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Old 05-06-2019, 08:41 PM   #1
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I was already seriously concerned about the way the gaming industry is changing in general, but it seems Sony is doing a pretty good job too.





https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/0...content/83575/


Just a quick Google search brings up all kinds of related stuff. I am so sick and tired with the way certain things are going. MK11 is a good example too.

Scary stuff...
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:41 PM   #2
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Really? WTFC? Try getting out of your parents basements.
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I was already seriously concerned about the way the gaming industry is changing in general, but it seems Sony is doing a pretty good job too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5dW...ature=youtu.be

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https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/0...content/83575/


Just a quick Google search brings up all kinds of related stuff. I am so sick and tired with the way certain things are going. MK11 is a good example too.

Scary stuff...
It’s the modern world. It seems if you are not hugely offended by something, you aren’t part of the crowd. This #Metoo movement needs to stop also. It’s gone waaaay too far imo.
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It’s the modern world. It seems if you are not hugely offended by something, you aren’t part of the crowd. This #Metoo movement needs to stop also. It’s gone waaaay too far imo.
Absolutely agreed. You nailed it on the head. Things are REALLY out of hand. It is a major problem.
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Absolutely agreed. You nailed it on the head. Things are REALLY out of hand. It is a major problem.
My concern is we won’t see a GTA for the PS5 and if we do, it will be so far removed from earlier versions that it just won’t be worth playing.

The thing is, where do you draw the line? It’s going to be a VERY ugly future. I’m all for woman playing a huge part in the film industry. Heck, four of my favourite films have a strong female lead/character. (Alien, Aliens, T1 and T2) but this movement has become a witch hunt and a unhealthy obsession imo.

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Old 05-07-2019, 03:11 PM   #6
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My concern is we won’t see a GTA for the PS5 and if we do, it will be so far removed from earlier versions that it just won’t be worth playing.
Yeah. I'm not a big gamer but this issue concerns everything in general today. I mean it terrifies me that certain older films might never get a blu ray release or a home entertainment release in general due to the way things are now with the #MeToo movement and PC in general. What happened?

I know things had been building up for a few years prior but it seems to me that things hit the fan when Straight outta Compton got wrongfully snubbed out of the academy awards. That fueled the whole race aspect of the PC movement when it was mainly just an issue with the film itself getting wrongfully snubbed. Then the academy thought they could make it right I guess with giving the awards to Moonlight the following year but it was too late.

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Old 05-07-2019, 03:31 PM   #7
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Yeah. I'm not a big gamer but this issue concerns everything in general today. I mean it terrifies me that certain older films might never get a blu ray release or a home entertainment release in general due to the way things are now with the #MeToo movement and PC in general. What happened?

I know things had been building up for a few years prior but it seems to me that things hit the fan when Straight outta Compton got wrongfully snubbed out of the academy awards. That fueled the whole race aspect of the PC movement when it was mainly just an issue with the film itself getting wrongfully snubbed. Then the academy thought they could make it right I guess with giving the awards to Moonlight the following year but it was too late.
Yeah, I have voiced my opinions many times about censorship and how switching to digital entertainment only makes things worse. At least on disc, they can’t remove content. Like you, I believe certain films won’t get a re-release in future years. Thankfully, I have nearly 800 discs now!

I was brought up to respect woman and treat people like I would like to be treated. There are always going to be racist, sexist, homophobics etc. Suppressing content is not the answer and never will be.

#Metootoofar!

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Old 05-07-2019, 03:36 PM   #8
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I was brought up to respect woman and treat people like I would like to be treated. There are always going to be racist, sexist, homophobics etc. Suppressing content is not the answer and never will be.
Exactly! Supressing content is just a copout to avoid any responsibility any way you slice it.

It's all a power trip issue as well.

Why am I getting eerie flashes of Philip Kaufman's 1978 horror masterpiece Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Think about it.

