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Old 08-11-2009, 05:08 AM   #1
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:10 AM   #2
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This one doesn't realize it's been re-mastered in HD and cut down to about 150 episodes so probably 6 seasons and is now airing in Japan as Dragon Ball Kai.
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:24 AM   #3
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son of a....

I thought it was announced/rumored...



Didn't notice it was in Wishlist.
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Old 08-11-2009, 10:07 AM   #4
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This one doesn't realize it's been re-mastered in HD and cut down to about 150 episodes so probably 6 seasons and is now airing in Japan as Dragon Ball Kai.
The 9 seasons currently on DVD were made from the remastered HD footage too.

And the Japanese showing of Dragon Ball Kai would need to be re-localized again. That's not going to be done any time soon, but in the meantime, they could give 1080p of what they already gave us on DVD.
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:54 PM   #5
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I never heard of Kai until this thread, I just read they cut it down to 100 episodes. Loved the show when it aired but it shows you how much of it was filler crap.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:04 AM   #6
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The cropping just makes it look silly though.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:31 AM   #7
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They just announced a FUNi DragonBox release on dvd, so this blu-ray one might not happen soon(if ever).
I will give DBK a try once its done, but although much of DBZ is filler, I might miss that

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Old 08-12-2009, 01:38 AM   #8
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Just read that Kai is supposed to be cut to barely over 100 episodes down from 290something

I didn't realize the cuts where that significant.
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:23 AM   #9
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That's probably the best part about it, reduces it from about 100 hours to 30 something, which is much more reasonable.
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:08 PM   #10
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:13 PM   #11
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DBZ Kai season 1 part 1 is being released on Blu-ray may 18th,thats for those that dont know..But i have no interest in Kai,and still hope DBZ seasons will be on Blu-ray sometime in the near future.
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Old 04-26-2011, 08:36 PM   #12
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The 9 seasons currently on DVD were made from the remastered HD footage too.

And the Japanese showing of Dragon Ball Kai would need to be re-localized again. That's not going to be done any time soon, but in the meantime, they could give 1080p of what they already gave us on DVD.
Not true.

The "HD remaster" was made by FUNimation and it was horrible, still, lots of people liked but not all.

Also, the Dragon Ball Z films they released on Blu-ray are just upscales, they didn't even had the masters from the Japanese Dragon Ball films to use, but the tapes.

In the end, FUNimation just tried to do their best.

The only REAL Blu-ray Disc releases Dragon Ball from FUNimation is Dragon Ball Z Kai (Dragon Ball Kai).

Orange bricks (fake HD remasters / poor encoding / bad cropping / bad widescreen) was the worst of all DBZ DVD collections FUNimation has ever produced.

I buy FUNimation products, don't really hate them, but they've done a very poor job with the orange bricks.

Bought from FUNimation:
- Dragon Box 1,2,3 (yet to order the rest)
- Dragon Ball Z Kai Blu-ray 1,2,3,4 (part five is coming out 7th June 2011)

The American Dragon Box is definitely the best DBZ DVD collection from FUNimation, Kikuchi's music is epic awesome!

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Old 04-27-2011, 05:16 AM   #13
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Not true.

The "HD remaster" was made by FUNimation and it was horrible, still, lots of people liked but not all.
It isn't without faults (most notably the 16:9 crop), but it is definitely a HD remaster.

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Also, the Dragon Ball Z films they released on Blu-ray are just upscales, they didn't even had the masters from the Japanese Dragon Ball films to use, but the tapes.
Not true. The American BDs of the Dragon Ball Z films are true HD. They're not good transfers (the source appears to be a theatrical exhibition print with cue marks...), but it IS legitimate HD. Perhaps you're confused because uncompressed HD content can be stored on tapes?

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The American Dragon Box is definitely the best DBZ DVD collection from FUNimation, Kikuchi's music is epic awesome!
There are 4:3 HD masters though. They could do Dragon Box on Blu-ray.

ps also note: my post was from a LONG time ago. Before the American Dragon Boxes were even announced possibly.
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:55 PM   #14
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The "HD remaster" FUNimation did themselves on the orange bricks were terrible, the colours were out of place, the cropping was badly done, the widescreen was disgusting.. An Internet fansub group with a professional encoder could have done much better than them, and they only use a PC.

All of the Dragon Ball Z films FUNimation transferred to Blu-ray they used the DigiTapes from Toei, they aren't bad upscales, decently good but not real HD (upscaled, as I said).

Even though they are upscales, I wanted to buy the films (Dragon Ball Z), more specifically Dragon Ball Z Dead Zone (the first) but can't because it's Region A only.

