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Old 08-16-2015, 05:10 PM   #21
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When they show up.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:37 AM   #22
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A lot of 2160p TV's have passive glasses so half the resolution gets thrown away, so you are only really getting a 1080p image anyway.
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:38 PM   #23
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A lot of 2160p TV's have passive glasses so half the resolution gets thrown away, so you are only really getting a 1080p image anyway.
Getting 3D in 1080p is already twice as good as the current passive-3D 1080p panels, where you only get 540p vertically. Even better, your horizontal resolution gets up-converted from 1920 to 3840. So, regarding passive-3D, the 4K panels outshine the 1080p displays fourfold, AFAIK. But please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:53 AM   #24
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Last I heard was, now that the 4K 'standard' had been agreed and published, 'official' to-standard TVs and players were expected to start hitting the shops about Christmas this year. Presumably early discs will appear about the same time.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:37 PM   #25
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When do you think we will see 3D compatible UHD/4K players and Blu-rays?
Probably not till 8K hits, which would have the capacity for 3D 4K discs.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:13 PM   #26
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Unfortunately never because it's not part of the official UHD spec. Although current UHD players play 3D blurays just fine.

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Old 02-19-2018, 09:26 AM   #27
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Unfortunately never because it's not part of the official UHD spec. Although current UHD players play 3D blurays just fine.

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Not all of them. I think the latest Samsung 4K player dropped 3D support. Avoid the Samsung UBD-M9500 player at all costs if you want 3D.
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:44 PM   #28
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Not all of them. I think the latest Samsung 4K player dropped 3D support. Avoid the Samsung UBD-M9500 player at all costs if you want 3D.
Well that sucks. They really are trying way to hard to kill this format. I have the Oppo udp 203

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Old 02-19-2018, 02:48 PM   #29
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They really are trying way to hard to kill this format.

The format is "dead" for home use for the most part, nobody is "trying" to kill it, it was abandoned well over a year ago for the most part.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:03 PM   #30
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They really are trying way to hard to kill this format.

The format is "dead" for home use for the most part, nobody is "trying" to kill it, it was abandoned well over a year ago for the most part.
Did you abandon it?
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:57 PM   #31
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Did you abandon it?
He abandoned the forum....well kinda.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:32 PM   #32
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3D Bluray came in 2011. At that time Backlit of TVs were CCFL on both the sides Philips, LG, Sony etc. They were trying to change backlit with Back-illuminated with LEDs in array back of LCD ie, TVs were Thick to 6 inches. There were issues in contrast as the LEDs diffused light illuminates the dark part of picture. Than they changed LED array to sides by sides using light guides backlights and diffusers with third party local dimming Results good upto 2k.
But as the size had increased from 55 inches to 156 inches and resolution upto 4k to 10k they require more light intensity. They came with OLED self-glowing pixels with increased brightness and refresh rate of a frame from 24 to 60 or Even higher for 3D films.
So now its good time for companies who are in favour to customers to enjoy 3D with Large 3D 4k to 10K 120" TVs for home. Like SONY, PANASONIC and LG to finalize 3D specs for blu-rays as 128 GB-BDXL and HDMI-2.1v data to transfer from player to TVs is available. to enjoy 3D at home. Even DLP 0.9" DMD with Blu-laser with Phosphorus projector Light intensity had increased to enjoy watching 3D 4k-8k with more POP-Out Illuminated.
Wait for a little 3D coming again to home-cinema with more PUNCH

Note: watching 3D on 32,40, 46" doesn't give pop-out if you sitting at 10 feet away. The effect due to screen Width collapse at 4 feet. So at that time TVs were expensive and low refresh rate and low light intensity couldn't charm customers to invest in 3d. Only Enthus... bought TVs and projector This Hindrance the sale of 3D tvs and projectors of 15' screen.
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Sony Sony-hvo4000mt is performing well in Medical Industry for recording surgeries in 4K-3d. SONY is keen and waiting for Finalization of 4K UHD 3D Bluray player Universal norms with BDXL disc support and HDMI-Ver-2.1 so it can handle Higher bandwidth data without any inference. Engine chip and graphics GPU also expensive. Costly parts Hinderance at present for mass production. Even some countries people can't buy SONY UBP-x800. just 400$ machine. Because conversion from $ to local currency make difference. So all these dedicated companies had to see how cost-cutting without compromising on quality mass people buy. You see in some countries 4k UHD spiderman homecoming bluray disc is INR-5000/- So people see on the Internet or Amazon Prime. Now how companies can run their units.
This is delaying. Even in India till now Sony UHD-X800 not launched.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:56 PM   #34
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They really are trying way to hard to kill this format.

