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Old 08-24-2009, 07:36 PM   #41
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@tootall82103 so you have purchased from this site? obviously compared to infinity's actual site and other main stores this looks....well.... less legitimate. but the prices are very good. Many of them say "NEW" in the product title...yet each page talks about how they are actually refurbs, etc. just curious your thoughts on them and the product quality.

as to the question posed...much like any speakers, a lot depends where you have them placed. I did think that a couple P162 speakers I had were just on the tight side but placing them directly on the floor they have a wonderful warm and lower end of the spectrum kind of sound to them. as to the ones I have in my HT i really enjoy them and they blow away any and all of the HTIB that various friends have (even the higher end ones).
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:52 PM   #42
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I did buy my center channel from the website. The Beta C360. It was listed as new on the website and it came to me new. Still in original packaging and had all manuals and everything. Speaker was in perfect shape. I'll buy from there again.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:56 PM   #43
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I am looking for three pairs of Infinity Beta 20s and they have to be Cherry Finish

I can't find them anywhere online
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Old 09-29-2009, 12:15 PM   #44
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[QUOTE=Y?E;2365236]I am looking for three pairs of Infinity Beta 20s and they have to be Cherry Finish

I couldn't find any Beta 20s in cherry but you can pick up the the Beta C250. Should work just perfect
http://www.theaudiovideosource.com/B...rChannels.html

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Old 10-08-2009, 08:19 AM   #45
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I'm sure it's in the forums somewhere but I failed to find it. If I have am amp that puts out 200 watts per channel but my speakers are only rated for 150 watts is that automatically bad on my speakers or is it only bad when I crank the volume up? Been curious on this.
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Old 10-08-2009, 09:00 AM   #46
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I'm sure it's in the forums somewhere but I failed to find it. If I have am amp that puts out 200 watts per channel but my speakers are only rated for 150 watts is that automatically bad on my speakers or is it only bad when I crank the volume up? Been curious on this.
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You should be fine, even if you do crank the volume.
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:43 AM   #47
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Couldn't handle my favorite thread being 3 pages back.
I ordered some Beta 20s to setup as my rear channels. I'll be giving my Sony speakers to a friend. I would have liked to get the ES250s but I can't find those at all anymore.
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:26 PM   #48
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Finally! Great deal on P360s for the front. Putting the 162s as surrounds to replace the 150s. With the 350 as center and matching 8 sub I'm about to rock out my matrix 10th anniv I've been saving.
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Old 11-27-2009, 12:07 AM   #49
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Finally! Great deal on P360s for the front. Putting the 162s as surrounds to replace the 150s. With the 350 as center and matching 8 sub I'm about to rock out my matrix 10th anniv I've been saving.
Congrats! Where did you pick up your 360s? I think the Primus line is one of the best setups for the price.
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:22 PM   #50
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i did ebay. 100% positive rating seller with good number of transactions and we went back and forth a bit to make sure it was from a non smoking environment and taken care of, etc. like most times with these speakers, the deal was good ($160 for the pair) but the shipping would have killed it. except in this case after finding similar deals farther away, this was close enough that I could just pick them up for no additional cost. At that point, the "loss" of a couple years from them not being new was well worth the 2/3 savings. And since everything else I have is black its nice to not have the silver accents.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:13 PM   #51
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That's a fantastic price for the those!
I just got my Beta 20's in. I can't believe how big they are. Never bothered to look at the size specs because it was a bookshelf. My jaw dropped when I saw the box. But.. I'm glad to finally have a 5.0 Infinity Beta system now.
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Old 12-08-2009, 03:30 PM   #52
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Well I finally have the setup done for my current HT. The 360s were hooked up today (had to wait till i had a bit more wire as the locations changed a bit now that I can spread the front soundstage out more) and the 162s replaced the 150s in the back. I actually have another pair of 162s running in my living room attached to a sonos zone player so if I were ever to get a larger space more suitable for 7.1 i would be able to have all 4 surrounds matching. for now the 5.1 sounds great and works well in the room. Center is the 350 which i think made the biggest before-after difference and the only piece which seems underserved is the Sub at the matching 8inch. I have a SMALL room and its in a corner so i still rarely have it more than 50% volume plus moving up to the 10 which i would love would actually mean moving it since that small difference wouldn't fit anymore. So... I think I'm done.... [for now] (don't tell my wife I said that).

Watched the opening of Quantum of Solace last night before I even had time to re-calibrate and was blown away.
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Old 12-08-2009, 03:40 PM   #53
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Well I finally have the setup done for my current HT. The 360s were hooked up today (had to wait till i had a bit more wire as the locations changed a bit now that I can spread the front soundstage out more) and the 162s replaced the 150s in the back. I actually have another pair of 162s running in my living room attached to a sonos zone player so if I were ever to get a larger space more suitable for 7.1 i would be able to have all 4 surrounds matching. for now the 5.1 sounds great and works well in the room. Center is the 350 which i think made the biggest before-after difference and the only piece which seems underserved is the Sub at the matching 8inch. I have a SMALL room and its in a corner so i still rarely have it more than 50% volume plus moving up to the 10 which i would love would actually mean moving it since that small difference wouldn't fit anymore. So... I think I'm done.... [for now] (don't tell my wife I said that).

Watched the opening of Quantum of Solace last night before I even had time to re-calibrate and was blown away.
what were you using for fronts before?
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Old 12-08-2009, 03:56 PM   #54
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what were you using for fronts before?
the P162 pair was in the front and the P150s were in back (6.5 woofer vs 5.25 woofer)

so, i DID have 2 162s and 2 150s and NOW I have 2 360s and 2 162s.