Comparing Dragon Ball Kai Widescreen (aired in Japan 16:9) was by far much much better than the effed up widescreen FUNimation did.
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:39 PM   #15
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An Internet fansub group with a professional encoder could have done much better than them, and they only use a PC.
Such a person would never be given access to the film masters. Such a person would almost definitely not have a telecine machine.

The only specialized skills that fansubbers have is translating and setting up subtitles. The subtitles were not the problem with the 16:9 DVDs. A "fansubber" wouldn't have been especially able to improve the quality of the transfer or encode. Sure, they probably would have chosen a proper 4:3 frame, but so could you or I, and we're not "fansubbers". Then again, none of us probably know how to use a telecine machine, so we'd all probably be unable to correctly frame it.

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All of the Dragon Ball Z films FUNimation transferred to Blu-ray they used the DigiTapes from Toei, they aren't bad upscales
Again, they're NOT upscales. They're new HD transfers from theatrical prints.

Have a close look at the picture some time, especially the visible layer of grain throughout and the texture in the line work. Upscales don't look like that. Also, try to keep an out for the cue marks. All of the movies have them. These are things used in theatrical prints to cue the projectionist where reels changeover. They were not present in the older DVD or VHS releases of these movies.

And again, HD video is often stored on tapes digitally. I feel like I'm being trolled here. You mention digital tapes yourself immediately after me pointing out that the reason you might be confused is that HD video can be stored on tapes. Perhaps Funimation did merely receive tapes from Japan. Perhaps the new transfer from the theatrical print was made in Japan and only a tape of it made it over here. But even if that is the case, that doesn't mean it wasn't native HD prior to the BD encode. A tiny bit of research indicates that Funimation used HDCAM digital tape at 1080p/24 frames per second for their HD Dragon Ball Z productions. Have you never heard of industry using tapes to store HD digital video? I thought HDCAM was a consumer standard myself, but whatever, that's what they use.

If I had to guess, it seems more like Funimation didn't receive access to the film masters for the movies from Toei, and so they ended up just making HD transfers of theatrical prints they already had access to from when the movies had previously been given limited theatrical releases in the States. Kind of funny too, since they make a big deal about all of the digital cleaning up they did to get rid of dirt and film damage, only to not do a damn thing about the highly visible cue marks.
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son of a....

I thought it was announced/rumored...



Didn't notice it was in Wishlist.
Same ... lol that should be a ban for getting our hopes up even if it was in wish lists
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Old 04-28-2011, 05:48 PM   #17
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Believe what you want Afrobean, I just don't care any more.

But the truth is that it's upscales from the digitapes they received from Toei.

The Dragon Ball films, the first for example, has terrible audio quality (Japanese) and the filtering of the video is just good enough, sure they did what they could.

There's no HD Dragon Ball & Z films/specials, just upscales on Blu-ray by FUNimation.

The only ones capable of making TRUE HD Dragon Ball films/specials is Toei Animation because they own the masters.
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:28 PM   #18
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Believe what you want Afrobean, I just don't care any more.
Why even attempt to reassert your incorrect beliefs again as if in effort to refute my claims then?

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But the truth is that it's upscales from the digitapes they received from Toei.
Cite your sources. I have Funimation's word backing me up, along with the circumstantial evidence of the high resolution presentation (visible texture of film grain as well as texture of the line work) and the evidence of this being an entirely new transfer (the cue marks indicating a theatrical print source).

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The Dragon Ball films, the first for example, has terrible audio quality (Japanese) and the filtering of the video is just good enough, sure they did what they could.
None of the Dragon Ball films have come to Blu-ray yet.

Furthermore, I do believe that all of the Dragon Ball Z Blu-rays have lossy audio for the Japanese while they use lossless for the English. I believe they also use 2.0 stereo for the original Japanese track, as that's what it was originally mixed in. The two English tracks, however, were mixed in 5.1 surround.

So yeah, the audio isn't the best. What does that have to do with anything though? Having lower quality audio is due to Funimation delivering it in its original 2.0 stereo and only bothering with lossless for the English tracks. That has NOTHING to do with whether the picture was remastered from film. Because it was. Sure, the film source for the movies wasn't the master
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There's no HD Dragon Ball & Z films/specials, just upscales on Blu-ray by FUNimation.
Again, cite your source. Funimation made a BIG deal about their new 1080p transfers of the ENTIRE series from film source, every episode of Z, the older Z specials, AND the Z movies.

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The only ones capable of making TRUE HD Dragon Ball films/specials is Toei Animation because they own the masters.
Do a bit of research. Funimation made a big deal about Toei granting them access to the masters to create their new remasters, which eventually ended up being used in the "orange brick" DVD sets, the movie Blu-rays, and the specials Blu-ray.
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The cropping just makes it look silly though.
i have 0 issues with cropping, most blu ray movies look like their cropped.
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