Watching 3D Movies on VR (Virtual Reality) Headsets

[joewolf]

Originally Posted by cdx47

But as you yourself have seen, the issue is not VD which is just a viewing window, the issue is the viewing software. However you could try Skybox VR instead of using VD. The picture might be a little over sharp but it's much better than MPC with VD. But Skybox doesn't allow passthrough audio so after I failed to match the Skybox picture quality using MPC with VD I switched to using MPV with VD. The results at least matched Skybox VR and in someways are better because I have total control over the configuration. The picture quality is so much better with clear 3D layering, better 3D depth and just an improved 3D viewing experience.

Thanks, I'll check out MPV! Is there a specific configuration to ensure the 3D effect is strong or should it work well out of the box?

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by joewolf

Thanks, I'll check out MPV! Is there a specific configuration to ensure the 3D effect is strong or should it work well out of the box?

It should be better out of the box but it is very (very) basic. There is an osd but no menu or gui to speak of. It's basically just a display engine. But there is documentation at mpv.io that will give you all the configuration info you will ever need. There's also dozens of scripts adding more functionality and features. It's a very deep rabbit hole once you start investigating If you want an easier life then you can use a gui like smplayer which you can configure to use MPV as its display engine but offers some of the best options from mpv pre-configured as menu items.

I also use SmoothVideo Project's 60Hz software interpolation which didn't make much difference when I used MPC. But with MPV the increase in 3D picture clarity delivers on James Cameron's HFR promise. I feel I'm no longer watching events unfold on a screen, but instead I'm looking at them through an open window. I can't wait to watch Avatar 2 in 3D HFR

[cdx47]

For anyone who is interested (probably just me) the Virtual Desktop developer has released a Beta version which enables 10 bit HEVC encoding (also 400Mb/s h264 encoding if you have a Quest 2). This improves picture quality is by significantly reducing banding and with each improvement in picture quality, there is a noticeable improvement in 3D layering for movies with weaker 3D.

[b_scott]

Apple just announced Vision PRO VR/AR googles, with 3D movie support:

11:39 am "There is no other device in the world that can deliver this quality of 3D movie experience."
11:38 am You can watch it on an airplane. 3D movies have depth and motion.

[BobbyMcGee]

Originally Posted by b_scott

Apple just announced Vision PRO VR/AR googles, with 3D movie support:

11:39 am "There is no other device in the world that can deliver this quality of 3D movie experience."
11:38 am You can watch it on an airplane. 3D movies have depth and motion.

Youtube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E

3D is mentioned @ 1 hour 40 minutes into the video.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by joewolf

Thanks, I'll check out MPV! Is there a specific configuration to ensure the 3D effect is strong or should it work well out of the box?

Originally Posted by cdx47

It should be better out of the box but it is very (very) basic. There is an osd but no menu or gui to speak of. It's basically just a display engine. But there is documentation at mpv.io that will give you all the configuration info you will ever need. ... I can't wait to watch Avatar 2 in 3D HFR

A week+ ago I finally finished watching Avatar 2. I noticed that when I am using SVP with AI, this movie stresses my GPU more than any other, and I'm only using half the disc bit-rate.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by BobbyMcGee

Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E

3D is mentioned @ 1 hour 40 minutes into the video.

At $3,499, I'm gonna have to pass.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by cdx47

A week+ ago I finally finished watching Avatar 2. I noticed that when I am using SVP with AI, this movie stresses my GPU more than any other, and I'm only using half the disc bit-rate.

Have you been using the RIFE AI interpolation with SVP for Av2?

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Have you been using the RIFE AI interpolation with SVP for Av2?

Yep and even at half bitrate it was pushing my gpu quite hard, but that's partly because I am watching in VR. If I was watching on TV then many of the issues I've had wouldn't exist. It didn't help that there's a bug in my software player with Atmos. Anyway it's all sorted now

[Socko]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

At $3,499, I'm gonna have to pass.