The format is "dead" for home use for the most part, nobody is "trying" to kill it, it was abandoned well over a year ago for the most part.
All those millions of 3D blu-rays that have been bought by consumers are still there, and when their current 3D TVs burn out, they will become coasters? That makes no sense. I've read it doesn't cost manufacturers much to have 3D support in a TV. it better make a comeback eventually. I've been buying 3D movies for a while even though i don't have a 3d TV. i figured I'd get one when I finally need a new TV. Well now i do, and I'm SOL. I'll still hang on to them with hopes for the future though.

I know someone is going to make a comparison to 8-track tape players no longer being made, and the tapes becoming useless or something liek that.
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Old 06-03-2018, 12:35 AM   #35
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Don't count 3D out yet. It has a history of coming back again and again. I'm sure it will crest again. But then it is not really gone. Almost every big movie has a 3d version playing in theatres. That is because 3D is still very big in other countries. However there are still many fans of the process in America and I am one of them with over 250 titles in my collection.
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Passive 3D TV needs add more two polarizer for left and right eye and cause reduce resolution up to 30%.
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Old 06-26-2018, 09:47 AM   #37
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They really are trying way to hard to kill this format.

The format is "dead" for home use for the most part, nobody is "trying" to kill it, it was abandoned well over a year ago for the most part.
In the US, I believe that is mostly the case, for now, but in the UK 3D steelbooks are sold alongside 4K steelbooks (and sometimes there is s 3K steel release even if there is not a 4K steel).

FWIW I have just gone 4K AND 3D at the same time (my Panasonic TV is 4K and plays 3D BDs and the sony player was chosen because it supports 4K, 3D and now, via a firmware update Dolby Vision - though manually turning on DV will diable it's ability to recognise 3D regular BDs - plus it is hardware modded to multi-region everything).
My only problem is my Receiver has older HDMI ports so cannot pass 4K through to the TV so I have to send sound to the Receiver and image to the TV separately (though this is a pain on the 'combined control' it does actually improve quality marginally).

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I can't grasp the logic behind dropping support for 3D on recent sets, if you can do 4K, the processing power is there for 1080p 3D and the software already exists.

LG Passive 3D is exceptional, 3D glasses don't have to be in included and can simply be bought separately for those who wish to use it.

The only cost I can see is the FPR (film pattern retarder) on the display which would negligible relative to a £2-3K TV set. People say the FPR effects brightness but again, the effect seems negligible. It seems to me support was dropped because it's simply unfashionable and to save mere pennies.

After the industry pushed it so hard and considering the format is still seeing releases. I think they have the responsibility to at least maintain legacy support for 1080p 3D; for those who like it, even if it is at a premium, limited to a handful of models and the glasses are an optional accessory. Dropping legacy support entirely is quite frankly backwards, and a big FU to those who supported the format.

While it certainly had its detractors, I don't think 3D dwindled like it did simply because of an inherent dislike of 3D but due to misinformation and poor quality control, greed and short-term thinking. It was massively mishandled, it seems we can't have nice things..
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I can't grasp the logic behind dropping support for 3D on recent sets, if you can do 4K, the processing power is there for 1080p 3D and the software already exists.

LG Passive 3D is exceptional, 3D glasses don't have to be in included and can simply be bought separately for those who wish to use it.

The only cost I can see is the FPR (film pattern retarder) on the display which would negligible relative to a £2-3K TV set. People say the FPR effects brightness but again, the effect seems negligible. It seems to me support was dropped because it's simply unfashionable and to save mere pennies.

After the industry pushed it so hard and considering the format is still seeing releases. I think they have the responsibility to at least maintain legacy support for 1080p 3D; for those who like it, even if it is at a premium, limited to a handful of models and the glasses are an optional accessory. Dropping legacy support entirely is quite frankly backwards, and a big FU to those who supported the format.

While it certainly had its detractors, I don't think 3D dwindled like it did simply because of an inherent dislike of 3D but due to misinformation and poor quality control, greed and short-term thinking. It was massively mishandled, it seems we can't have nice things..
Just quoting because every word of this is true and it's worth being read again.
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Samsung Quits 4K Blu-ray Player Market

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Samsung has confirmed to me today that it is no longer going to be making any new models of 4K Blu-ray player.

Rumors that this was going to happen have been circulating for months. One or two dealers let slip that they’d been told not to expect any more players, and new 4K Blu-ray player models were conspicuously absent from Samsung’s stands at both the IFA show in Berlin last August and the CES in Las Vegas in January.
That did not take long , how long before we see any 4k is dead threads like we did with 3D.

With so many 8k TVs coming out and possible glasses free 3D TVs around the corner, it will be interesting to see how long 4K lasts.

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/technologies/dolby-3d.html

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