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Old 05-07-2019, 07:07 PM   #9
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Yes! Full agreement that Sony's only harming themselves with these ridiculous moves! I've seen attempts to defend it, but so far they all fail due to being based on false pretenses or assumptions that have been disproven 8 ways to next Tuesday.
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You guys should relax. The #MeToo movement is dead. It didn't result in a single conviction in Hollywood pending Weinstein's private trial. Women are 83% of the consumer market. Companies will do whatever they can to appease their biggest customer base. Twitter & Facebook is a companies worst nightmare when it comes to consumer backlash these days. They know how easily women get offended and do everything to not let it happen and appease them. This is capitalism and social media stage of feminism changing corporations for the worst.

Men won't be able to change this because they won't waste all their hard earned money on useless consumer shit. They can however choose not to buy products from companies like Proctor & Gamble (Gillette) when they step out of line. Same goes for Sony if you are that against their creative decisions. Companies like Sony are censoring themselves because they don't want to upset women.
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This doesn't affect me personally, as they haven't censored any of the games I usually play, but if you play these games they're censoring, I'd vote with my wallet and get them for the other systems, they're basically asking for it

btw I think Devil May Cry 5 got a patch to remove the censorship, or at least that's what I read
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You guys should relax. The #MeToo movement is dead. It didn't result in a single conviction in Hollywood pending Weinstein's private trial. Women are 83% of the consumer market. Companies will do whatever they can to appease their biggest customer base. Twitter & Facebook is a companies worst nightmare when it comes to consumer backlash these days. They know how easily women get offended and do everything to not let it happen and appease them. This is capitalism and social media stage of feminism changing corporations for the worst.

Men won't be able to change this because they won't waste all their hard earned money on useless consumer shit. They can however choose not to buy products from companies like Proctor & Gamble (Gillette) when they step out of line. Same goes for Sony if you are that against their creative decisions. Companies like Sony are censoring themselves because they don't want to upset women.
The movement will have a ongoing effect on all media going forward.

Like all hysterical movements, It can do a lot of damage. In my opinion, Those creepy predator’s in Hollywood have a lot to answer for.
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As a person who mostly only plays Japanese games, this has effected me a lot. Especially in the past year when Sony came up with this stupid idea.

But it does make me curious how God Of War - Sony’s own property will be like in the future since that series is known for actual sex and full body nudity.

Japanese games can never go that far because the rating boards in Japan CERO would never allow that kind of stuff on consoles and handhelds. Though only pervy games with bras, panties, swimsuits, towels and whatever else that covers the nudity like steam is allowed. And Sony is trying to get those kinds of games censored even more. Sure some are ports of a PC Hentai game that get censored to approval of CERO which is fine with me. But to edit it even more is dumb. It only proves that the people working at Sony are weak-minded.

ESRB is there for a reason, putting ratings on games so that parents can decide what is good for their their children or not. But with Anime games aimed towards adults that kids don’t even the game even exist, this censorship is just basically Sony treating me who is over 30 years old like I am 13 or even 3. I think 30+ years of age I am old enough to enjoy these kinds of games without censorship. It will be like going to a bar at 25 years old and asking for the strongest alcohol they have and they give you like a Light Beer. So a game with a Mature 17+ rating yeah I think I can handle whatever the game has on it.

I smell hypocrisy at Sony. Plus when the game is without Sony’s censorship on like Switch and/or Steam, Sony is basically saying don’t buy our version go to Nintendo or Steam like they don’t want our business despite the fact that Sony needs as much help as they can get for financial reasons.
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You guys should relax. The #MeToo movement is dead. It didn't result in a single conviction in Hollywood pending Weinstein's private trial. Women are 83% of the consumer market. Companies will do whatever they can to appease their biggest customer base. Twitter & Facebook is a companies worst nightmare when it comes to consumer backlash these days. They know how easily women get offended and do everything to not let it happen and appease them. This is capitalism and social media stage of feminism changing corporations for the worst.

