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Old 09-18-2019, 05:31 PM   #17801
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Just let anyone try to walk off with my new TV! Or even my old one!

If anyone ever invites me to a "Netflix watch party" this is the reaction that they will get:

I do not see why anyone would prefer to watch anything anywhere on anything less than their magnificent big screen TV. Everything that you describe can be accomplished with a TV and it can also be ignored entirely by those of us with no interest in this social media BS.
No, they would be watching on the tv with this device, just with picture in picture with s small rectangle showing your loved ones or friends. I can’t think of anything more distracting then my friend shrieking every time they get a shock in s horror film. Good job it comes with a camera cover and option to switch microphone off.
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:35 PM   #17802
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No, they would be watching on the tv with this device, just with picture in picture with s small rectangle showing your loved ones or friends. I can’t think of anything more distracting then my friend shrieking every time they get a shock in s horror film. Good job it comes with a camera cover and option to switch microphone off.
That is beyond revolting! I do not see how it endangers our TV, though, as it is entirely optional. It will never be used on any TV of mine!
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:38 PM   #17803
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That is beyond revolting! I do not see how it endangers our TV, though, as it is entirely optional. It will never be used on any TV of mine!
It doesn’t immediately. Trends and all that though..........
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:41 PM   #17804
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It doesn’t immediately. Trends and all that though..........
If it remains optional, I don't care if the selfie generation flocks to the idea. Options are exactly that and this is one that I will not only ignore, but one that I am already in the process of forgetting about.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:07 PM   #17805
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It doesn’t immediately. Trends and all that though..........
When have any of the latest trends been forced on you?

How can the feature you described possibly be mandated? Will certain movies refuse to play if you aren't using video chat?

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Old 09-18-2019, 08:28 PM   #17806
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Just to be clear: I hate cable even more than streaming.

With streaming you can only buy and watch things while they are offered by the studios. They can remove or modify titles at any time.

With cable you can only watch things (or record them) at the exact time they air. If you miss them they are gone forever.

With physical media you can buy and watch almost everything that's ever been available. The used market ensures that out-of-print titles remain available for many decades. The studios have absolutely no ability to ever take anything off the market.
Depends on which Cable company you have. I have Xfinity and can rewatch just about anything that has been aired. No DVR needed.Just pic up the remote and speak what you want. Example: I can can watch season 1 of Hawaii5O or last weeks SNL or pause the program I am currently watching. As much as I hate Cable I love the feature. Fiber has incredible bandwidth
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Old 09-18-2019, 11:34 PM   #17807
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I guess my question is, why does the future need to be so bleak and absolute when it comes to digital or physical? What tells either side that one is phasing out the other? I think it is ridiculous to think that will happen. No matter which side of the pendulum you are on.
All it would take is a mega company like Apple or Amazon buying one of the remaining movie studios to wipe out a big chunk of Blu-ray availability. Especially Apple. They would lock down their newly bought films and make them exclusive to Apple+ or whatever ITunes will become. I don’t think some realise just how close we are to such a knock out blow. But hey, the koolaid was nice, right?

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Old 09-19-2019, 01:16 AM   #17808
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All it would take is a mega company like Apple or Amazon buying one of the remaining movie studios to wipe out a big chunk of Blu-ray availability. Especially Apple. They would lock down their newly bought films and make them exclusive to Apple+ or whatever ITunes will become. I don’t think some realise just how close we are to such a knock out blow. But hey, the koolaid was nice, right?
You're the only one who has been drinking any, so I guess you would know. Send us a postcard from Guyana before you expire.

I have much better uses for my time than to worry about your endless, depressing, and entirely fabricated what-if scenarios. I am too busy enjoying my library of movies and life in general. It doesn't bother me in the least if you think that I am being naive; I prefer being happy to being needlessly fearful. Your tiresome fretting accomplishes nothing making it doubly pointless.

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Old 09-19-2019, 01:20 AM   #17809
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All it would take is a mega company like Apple or Amazon buying one of the remaining movie studios to wipe out a big chunk of Blu-ray availability. Especially Apple. They would lock down their newly bought films and make them exclusive to Apple+ or whatever ITunes will become. I don’t think some realise just how close we are to such a knock out blow. But hey, the koolaid was nice, right?
That depends of what you mean by "a big chunk". Even if Apple did buy one of the big studios and make all of their content exclusively digital from now on there would still be hundreds of other companies releasing thousands of other titles on physical media.

A loss of any company's new movies would certainly be disappointing but it's hardly a "knock out blow". No company will ever have the ability to devastate the physical media market because no company will ever control the majority of new content.

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Old 09-19-2019, 09:13 AM   #17810
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That depends of what you mean by "a big chunk". Even if Apple did buy one of the big studios and make all of their content exclusively digital from now on there would still be hundreds of other companies releasing thousands of other titles on physical media.

A loss of any company's new movies would certainly be disappointing but it's hardly a "knock out blow". No company will ever have the ability to devastate the physical media market because no company will ever control the majority of new content.
So, if as expected, Apple buy Sony or MGM,that wouldn’t leave Blu-ray in a awful position? Think of all the films out there by those studios. Apple (in my opinion) wouldn’t be remotely interested in anything but digital distribution.
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:41 AM   #17811
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So, if as expected, Apple buy Sony or MGM,that wouldn’t leave Blu-ray in a awful position? Think of all the films out there by those studios. Apple (in my opinion) wouldn’t be remotely interested in anything but digital distribution.
Then think of all of the other films by all of the other studios. Losing one studio would not put Blu-ray in an awful position. It would certainly be an unfortunate loss but it's nowhere near devastating.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:17 PM   #17812
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If there is a point in worrying about how Apple spends their money, I fail to see it. There is absolutely nothing I can do about it.

