Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[bhampton]

I gave her the concert shirt from the first Pink Floyd concert I attended. Nov 1987 at the orange bowl. I'm impressed that shirt hasn't fallen apart yet.

I gave one of my other daughters the Momentary Lapse tour shirt from Orlando. I discovered Floyd after the Final Cut but I never missed a chance to see anyone from PF live at every option.

I'm more interested in Pink Floyd than most other things. Listened to Dark Side and WYWH today on Blu Ray Audio.

[Vilya]

I still have mine and now I am skinny enough to wear it again! It's in pretty good shape for a 35 year-old t-shirt.

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[crutzulee]

I have quite a collection of vinyl ( some pretty rare) just sitting in the alcove under my stairs, I have Laserdiscs just sitting on the floor of my theater...I guess you guys are right...maybe discs (or platters) are forever...of course I no longer have players for either of them...Luckily UHD players are built like tanks. ... I've never heard of ANYONE having issues with them....

[bhampton]

I had issues with my UHD player on day 1. Panasonic UB9000.

I had a new Serenity disc and it locked up during the layer change.

I got it exchanged but before the new one showed up I did manage to "fix" the problem by cleaning the disc. The new copy played fine without cleaning.

I have a new agreement with my UHD player - I'll use clean discs and it won't give me any problems. So far it's been perfect since making this new deal.

I have always felt Vinyl is too fragile for me but seeing my daughter fearlessly enjoying it has reminded me of how much fun it is to collect and enjoy media.

I found time today to run through the calibration of my projector.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

That's pretty rich coming from someone that can't play discs from any region. A region free player is very affordable and allows a true film fan to shop the entire world for the movies that they desire. It's hard to buy the "best" when you are restricted to just your home region. Some times the "best" edition comes from another region. Some times you have to import or do without. A true film fan would never willingly do without.

It's also funny how you don't hold TV shows to the same standard. Quality doesn't matter so much there.

Film always has been and always will be my main focus, that’s where the money goes. Tv is great but films are where it’s at in terms of collecting.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

True film fans buy blind and buy best.

Vilya doesn't want to spend another $100K on Movies he will only watch once. Like I said it's all Subjective and very dependent on your equipment and setup...Fantastic!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Vilya doesn't want to spend another $100K on Movies he will only watch once. Like I said it's all Subjective and very dependent on your equipment and setup...Fantastic!

What do I want for dinner? Do you know that, too?

There are plenty of objective measurements for video and audio quality and of course that depends upon the equipment used, but it also most definitely depends upon the source. The only subjective part is how we feel about what we see and hear.

I will gleefully spend "another $100K" on movies/TV shows that I want. How many times I watch them is merely a function of my mood, my health, and my lifespan.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Vilya doesn't want to spend another $100K on Movies he will only watch once. Like I said it's all Subjective and very dependent on your equipment and setup...Fantastic!

Anytime now, I’m expecting him to declare “It’s all digital now”.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Anytime now, I’m expecting him to declare “It’s all digital now”.

You can say that now about your TV shows and video games.

You're already two-thirds converted, maybe even more.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

You can say that now about your TV shows and video games.

You're already two-thirds converted, maybe even more.

Ummmm, not quite. I still collect tv shows, just not multi series affairs.

Bought the mini series ‘The Enfield Haunting’ last week. Pre ordered ‘Frozen Planet 2’. Stuff like Chernobyl, Dekalog, nature docs, mini series, limited series, etc.. are very desirable.

I probably bought around three series on Blu-Ray per year, now it’s the above . Not really lessening my spending, just adjusting it for said content.

Gaming? Yeah, I don’t replay games and the quality is like for like. Totally different ball game.

Plus, it’s not practical removing VR headsets to change games all the time.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Gaming? Yeah, I don’t replay games and the quality is like for like. Totally different ball game.

Plus, it’s not practical removing VR headsets to change games all the time.

Now who else here also constantly talks about the "convenience" of not having to change discs? You are practically a clone of him already.

So, if the quality of digital movies were "like for like" with discs, you'd abandon them, too, like you have with video games? You have already abandoned TV series on disc, so it is no stretch of the imagination for you to do the same with movies.

If you only intend to watch something once, then to hell with physical media for that reason, too?

You really are not committed to physical media at all. Of all the possible ways to support it (movies, tv series, video games, music) you only really do so in one area: movies and your support there is about as firm as a bowl of Jell-o stirred with a vibrator.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Now who else here also constantly talks about the "convenience" of not having to change discs? You are practically a clone of him already.

