF10/100) do 1080p.. they are all 1920x1080i Full HD. The Sony SR-11 I own is also 1080i.

Don't let the hype fool you... a good set that has a halfway decent interlacer will up your 1080i to 1080p.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:50 PM   #19
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Man, I am SO ready for an HD camcorder. Went out to Red Rocks, Colorado last week and filmed using my Canon SD camcorder. Thought it would be "okay" quality. Instead...it was awful. Junking this thing and going HD for the next trip.
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Old 08-05-2008, 08:55 PM   #20
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They are not faking anything at all, but it is HDV, which is 1440x1080 with a matching PAR
I'm sorry but what is PAR ?
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