Ways to Watch a 3D Blu-ray Without a 3D TV

[tripletopper]

Hello is this the last page of the add-on 3D section. Just wanted to tell you I got my video games working with a VGA monitor using an HDMI to VGA converter that's passive.

I heard that there are easy ways to convert crtvgas into 3D CRT vga's. I don't know if they require a computer to connect to them or if there's a standalone way to pipe directly into the VGA. I got some Blu-ray movies I want to pipe into the CRT so that I have a second 3D monitor for other people if they wish to use it. Plus even though at the time the PlayStation 3D TV was a low ping monitor in 2010, now two friends behind is considered a lot.

And yes the VGA monitor does reduce ping in video games. I heard that the only conversion needed is a ypbpr to RGB conversion, and then from there it goes pipe straight into the CRT.

Assuming the conversion is just as fast both ways, most experts say if the only change is color space change from RGB to ypbpr, on a 240p signal it only takes two PIXELS worth of time.

And yes I know CRTs are analog but they can take digital points of reference and convert them to analog waves. Digital waves are close approximations of analog waves. Videotape only has 240 points of articulation of the video signal. Or 480 if you double field it.

So does anyone know a place where I could some way to play Blu-ray movies hooked up directly to a VGA CRT without hooking it up to a computer. If not I have an Apple Macintosh by two different monitors and was wondering if the sink could be passed through directly to a CRT and have the timing right.

[tripletopper]

I don't want to sound like I'm being nitpicky, but don't active shutter glasses work on every kind of CRT TV because the Left Right sink is in time with the video display of left and right?

The reason why it works out of CRT is because there's less than microsecond delays between the time the Blu-ray spits out the start of frame signal and broadcast it to your eyes.

However modern TVs have delay. I assume the only thing you have to correct for is the difference between when the Blu-ray says start a frame and when the TV action displays the starter frame. I was thinking of some kind of $20 dongle that could go in front of the inputs on the TV which whose job is to simply sense when the start of signal comes and embed it in the audio in some way, that it could be read and then turned back into whatever the audio originally was before adding the code.

If that could happen then you could tell the difference between blue ray generation time and TV Generations time and always being sync.

If this is as easy as I think it is someone would basic TV engineering knowledge could Jimmy up a $20 device retail that could do exactly that. You see my in is easy. And then you could sell it with four out adapters One is toslink, one is coaxial, what is HDMI ARC, and one is RCA LR. This way I could turn my 2009 Bravia XBR which didn't even envision 3D at the time or my Sony Vegas which is a CRT TV into a 3D TV.

I'm pretty sure that a timing chip is most likely cheaper than a computer that calculates depths based on left eyes and right eyes and converts it into a written cyan, or in this case a blue and yellow picture.

Yeah yeah I know it's not going to turn non-3d material into 3D but who wants that usually the computer messes it up enough for you to notice the badness.

I think that'd be more interested in full color shutter 3D than there be in blue and yellow Anaglyph TV.

By the way why blue and yellow because most movies aren't in blue and yellow and you have to buy their glasses not just any Anaglyph glasses will do.

Hi,First go to the Display, BD or Video Settings of your 3D Blu-Ray player.
Once your there make sure Video Resolution is set to Auto so it can choose the best RES for when the 3D Video Wizard is hooked.
Then Disable 24p or 24hz for BD.
Turn off your 3D Player.

[lucasatakros]

Good News!!! I was just looking at the Optoma UHZ50 Projector 4K laser projector manual and it has a 3D sync connection!

I currently have the Optoma HD 25E and would like to upgrade to 4K some day but was lamenting the potential loss of 3D...... Now, I'll just have to lament the loss of $2,799!

[8traxrule]

Good price, I'm budgeting $5000 for my eventual projector which is still a long way off. But is that one a real or "fake" 4K projector? Some that claim to be 4K actually do some odd trick and don't really have 4K resolution. While I'd still rather lose 4K than 3D, I'd still like to keep it if at all possible.

[Fif22]

First of all, I apologise because this is bound to overlap with previous discussions. Although I did go through a few topics on the subject, they didn't truly enlighten me.

So, if anyone knowledgeable would be willing to guide me a bit, I would greatly appreciate it.

The thing is I never paid much attention to 3D until recently. I saw a few movies in 3D in theatres, and did like the 3D effect, but it was never really something I felt the need to have at home or anything.

However, while recently sorting out my physical media collection, I noticed I actually own quite a few 3D Blu-Ray (in some cases because the 3D/2D BD was easier to find or cheaper, in others because these were packed with the 4K UHD edition). So, I started feeling like it'd be nice to give those a try.

Although my player plays 3D BD, my TV is not 3D. Upon looking into it more carefully, I understand 3D TVs have basically been discontinued since 2016, and it is not even possible to get a TV that has both 4K and 3D.

Although I could buy an old 3D TV, I'd rather find a solution that is either cheaper or could be used for other purposes.

I understand that are converters turning a 2D TV into a 3D one. But I get the impression this solution is far from perfect and doesn't quite replicate an actual 3D TV.

I also hear that certain projectors can take inputs from Blu-Ray players and project in 3D even on a wall or ceiling, with no need for a screen.