Men won't be able to change this because they won't waste all their hard earned money on useless consumer shit. They can however choose not to buy products from companies like Proctor & Gamble (Gillette) when they step out of line. Same goes for Sony if you are that against their creative decisions. Companies like Sony are censoring themselves because they don't want to upset women.
Um this has upset both Men and Women gamers. Girls like pervy games too especially the Otaku ones. Sony is only just satisfying themselves but claim it’s for the MeToo movement just to make themselves look good to the mainstream audience. Plus anything in a fictional videogame really has nothing to do with reality. So no matter what you do in these games has no bearing on reality. Sony may even be treating these games as real girls.

All this censorship does is hurt niche companies who are barely surviving as is and don’t need Sony’s crap right now. That’s why many of them haven’t been Developing for Sony as much and moved to Nintendo’s Switch and also Steam. Developers want the freedom of creating what they want in the way they want like it’s usually has been.
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This is so dumb when Nintendo hit North America in '85, yes I think a lot of the players of those games were younger children. But now the average age of a gamer is over 30 years old.
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You guys should relax. The #MeToo movement is dead. It didn't result in a single conviction in Hollywood pending Weinstein's private trial. Women are 83% of the consumer market. Companies will do whatever they can to appease their biggest customer base. Twitter & Facebook is a companies worst nightmare when it comes to consumer backlash these days. They know how easily women get offended and do everything to not let it happen and appease them. This is capitalism and social media stage of feminism changing corporations for the worst.

Men won't be able to change this because they won't waste all their hard earned money on useless consumer shit. They can however choose not to buy products from companies like Proctor & Gamble (Gillette) when they step out of line. Same goes for Sony if you are that against their creative decisions. Companies like Sony are censoring themselves because they don't want to upset women.
The #MeToo movement is not dead, just because you don't see Harvey Weinstein on the TV doesn't mean it's dead.
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Worst part is that Sony picks and chooses what gets censored and what doesn't. Catherine Full Body on PS4 is 100% uncensored, same for GTA V and the USA releases of the South Park games (in which the first one has your underage character anally assaulted by a pretty phallic looking alien prob and also has you perform an abortion on a man). I hate censorship and don't want anything censored at all but if Sony is so gun-ho about this, then they should be doing the same to all games, not this pick and choose bullcrap.
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that 46% is mostly cell phone games which should not count imo, very misleading but most sjw facts are misleading or just flat out lies with nothing to back them up
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I think whoever is in charge of operations needs to take consideration over the fact that the next gen is looking pretty good to consumers who want a viable alternative on other platforms, pc included.

People pay to see said content and any company that denies this should be nailed for it. Censorship doesn't give anyone the right to screw with the individual tastes of anyone. Nobody asks for it. Nobody welcomes it

Take the hit and learn to fear.
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I think whoever is in charge of operations needs to take consideration over the fact that the next gen is looking pretty good to consumers who want a viable alternative on other platforms, pc included.

People pay to see said content and any company that denies this should be nailed for it. Censorship doesn't give anyone the right to screw with the individual tastes of anyone. Nobody asks for it. Nobody welcomes it

Take the hit and learn to fear.
Well look at the Fairy Tail game from Koei Tecmo that is based off a Manga/Anime series. It was apparently patched to include censorship of just Panty Shots. However, it doesn’t just apply to the PS4 version, it is also patched to the Switch and Steam versions as well. So either system you choose, you get the censorship on that game. It is funny to censor Panty Shots that were built into the game and yet the DLC Swimsuits is more revealing.

Plus let us face it that Koei Tecmo’s Dead Or Alive 6 is censored on all systems as well but just done in a way where they toned it down from DOA5. It was Developed that way, but I think it is still considered censorship.

Senran Kagura and Valkyrie Drive’s Producer even moved to a different videogame company because of the censorship policies.
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