(with 2 P150s that have been bumped out of rotation to be used in another room of the house on another Sonos zone player)

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Old 12-08-2009, 07:06 PM   #55
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Good to see more people with the P362. The center is also great. I agree it can make the most difference when upgrading. I am a big stickler for dialog sounding clean and upfront. I think the fact that it is 3 ways and 5 speakers really helps over most other centers in this price range that are 3 speakers and 2 way.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:12 PM   #56
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I am becoming a big believer in freq separation making the biggest difference. I mean, sure we all know that adding a sub brings sounds that our current speakers cannot go down to. but it ALSO takes SOME of the range the speakers could have gone down to, freeing up the speakers to put more energy behind the rest of the range. I know that's over simplifying... but that's how my mind works. So like you said with the 3-way center, for the new 360s i just put up (362s for those buying new) its not that it can hit a certain range that my previous speaker couldn't (from a technical perspective, both are infinity primus using the same exact 6.5 woofer and tweeter) ...but that it separates out the midrange and gives it to the 4inch woofer to handle, and lets the 2 larger woofers handle the rest. i feel like i am hearing more at the same time. again referencing the opening scene of Quantum of Solace, you have the growling of the engines, the squeeling of tires, the wind, the clanging of bullet casings dropping, the gunfire itself, the background music, etc. etc etc. but all of it seems so much more clear as if it were the real items causing real sound...intead of one speaker handling all of it.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:26 PM   #57
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So I was skimming through everyones gallery looking for anyone with a tv stand that houses a Beta C360. Sadly I didn't find any. What I want, eventually, is a nice wood TV stand with doors on each side and the capability to house my Onkyo 805 and my Beta C360. After much searching (at work) I have come up with this...

http://www.standoutdesigns.com/store...nsole-p322.htm

That is about the most B.A. tv stand I could find. Has plenty of options for airflow and an extender option that puts the depth at 24" which is sufficient I think for my 805 with banana plugs. It also has a large area for a center channel that measures 25-3/4" W by 9-5/8" H by 17" D. The Beta C360 is 25.6 in x 11.7 in x 8.5 in so that is pushing it to the max for width. Only downside I see is that the unit is $1400 and the extender is another $100. it's very nice from what I can see though so I'm not dogging the price of it.

Just curious if anyone has come across any selctions that would support my 2 wants for a TV stand at a lower price. I've looked at a few websites, standsandmounts, tvstands, best buy and costco.

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Old 12-20-2009, 03:37 PM   #58
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You could try checking here: http://www.racksandstands.com/TV-Stands-C14142.html

Stand Out Designs would've been my first suggestion, worth the money.

"Standout Designs offers exclusive home theater furniture direct to consumers. We standout from most other furniture companies - including some major American brands - because we build high quality, reasonably priced furniture here in the United States and we make it from genuine solid American hardwood. We use no veneer, MDF, or particleboard.

As highly functional television stands, our furniture consoles host electronics with ease through features like removable backs and discreet cable management. As highly styled furniture pieces, they aesthetically unite modern televisions with other room furnishings."

"The pedestal of the N702 Plus conceals eight swivel wheels that assist in moving the cabinet for convenient access to equipment from the rear. Plus, levelers adjustable from inside the cabinet make leveling on floors easier."

"100% Solid Wood Cabinet, Factory-Assembled in the USA
The Horizon N702 Plus is made from Pennsylvania solid lumber chosen for its beauty, strength and sustainability. You won't find any particleboard, MDF, veneer, or laminates here - even the back panel is made from responsibly-harvested American solid wood. We complement the wood with top quality finish, glass, hinges, slides, and drawer pulls.
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"Solid Construction. We construct Standout furniture using time-honored techniques, superior joinery, strong glue and screws. It arrives ready to enjoy, not assemble. With proper care, it will remain strong and beautiful for generations to come."


My next suggestion would be Salamander Designs "Synergy".
http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/syn...odelbase=snc30

It is a modular system that you can tailor to your needs. After you add accessories( extended rear, ventilation, wheels, shelves, doors, etc... ) it'll cost more than the Stand Out Designs N702.

Here are some more that meet your criteria.
Munari line: http://www.diamondcase.com/MUNARI/Mu...les/SysM1.HTML
Theater-Tech line: http://www.diamondcase.com/TT/TT_HTML_Files/TT100.HTML
http://www.diamondcase.com/TT/TT_HTML_Files/TT400.HTML

Finding a closed stand that does everything well( removable back panel, cable management, wheels, ventilation, adequate depth, good build quality ) is hard. Finding one that does it cheap, is even harder. I think that may be why so many on here use open stands( simpler to find a good one, even at a cheap price ). Good luck on your search!
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:08 PM   #59
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Thanks for all the options. I like your first suggestion. Backing up the price helps out a lot. It does look very nice and flexible for components. I'll be sure to keep an eye on it for when I get back to the states. Better start saving now. I want a 52" Sony but I'd rather have a nice piece of furniture to hold everthing first.

Also found this thread long with pictures for the Horizon N702
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=17488020

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Old 12-20-2009, 04:21 PM   #60
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I have owned Infinity 9 Kappas for 21 years, and still have not heard better speakers in their price range (below $4,000 for the pair). They were my fourth speaker upgrade, having previously owned Acoustat electrostatics, JBL 150's, and an MCS system (my first speakers). I was lucky enough to meet Arnie Nudell, the creative force behind Infinity, in 1988 when he demo'd the (then) new IRS Betas, which I still think are the best speakers ever produced (one of my friends has them). My major concern is that being a true 5-way system, the wonder caps in the crossover network will eventually deteriorate, although they still appear to be functional. Does anyone know what the life expectancy of wonder caps are?
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