Moreover, I recently read that it is possible to watch a 3D BD on a computer equipped with a Blu-Ray player, provided that we have a VR headset.

Any thoughts on this would be welcome. I would like to find a good solution, preferably without spending a lot.

Many thanks in advance.

[lukas741]

If my SONY T.V. 65Z9D were to break down tomorrow, I would buy a 3D projector and aim against my grey wall, where my current T.V. sits now, and make it into an 85-inch screen...no screen necessary...What projector would I buy instead...Optoma Cinemax P2 Smart 4K UHD Laser Projector for Home Theater...this does 3D as well, but, soon another model will be out...look into it. I will, of course, wait until I need to replace it, but for now, I'm OK with what I have...I do need to look into if there is an "Active or Passive" 3D glasses needed...I prefer ACTIVE due to the better picture quality...hope this helps...Oh yeah...it will cost...the best usually does...if you buy cheap you get cheap...good luck...keep me posted...with your information search and decision.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by Fif22

First of all, I apologise because this is bound to overlap with previous discussions. Although I did go through a few topics on the subject, they didn't truly enlighten me.

So, if anyone knowledgeable would be willing to guide me a bit, I would greatly appreciate it.

The thing is I never paid much attention to 3D until recently. I saw a few movies in 3D in theatres, and did like the 3D effect, but it was never really something I felt the need to have at home or anything.

However, while recently sorting out my physical media collection, I noticed I actually own quite a few 3D Blu-Ray (in some cases because the 3D/2D BD was easier to find or cheaper, in others because these were packed with the 4K UHD edition). So, I started feeling like it'd be nice to give those a try.

Although my player plays 3D BD, my TV is not 3D. Upon looking into it more carefully, I understand 3D TVs have basically been discontinued since 2016, and it is not even possible to get a TV that has both 4K and 3D.

Although I could buy an old 3D TV, I'd rather find a solution that is either cheaper or could be used for other purposes.

I understand that are converters turning a 2D TV into a 3D one. But I get the impression this solution is far from perfect and doesn't quite replicate an actual 3D TV.

I also hear that certain projectors can take inputs from Blu-Ray players and project in 3D even on a wall or ceiling, with no need for a screen.

Moreover, I recently read that it is possible to watch a 3D BD on a computer equipped with a Blu-Ray player, provided that we have a VR headset.

Any thoughts on this would be welcome. I would like to find a good solution, preferably without spending a lot.

Many thanks in advance.

https://www.projectorcentral.com/top-3d-projectors.htm

I believe that the website is always being updated, i own a TV but always try to help who comes from the dark side of the force. Just kidding.

Full HD 3D projectors are best suited for your needs if you choose to go with it. There are some 3D active and passive TVs being sold but cost almost 10x a medium range projector. Choose wise and good luck.

[Fif22]

Thank you both for your input and advice.

3D projectors sure are a bit expensive, especially at higher ranges. But I like that I'd be able to use it for everything.

I'll have to think about all of this.

With laptops now being announced with in-built 3D features, and very successful 3D films, notably the new Avatar, I wonder if 3D may see a resurgence soon, such as new 4K 3D TV sets.

[Cabanon]

I have access to an extra 3D and had the idea instead of storing it, to connect it to my PC a secondary screen to watch movies. How do I know if my PC can support this ?

[Superballs]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, as I didn't want to read through 7 pages, but once decrypted, the disk can be converted to full side by side (3840x1080) with BD3DMK3D at great quality and then muxed into a 3k MKV, then played through an app (I recommend Virtual Home Theater on Steam) on a VR Headset.

I'm not talking about an old low res headset either, the quest 2 would be BARE MINIMUM, but ideally you would want an HP Reverb G2 or something.

That said, this isn't great for social movie watching, but it provides a no compromise 3d effect, no ghosting, no darkening from polarized glasses, just crisp clear 3d on a screen as big as curved as you like.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by Superballs

...but once decrypted, the disk can be converted to full side by side (3840x1080) with BD3DMK3D at great quality and then muxed into a 3k MKV, then played through an app (I recommend Virtual Home Theater on Steam) on a VR Headset.

Once you rip the disc you can watch it native if you have a PC with a decent graphics card or convert it as suggested above to full SBS or full OU.

Originally Posted by Superballs

I'm not talking about an old low res headset either, the quest 2 would be BARE MINIMUM, but ideally you would want an HP Reverb G2 or something.

Any modern VR headset will do if you are not overly sensitive to the Screen Door Effect. If you are sensitive then a higher resolution VR solution might be a little better but usually at the cost of contrast and black levels since the screens are not OLED. Basically pick your poison. The next gen VR devices with mini LED displays will hopefully be the best of all worlds with decent contrast, proper blacks, higher resolution and little to no SDE.

Not only is VR is a viable alternative, but in some ways VR is actually better because as mentioned by the previous poster, there are no dark/polarized lenses between you and the picture. Also you can watch 3D movies on an IMAX sized screen which normally can't be done at home. Finally with your VR hmd connected to a PC and your PC connected to an AV receiver you can have Atmos/DTS:x audio too