Yeah, I was all in for it and then the price came... I laughed and turned off the presentation.

[cdx47]

Every time I assume that I have achieved the best picture possible (with the equipment I have) I turn out to be wrong. For anyone using VR with an Nvidia card I would recommend enabling Nvidia DSR.

For those who are interested (again probably just me) I have been using Catmull-Rom in combination with an unsharp filter. But with DSR I no longer need the filter.

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by cdx47

Every time I assume that I have achieved the best picture possible (with the equipment I have) I turn out to be wrong. For anyone using VR with an Nvidia card I would recommend enabling Nvidia DSR.

For those who are interested (again probably just me) I have been using Catmull-Rom in combination with an unsharp filter. But with DSR I no longer need the filter.

Does your VR headset do foveated rendering? It's really weird on PSVR1, gotta be a way to turn it off that I have yet to find.

Is DSR related to Nvidia's realtime AI upscale?

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Does your VR headset do foveated rendering? It's really weird on PSVR1, gotta be a way to turn it off that I have yet to find.

Is DSR related to Nvidia's realtime AI upscale?

It does FOV but there is a 3rd party tool on my PC to turn it off. I don't always remember to turn it off because the default setting for my device is OK. As for DSR, it looks like it's basically an advanced form of the Super Sampling tech used in VR.

[Tricks-OR-Treats]

Hello, want to introduce myself and talk about Bigscreen VR.

My background as a PC Gamer, from CRT's to LED to 3D Nvidia Monitors now days OLED Ultra Wide. Plus I've still have 3D TV's in the house and under (75) 3D Blu-ray's.

Well of course I jumped on VR with Rift CV1, Rift S, HTC Vive, HTC Vive Pro, Valve Index and my last one Quest 2.

So about 2 years back I finally tried Bigscreen VR. I was "WOW" how good and comfortable it was to watch movies in the Theater Environments. I found my way to the 3D Films that BS has for rent by Paramount.

I'm like, Hell I got those 3D Blu-rays I've not watched in years! So I've taught myself how to make Digital Rips of my 3D into HSBS then FSBS. I learned about PC Plex Home Server was an easy way to watch my 3D on the internal Bigscreen Player by myself.

Then I got the itch to become a PC Desktop Streamer on Bigscreen and run a Public Room just for 3D Movies. So over time using HW I had already and some trial and error along with talking to other Bigscreen Streamers. I love to Host 3D Movies and do it nearly daily and on Weekends.

My Collection has grown to over 500+ 3D Movies (ton of Auto Conversions). I even have been doing my own 2D-3D Converts with paid AI Software approx 150 Titles.

Best part is I do all this with no VR Headset connected to the PC known as "Headless". I do however join my own Stream Room with Quest 2 to watch and Moderate my Bigscreen Room. If anyone else here is interested in Streaming Movies on Bigscreen Contact me. I would love to partner up with some folks!

[Tricks-OR-Treats]

Bigscreen VR and Streaming 3-D Anaglyph, YUP I've Done it!

I have a love for 3-D Anaglyph also. Bigscreen doesn't support it like say SkyBox does. So in my experiments I just put the cardboard glasses over my VR Lens. Streamed with Plex DLNA (personal viewing) or VLC Player (User Public Room) Totally Cheesy but works!

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Tricks-OR-Treats

Hello, want to introduce myself and talk about Bigscreen VR.

Nice to meet you
I have a large Steam library but I've never really played any of the games. Apparently this is very common My set up is geared towards AV rather than games. Long story short, for watching 3D movies I use Virtual Desktop. My PC media player was MPC-BE+MadVR+SVP then MPV+SVP with Rife AI and currently Plex HTPC+MPV+SVP with Rife AI.

