New H.265 twice as efficient as H.264!

[Agent Zero]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Ok, I will only buy 50 blurays a year from now on. Thanks for letting me know.

lol

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Ok, I will only buy 50 blurays a year from now on. Thanks for letting me know.

That's . Achmed would probably say to that poster, “New guy”. Maybe he came here to practice

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by vargo

They've shown their hand and got their column inches, I don't think we'll hear much more from them in the near future. The project is in a very early phase, earlier even than any of the articles/reviews alluded to.

Maybe the x265 folks are just waiting for Amir and the folks at MS to tell them they have it all wrong (its just science fiction) and VC-2 is the wave of the future

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

That's . Achmed would probably say to that poster, “New guy”. Maybe he came here to practice

Bluray is going nowhere. There are many who can't get a reliable enough Internet connection. There are some who just like discs on their shelves. Me included. Didn't some say that bluray would be dead by 2013? Well, ummmmmmmmmm, it isn't. I say another 8 years at least. Maybe by then streams will resemble bluray rather than looking like a bad dvd most of the time IMO.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by wendell r. Breland

that's . Achmed would probably say to that poster, “new guy”. Maybe he came here to practice

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Maybe the x265 folks are just waiting for Amir and the folks at MS to tell them they have it all wrong (its just science fiction) and VC-2 is the wave of the future

Believe me, they’ve been replaced by Google folks who claim (incorrectly) that VP9 is superior to HEVC and please don’t get me started on Amir.

Wendell, I read your query in quickly passing through Ruined’s *sister* thread on AVS. Your observation is correct, the annoyance with camera panning (and object motion) is a real problem for 4K when it exceeds a certain threshold and is more a function of frame rate rather than display device (as was proposed to you on AVS). See this for more info… https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er#post7221029

Or if you have problems with the links in ^ that post, just go back here during my CES time and read the linked BBC paper - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ic#post7013442

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

There are many who can't get a reliable enough Internet connection.

You may find this Netflix data interesting if you have not seen it already.

There are some who just like discs on their shelves. Me included.

The good part is, there seems to be enough of us to support quality hardware and content (for me personally: Telarc 33⅓, ¼" Open Reel Audio Tape, LaserDisc [DiscoVision], CD, βeta Hi-Fi, DVD, D-Theater, Blu-ray and soon 4K Blu-ray).

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

You may find this Netflix data interesting if you have not seen it already.


The good part is, there seems to be enough of us to support quality hardware and content (for me personally: Telarc 33⅓, ¼" Open Reel Audio Tape, LaserDisc [DiscoVision], CD, βeta Hi-Fi, DVD, D-Theater, Blu-ray and soon 4K Blu-ray).

Way to go. I'm also a Audiophile but that's for another time.

[Steedeel]

By the way, bluray is up 15 percent YOY for first half of year I believe.

[Penton-Man]

We love Blu-ray….and proud of it.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

We love Blu-ray….and proud of it.

Too right.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Believe me, they’ve been replaced by Google folks who claim (incorrectly) that VP9 is superior to HEVC and please don’t get me started on Amir.

Wendell, I read your query in quickly passing through Ruined’s *sister* thread on AVS. Your observation is correct, the annoyance with camera panning (and object motion) is a real problem for 4K when it exceeds a certain threshold and is more a function of frame rate rather than display device (as was proposed to you on AVS). See this for more info… https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...er#post7221029

Or if you have problems with the links in ^ that post, just go back here during my CES time and read the linked BBC paper - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ic#post7013442

And along the lines of that ^ imaging/delivery concept (HFR for UHD), a little press coverage about a set of subjective UHDTV resolution tests conducted at the EBU was just posted today….http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/EBU-t...rame-rates.php

In that regard, some of you deep-thinking folks might wonder….under what criteria was the subjective testing performed? Well, same as this from last Feb. - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ve#post7101216

Namely, Rec. ITU-R BT.500-13.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by vargo

They've shown their hand and got their column inches, I don't think we'll hear much more from them in the near future. The project is in a very early phase, earlier even than any of the articles/reviews alluded to.

Varg, rather than a single/simple advertisement page, the website now has been updated with a little meat on it (e.g. a Developers tab) -

http://x265.org/index.html

[vargo]

Microsoft publishes the specification for hardware acceleration of HEVC via the DXVA api.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...ws_allproducts

The document itself will not be of interest to anyone not familiar with the technical workings of DXVA and video codecs in general, but nonetheless it shows that the steps are being taken towards accessible HEVC playback.

[vargo]

DivX release DivX 10, containing their HEVC encoder and playback software, free to use for consumers.

Download link on their website. Be careful because DivX software is often loaded with difficult-to-remove crapware.

[vargo]

The latest MPC-HC nightlies now feature built in HEVC decoding so it is very easy to test HEVC playback without screwing around with codecs.

http://nightly.mpc-hc.org/

It should be part of the VLC nightlies soon too.

Check the DivX site for some clips in 720p, 1080p and 4k. Right-click the thumbnails and choose 'save link as' to download them.

http://www.divx.com/en/hevc-showcase

Don't bother to try the 4k clip unless you have a powerful system. 1080p and 720p should be playable on any decent dual core system from the last few years.

Sadly all the clips are bitrate starved but you can find higher bitrate clips elsewhere if you search.

[BozQ]

I tried encoding in HEVC. It works fine for the most part. But the encoding is extremely slow.

But it has to start from somewhere. I don't have a source higher than 1080p Blu-ray AVC source to test the encoder's efficiency though.

[Canada]

Scott Wilkinson and Joe Kane explain H.265 and Joe Kane voices his displeasure with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtL8hG_JJWY

Start at about 43 minutes

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Canada

Start at about 43 minutes...

1. If Joe’s home audiences are seeing such a dramatic difference in 4:4:4 vs. 4:2:0 with real world motion picture content then I highly suggest he find a better (state-of-the-art) solution for that conversion processing as something is ‘off’ with his materials and methods.

2. Joe...“I believe it’s only 8 bit”.
From last Jan. - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...in#post6987708
Not to mention the fact that HEVC will continue to advance with work started on extensions for 12-bit video and 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 chroma formats with planned completion in 2014.

3. Rather than dismissing in a cavalier fashion Dolby’s efforts (who are the defacto leaders in HDR research and development [at least since ’07 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrightSide_Technologies ])

His HDR expertise might be better served in this role - http://www.cis.rit.edu/files/pdf/jobs/dolby3.pdf

Or, perhaps spending less time on talk shows geared to consumers lecturing about HDR and more to other eductional settings, like so - https://talks.stanford.edu/scott-daly-timo-kunkel/

[vargo]

For those who prefer VLC, it now also has HEVC playback as of 2.1.1