What I can do is to keep enjoying this hobby as I have done for over 30 years. It's a lot more fun.

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Old 09-19-2019, 04:36 PM   #17813
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If there is a point in worrying about how Apple spends their money, I fail to see it. There is absolutely nothing I can do about it.

What I can do is to keep enjoying this hobby as I have done for over 30 years. It is a far better use of my time.
On that topic, I was reading my latest issue of Total film and Brad Pitt reckons movies could be on borrowed time (my words). He compares movies to opera and said he isn’t convinced that the current trend of superhero movies is cyclical and fears movies might just be ‘running their course’.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:44 PM   #17814
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On that topic, I was reading my latest issue of Total film and Brad Pitt reckons movies could be on borrowed time (my words). He compares movies to opera and said he isn’t convinced that the current trend of superhero movies is cyclical and fears movies might just be ‘running their course’.
Well, you know what they say about opinions and a-holes....

I am aware of Brad Pitt's musings about the future of movies; he is more curious about their fate than he is worried for them. I posted quotes from him just a few days back in this thread.

Brad Pitt praises subscription streaming's original content for all of the job opportunities it provides for people in the movie industry while also wondering about its impact on the more traditional methods of making and distributing them. He is not at all panicky about the subject; he is just expressing his concerns.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:47 PM   #17815
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Well, you know what they say about opinions and a-holes....

I am aware of Brad Pitt's musings about the future of movies; he is more curious about their fate than he is worried for them. I posted quotes from him just a few days back in this thread.

Brad Pitt praises subscription streaming's original content for all of the job opportunities it provides for people in the movie industry while also wondering about its impact on the more traditional methods of making and distributing them. He is not at all panicky about the subject; he is just expressing his concerns.
https://www.gq.com/story/brad-pitt-c...e-october-2019

See his comments here too. I have been saying it for a while but it takes on even more relevance when it’s somebody in the centre of the industry making those comments. He mentions that you g people consume so much media these days and seem to prefer short bursts of stuff. He doubts there is the same appetite for sitting down for two hour films. Concerns I share and have expressed many times.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:49 PM   #17816
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Well, you know what they say about opinions and a-holes....

I am aware of Brad Pitt's musings about the future of movies; he is more curious about their fate than he is worried for them. I posted quotes from him just a few days back in this thread.

Brad Pitt praises subscription streaming's original content for all of the job opportunities it provides for people in the movie industry while also wondering about its impact on the more traditional methods of making and distributing them. He is not at all panicky about the subject; he is just expressing his concerns.
He praises Netflix alone, pretty much. Simply because they are prepared to take risks. They are liable go with the flow though and make more and more short form should the market demand it.

You see, my posts aren’t just random fears, thought has gone into them.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:58 PM   #17817
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https://www.gq.com/story/brad-pitt-c...e-october-2019

See his comments here too. I have been saying it for a while but it takes on even more relevance when it’s somebody in the centre of the industry making those comments. He mentions that you g people consume so much media these days and seem to prefer short bursts of stuff. He doubts there is the same appetite for sitting down for two hour films. Concerns I share and have expressed many times.
Box office receipts are up and that alone proves that people are more than willing to spend two hours, or more, to watch a movie. The number one box office juggernaut of all time, Avengers Endgame, was three hours long.

No one is disputing that short form content is popular; it always has been. People are busy; they're mobile, and they watch short subjects to relax between jobs, school, and other commitments. Yet, they also go to the cinema to watch three hour long movies and they plant themselves on their couch to binge watch for hours.

Older generations have always criticized younger generations and vice versa; there is nothing new about that time honored ritual. Movies and shorts have coexisted for over a century and they will continue doing so. There is no objective evidence showing that movies are in any danger of losing their appeal.
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He praises Netflix alone, pretty much. Simply because they are prepared to take risks. They are liable go with the flow though and make more and more short form should the market demand it.

You see, my posts aren’t just random fears, thought has gone into them.
I never claimed that you were the only worry wart.

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Old 09-19-2019, 05:11 PM   #17819
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Box office receipts are up and that alone proves that people are more than willing to spend two hours, or more, to watch a movie. The number one box office juggernaut of all time, Avengers Endgame, was three hours long.

No one is disputing that short form content is popular; it always has been. People are busy; they're mobile, and they watch short subjects to relax between jobs, school, and other commitments. Yet, they also go to the cinema to watch three hour long movies and they plant themselves on their couch to binge watch for hours.

Older generations have always criticized younger generations and vice versa; there is nothing new about that time honored ritual. Movies and shorts have coexisted for over a century and they will continue doing so. There is no objective evidence showing that movies are in any danger of losing their appeal.
But that’s not a healthy situation. People are fanatical about superheroes. What happens hen thy fizzle out? That’s the question I want to see the answer to.

Is it a trend thing that will transition to other genres (like some of MR Pitt’s film buddies think) or will film fizzle out (Brad’s own fears I believe). We won’t find out for a while. However, with Disney looking to tie in theatrical stories with tv episodes. The shape of things to come may be forming.
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I never claimed that you were the only worry wart.

Brad Pitt, like myself, loves film. You can easily understand that from reading the many many articles I have read from Pitt throughout the years. It’s right to be concerned about something you dearly love.
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