I've used Bigscreen and it has improved A LOT! But I would hate to have to sign in to BS all the time to watch a movie. Plus I always want the absolute best sound and picture quality possible hence moving from mpc-be to mpv. My PC is connected to my AV receiver which is connected to my Sub, mini-dsp and transducer. It sounds a lot more complicated than it is in reality

[Tricks-OR-Treats]

Originally Posted by cdx47

Nice to meet you: My PC media player was MPC-BE+MadVR+SVP then MPV+SVP with Rife AI and currently Plex HTPC+MPV+SVP with Rife AI

Yes Bigscreen has made many improvements which means for 3D Streaming I went a bit beefer on the PC Specs to keep up. I however have found just 2 easy steps for converting 3D Blu-Ray's ready for Bigsreen Streaming. MakeMKV + Potplayer

MakeMVK of the 3D Blu-ray (framed packed) .mkv file which are huge 32GB on average. I can view both 2D and 3D as is with players.

2D I use Plex Media Player (across my home network not 3D Ready) or VLC Player on PC Monitors.

3D I use Potplayer 64 bit with ENABLE H.264 MVC 3D Decoder. Potplayer does the SBS for me!

Since Bigscreen VR is stereo I don't do anything extra on the PC Audio for those streams.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Tricks-OR-Treats

Yes Bigscreen has made many improvements which means for 3D Streaming I went a bit beefer on the PC Specs to keep up. I however have found just 2 easy steps for converting 3D Blu-Ray's ready for Bigsreen Streaming. MakeMKV + Potplayer

MakeMVK of the 3D Blu-ray (framed packed) .mkv file which are huge 32GB on average. I can view both 2D and 3D as is with players.

2D I use Plex Media Player (across my home network not 3D Ready) or VLC Player on PC Monitors.

3D I use Potplayer 64 bit with ENABLE H.264 MVC 3D Decoder. Potplayer does the SBS for me!

Since Bigscreen VR is stereo I don't do anything extra on the PC Audio for those streams.

The easiest way to way to watch 3D blu-ray rips is the use Virtual Desktop and mpc-be. That's literally all you need. It's the way I used to watch all my 3D discs. The story as to why I changed is in this thread somewhere, so I won't go through that again. Suffice to say I went a bit overboard to get the best audio, best picture quality while saving 2TB of disc space. Yes I also beefed up my PC

Nice to meet someone else on the 3D VR train

[Tricks-OR-Treats]

There is another VR Product I use with Bigscreen VR. I call it the 4th Dimension in 3D Movie Watching a Haptics Wireless Vest!

With a 3.5 mm Y-Jack plugged into the Quest 2 Audio Jack. Run one to the bHaptic Tactsuit connect the other to say either a pair of wired Ear Buds or Wired Headphones. The Vest is Bluetooth so I open my Mobile App by bHaptic and the Audio will be filtered by A-T-H (audio-to-haptic) customizable audio profile. I made just for certain 3D Movies I watch in Bigscreen VR.



Here's a the list of 3D Movies I made A-T-H for (Quest 2) they are all Public on the Mobile App for anyone to Alter or Use as is.




If your a PCVR user there is the PC bHaptic Studio Software. We are allowed to upload our PCVR Profiles of A-T-H on the Official Discord.





Most people don't use the bHaptic Vest in Bigscreen VR or for Watching Movies. I just like to dabble in all things VR

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Tricks-OR-Treats

There is another VR Product I use with Bigscreen VR. I call it the 4th Dimension in 3D Movie Watching a Haptics Wireless Vest!
...
Most people don't use the bHaptic Vest in Bigscreen VR or for Watching Movies. I just like to dabble in all things VR

Very nice
I do something similar with a mini-dsp for Bass EQ ( aka “BEQ”) which alters the ULF/LFE EQ of the many movies that have had their lower frequencies severely filtered. The mini-dsp can be connected to a sub(s), hover-boss platform or tactile bass transducers, aka chair shakers. Mine is connected to a ButKicker mini. There's an on-line library of literally hundreds of movies and TV shows that have already been added to the BEQ database. More info here: Bass EQ for Filtered Movies

3D+Atmos(DTS:x)+BEQ = 4DVR