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Old 04-02-2019, 07:03 PM   #821
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Cool if this has the hdr10+, I jumped on the preorder some time ago, can't wait to check it out. I thought this film was great. Totally out of left field, but great.
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Old 04-02-2019, 07:46 PM   #822
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No affiliation with Fox? imbd looks like it's Summit.
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Lionsgate said they might release HDR10+ and Dolby Vision combos. I would imagine Dolby Vision decoders ignore the HDR10+ metadata and see the base HDR10 layer and secondary DV layer, and then do their thing as normal.


HDR10+ decoders see the added dynamic metadata tags and ignore the DV layer.
You guys know that Lionsgate (who own Summit, just FYI ray) have already released a DV and HDR10+ disc, right?

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Robin...lu-ray/229309/
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Old 04-02-2019, 07:49 PM   #823
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Wow. Another HDR10- release. I am blown away.
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Old 04-04-2019, 09:21 AM   #824
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Samsung Electronics and Universal Pictures Home Entertainment Announce HDR10+ Content Collaboration



Samsung Electronics and American global content production and distribution company Universal Pictures Home Entertainment (UPHE) announced plans to bring to market titles mastered with HDR10+, the next generation of video standard specification technology developed by Samsung Electronics.

HDR10+ (High Dynamic Range 10+) is an open source-based next-generation video standard led by Samsung Electronics. HDR10+ transforms your TV experience with incredible brightness and contrast for each scene, delivering brighter brights and deepest darks. HDR10+ provides an extraordinary HDR picture-quality experience for viewers and delivers the highest-quality viewing experience.

Through this partnership, Samsung Electronics and UPHE will collaborate on a wide selection of new release and catalog fare with HDR10+ technology, providing consumers with the best-possible home entertainment viewing experience on a variety of displays.

“We are delighted to team with Samsung Electronics on HDR10+ to deliver this striking, cutting-edge technology to entertainment consumers, providing them opportunity to enjoy unparalleled, state-of-the-art movie-watching experiences across an array of Universal physical and digital titles,” said Michael Bonner, Executive Vice President, Digital Distribution, UPHE.

“We have launched a new era of picture-quality technology with HDR10+, providing an amplified vivid viewing experience for consumers” said Hyogun Lee, Executive Vice President of R&D Team, Visual Display Business at Samsung Electronics. “Based on Samsung Electronics’ unique technology and proficiency, we will continue to expand our alliances with premier partners like Universal to provide consumers with the best HDR content possible.”

Samsung Electronics has been collaborating with various companies such as movie studios and OTT operators since the formation of the HDR10+ LLC in August, 2017, leading the next generation HDR technology and expanding the ecosystem. In addition to Korea, Japan and the US, Samsung will continue to strengthen the HDR10+ logo and certification program partnership in other territories around the world.

The HDR10+ certification / logo operating program consists of sharing detailed specifications of technology and test, providing a certification logo and user guide, and certifying the device through a third-party testing laboratory. Logo and technology fees are free. Additional details can be found at https://www.hdr10plus.org/.
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Old 04-04-2019, 09:49 AM   #825
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So Universal are now all HDR10+ with Fox?
Wonder if they drop Atmos as they use X way more anyway.
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Old 04-04-2019, 11:32 AM   #826
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Let's see what happens now: if Warner and Universal jump on the HDR10+ train, things could change quickly
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Old 04-04-2019, 12:24 PM   #827
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I can see Disney doing it tbh.
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Old 04-04-2019, 12:43 PM   #828
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It's not clear if Universal is ditching DV or just adding HDR10+ as well. I would imagine Universal will still include DV on digital.
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Old 04-04-2019, 12:59 PM   #829
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Let's see what happens now: if Warner and Universal jump on the HDR10+ train, things could change quickly
I hope it doesn’t come to that, ‘cause DV is better after all.

If they create a HDR12+, then I’ll hope everybody supports it and dump DV.
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Picking up a technically & theoretically inferior metadata format doesn't make any sense to me.
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Oooh, interesting development.
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I hope it doesn’t come to that, ‘cause DV is better after all.

If they create a HDR12+, then I’ll hope everybody supports it and dump DV.
Ah-ha.
HDR12? for all dem 12bit displays amirite!
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Picking up a technically & theoretically inferior metadata format doesn't make any sense to me.
Exactly!

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Ah-ha.
HDR12? for all dem 12bit displays amirite!
Well, 12 bit are better than 10. It doesn’t matter if displays are capable of showing it. That’s not the point. I don’t really think our eyes are capable of discerning the difference between 10 and 12 bit (not on color perception, anyway). But that’s a subject for another thread...

As of dynamic metadata, I’m of the opinion that it will become less and less necessary as displays get better. Anyway, I’d support a hypothetical HDR12+ over DV. Wouldn’t you guys?

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Old 04-04-2019, 01:35 PM   #834
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Leaving DV for HDR10+ doesn't make much sense since very few brands and devices support the format. I'm guessing Universal will use both formats.
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Old 04-04-2019, 01:38 PM   #835
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Leaving DV for HDR10+ doesn't make much sense since very few brands and devices support the format. I'm guessing Universal will use both formats.
HDR10+ is free. Remember that.
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It remains to be seen whether Fox will continue to support HDR10+ after having been swallowed whole by Disney who backs Dolby Vision and who ousted both Fox's chief technology officer and president of product strategy as well as the leader of Fox Innovation Lab immediately after closing the acquisition, according to a report.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1554370703
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Old 04-04-2019, 01:46 PM   #837
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I doubt Disney will ever return to “premium” HDR formats on disc. They never did it right anyway. The Last Jedi disc has serious compression problems on the HDR10 layer.
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Old 04-04-2019, 05:57 PM   #838
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Exactly!



Well, 12 bit are better than 10. It doesn’t matter if displays are capable of showing it. That’s not the point. I don’t really think our eyes are capable of discerning the difference between 10 and 12 bit (not on color perception, anyway). But that’s a subject for another thread...

As of dynamic metadata, I’m of the opinion that it will become less and less necessary as displays get better. Anyway, I’d support a hypothetical HDR12+ over DV. Wouldn’t you guys?
Point is, try and buy one of them.
DV supporting 12 bit displays is a bit of a joke when it could barely support a lot of OLED sets without grey bars.
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Old 04-04-2019, 06:01 PM   #839
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Ah-ha.
HDR12? for all dem 12bit displays amirite!
Right... because future-proofing is dumb. Who wants to think ahead when you can build in obsolescence now!
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Right... because future-proofing is dumb. Who wants to think ahead when you can build in obsolescence now!
Thinking there won't be another Dolby format between then and now is a bit silly
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