So, if the quality of digital movies were "like for like" with discs, you'd abandon them, too, like you have with video games? You have already abandoned TV series on disc, so it is no stretch of the imagination for you to do the same with movies.

If you only intend to watch something once, then to hell with physical media for that reason, too?

You really are not committed to physical media at all. Of all the possible ways to support it (movies, tv series, video games, music) you only really do so in one area: movies and your support there is about as firm as a bowl of Jell-o stirred with a vibrator.

No, I said I only play games once. Therefore, the collecting part is irrelevant in that case.

I buy vinyl and I own vinyl. Just in not great numbers.

The watching something once was referring to tv. Film is my passion and I have no qualms buying blind every single time. You lose the excitement watching via streaming before buying.

Why would I care about collecting something I’m not as passionate about.

The discussion is film related relating to HT and home video. Do you want me to start collecting art because that too exists digitally also. Ditto books. Ditto conics.

Silly argument.

My commitment to collecting? Who is the one with zero digital films here?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The discussion is film related relating to HT and home video. Do you want me to start collecting art because that too exists digitally also. Ditto books. Ditto conics.

Silly argument.

My commitment to collecting? Who is the one with zero digital films here?

I only referenced those categories that you actually spend money upon: movies, TV series, music, and video games.

You have rationalized away supporting physical media in all but one of those four categories. It's only a matter of time before you do the same with movies as you have with the other three.

Where did the vast, vast majority of my digital movies come from? They came from the digital code sheets found where again? Why inside of physical media purchases, Einstein!

Who watches my digital collection 99% of the time? My family and my friends, many of whom live in other states. Most of the digital copies that I do buy are for their enjoyment, not mine. I started doing this when the pandemic had everyone living like hermits in their own home.

I buy movies, TV shows, and music almost entirely on physical media. I seldom buy video games at all; what I do have were mostly given to me as gifts because the pleasure of my company is so highly sought after when playing.

It is gaming night tonight, in fact!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I only referenced those categories that you actually spend money upon: movies, TV series, music, and video games.

You have rationalized away supporting physical media in all but one of those four categories. It's only a matter of time before you do the same with movies as you have with the other three.

Where did the vast, vast majority of my digital movies come from? They came from the digital code sheets found where again? Why inside of physical media purchases, Einstein!

Who watches my digital collection 99% of the time? My family and my friends, many of whom live in other states. Most of the digital copies that I do buy are for their enjoyment, not mine. I started doing this when the pandemic had everyone living like hermits in their own home.

I buy movies, TV shows, and music almost entirely on physical media. I seldom buy video games at all; what I do have were mostly given to me as gifts because the pleasure of my company is so highly sought after when playing.

It is gaming night tonight, in fact!

You literally posted that you bought The Black Phone on Vudu.

I believe this habit will only increase. As will the poorly justified excuses

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You literally posted that you bought The Black Phone on Vudu.

I believe this habit will only increase. As will the poorly justified excuses

I have watched about 4 of my digital movies this year. The Black Phone was one of them and it is but one movie out of 1160 digital titles. I seldom use my digital collection at all while I watch a disc or two nearly every night.

As I already told you, my blind buying this digitally at a bargain price allowed me to try it at little risk and to share it with my family and friends. Because I liked this movie I will buy it on disc; I'm just going to wait a bit to see if it gets a 4K disc release before doing so.

Had I used cable TV pay per view to try this movie first, you would not have given me any grief at all. It just bugs you if anyone besides yourself uses digital content.

[cheez avenger]

I saw Black Phone in theaters. Then I watched it at home via Peacock in HD/5.1. I will forgo buying the BD, which is more expensive, and go with it in 4K/DV/Atmos via digital. It's all about cost and leverage for me. I know I've mentioned it before.


I just binged the Cyberpunk 2077: Edgerunners anime via Netlfix. It was great and a terrific compliment to the video. It's in HD / Dolby Vision / 5.1. This series would have been even better in full 4K DV/Atmos. Still, if you're a fan of actual Japanese anime and the game, you will love the series.

[gotmule]

Has anyone ever watched the series Halo? It has a 4K release announced and looks intriguing.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Liked it well enough for a Netflix rental but not well enough for repeat viewing.

Have Where the Crawdads Sing in my queue, in my young years was in the areas (Madisonville & Mandeville, LA) where the movie was shot. A very different terrain.

Watched it in theaters and liked it a lot. Wish it had gotten a UHD release.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

Watched it in theaters and liked it a lot. Wish it had gotten a UHD release.

It may yet. The studios love to trick us into double dipping.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It may yet. The studios love to trick us into double dipping.

Hopefully it doesn't take too long.