iFi Digital Audio Products

[BaerGriggs]

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Originally Posted by solarrdadd

onkyo has one for the iphone, but it simply bitstreams it to an external USB DAC and then there is the issue of all the space DSD files take up so, i'm not sure on a 16gb phone one would want DSD64 that takes up about 2+gb per album.

please confirm how your using the Fii0 X5, i.e., are you playing the music and sending it out via headphone or analog out or are you sending it out via digital coax or are you using it as a USB DAC?

hope things have been well for you buddy, good to see you here thanks for stopping by; don't be a stranger!

I almost exclusively use it for headphone use. I have connected it to a 100W stereo receiver via the coaxial out a couple times and it sounded fantastic, but to be honest I'm not sure I've ever actually used the USB DAC portion. I need to get around to playing around with it a bit more over Christmas break, I've been in a tweaking and modifying kind of mood lately .

And a happy New Year to you too!

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by BaerGriggs

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I almost exclusively use it for headphone use. I have connected it to a 100W stereo receiver via the coaxial out a couple times and it sounded fantastic, but to be honest I'm not sure I've ever actually used the USB DAC portion. I need to get around to playing around with it a bit more over Christmas break, I've been in a tweaking and modifying kind of mood lately .

And a happy New Year to you too!

DSD can't be streamed via digital coax. if you are connecting it to a receiver or external amp, you the analog out labeled "line out" with a cable that's 3/8 x RCA and connect that to your receiver's 2 channel analog input. you will then be listening to pure DSD native to DAC via analog. most likely, what your hearing is 88.2 or 176.4 PCM that's been converted from DSD.

i'm still thinking about getting a Fii0 X5 for my car. we shall talk about that later.

[BaerGriggs]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

DSD can't be streamed via digital coax. if you are connecting it to a receiver or external amp, you the analog out labeled "line out" with a cable that's 3/8 x RCA and connect that to your receiver's 2 channel analog input. you will then be listening to pure DSD native to DAC via analog. most likely, what your hearing is 88.2 or 176.4 PCM that's been converted from DSD.

i'm still thinking about getting a Fii0 X5 for my car. we shall talk about that later.

Sorry I meant to say line out, not coaxial. But would it make any difference whether it was digital coaxial or line out for DSD playback based on that quote I posted a couple posts back?

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by BaerGriggs

Sorry I meant to say line out, not coaxial. But would it make any difference whether it was digital coaxial or line out for DSD playback based on that quote I posted a couple posts back?

yes, the digital coax only supports 192/24 max. one of two things will happen if your trying to stream DSD via digital coax. it will automatically be converted to PCM in the resolutions i mentioned in the prior post or it will not play anything as the resolution of DSD is too high to stream tha tamount of information over digital coax.

the way you had it, you were listening to native DSD to analog via the Fii0 X5's internal DAC.

you could for example (because you asked before) connect a iphone (using the lightining to USB adapter) to the X5 and use the X5 as a USB DAC and stream hi rez audio to include DSD to it.

i think they already have or soon will allow for external HD to be connected to the X5 direct via the USB input. once they do that, you can then have a TB drive connected to it and have all the music you want. of course, you should probably use external power because that drive will suck the life outta the player!

[solarrdadd]

i have seen a couple of post state that when using the X5 as a USB DAC you cannot playback DSD natively, it get's converted to PCM. how true that is, i don't know.

[BaerGriggs]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

yes, the digital coax only supports 192/24 max. one of two things will happen if your trying to stream DSD via digital coax. it will automatically be converted to PCM in the resolutions i mentioned in the prior post or it will not play anything as the resolution of DSD is too high to stream tha tamount of information over digital coax.

the way you had it, you were listening to native DSD to analog via the Fii0 X5's internal DAC.

you could for example (because you asked before) connect a iphone (using the lightining to USB adapter) to the X5 and use the X5 as a USB DAC and stream hi rez audio to include DSD to it.

i think they already have or soon will allow for external HD to be connected to the X5 direct via the USB input. once they do that, you can then have a TB drive connected to it and have all the music you want. of course, you should probably use external power because that drive will suck the life outta the player!

I have heard of people using OTG cables to connect flash drives to the X5 but I think there are some compatibility issues. Ideally it'd be great to connect a WD My Passport 1 TB to it, that'd allow you to have a huge library of music at hand.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by BaerGriggs

I have heard of people using OTG cables to connect flash drives to the X5 but I think there are some compatibility issues. Ideally it'd be great to connect a WD My Passport 1 TB to it, that'd allow you to have a huge library of music at hand.

yes, i heard about those cables and they have been hit or miss for many. let's hope the folks at Fii0 find a way to incorporate this into the unit via a firmware. it would be a huge step forward for them in their product value and it will pick sales of the unit up by a ton, no doubt!

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at work, currently listening to:



DSD64

so far, this iFi nano iDSD DAC can do no wrong!

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listening to:

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DSD64

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listening to:

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DSD64

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listening to:

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DSD256 streaming @ 22,579kbps

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finishing out the day listening to:

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DSD64

it's the Coooooooooooooooooooltrane Baby!

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starting off the day with:

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DSD64 @ 5644kbps

the DAC is still going strong with no signs of slowing down, no issues either!

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listening to:



FLAC 96/24 @ 3235kbps

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next spot in the que:



WMALL 44.1/16 @ 874kbps

man can this girl sing!

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listening to:



FLAC 192/24 @ 5609kbps

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starting off the day listening to:



FLAC 192/24 @ 6336kbps

and the day begins......at work that is!

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back from the gym (damn good workout too) listening to:



FLAC 96/24 @ 2940kbps

"The Cuervo Gold,
The fine Colombian,
Make tonight a wonderful thing.........."

"............Please Say it again!"

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listening to:



FLAC 192/24 @ 6241kbps Billie doin it only as Billie can!

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listening to:



DSD64 @ 5644kbps

getting primed before hitting the gym!