Check Your Media Asia/Mega Star Blu-rays

[Aunt Peg]

Originally Posted by PGW

And, again, I disagree with you.

In the past, when I've attempted to scan through defective discs, they've ALWAYS hung up at the bad point. If I scan through a disc and it scans through smoothly and without problem, I'm satisfied ENOUGH that the disc will play fine. If you want to sit and watch movies all day just to make sure they play - well, fine. Go for it. But... but... what if you just happened to watch them the DAY before they go bad? You must watch them again, and then again the next week... you know, just to make SURE.

Thats what I've been doing with my Warners DVD discs from about 2005 to 2009. I did a quick chapter to chapter check. If they past that I added them onto a list to watch - which I have been getting through and those have all been playing fine.

When I have a disc that has problems it stops working at a chapter - I then check it on other machines. Sometimes the disc will play on anther machine so I watch it ASAP because its clear the disc is going to die soon and won't work on any player.

I suppose given I haven't watched Memories of Murder in years I'll include it on my list of 'priority watch' discs. Though chapter to chapter it was fine (for the moment at least).

[Torrente]

That's exactly what I do

Originally Posted by sonicassassin

Hi Torrente, what about programs used to backup a disc as a full disc iso? Would that work in addition to using VSO Inspector or would it copy over the corrupted part of the disc?

VSO Inspector is the only program, I'm aware of, that gives you certainty on this topic!
If a disc still plays, say, on a PS3 after you tried watching it unsuccessfully on a regular player, or if it still plays fine on every player you tried it on, VSO will tell you exactly what to except without having to sit through the entire disc. Bad sectors will pop up if the disc is dying but still plays fine on your regular player.

Originally Posted by PGW

And, again, I disagree with you.

In the past, when I've attempted to scan through defective discs, they've ALWAYS hung up at the bad point. If I scan through a disc and it scans through smoothly and without problem, I'm satisfied ENOUGH that the disc will play fine. If you want to sit and watch movies all day just to make sure they play - well, fine. Go for it. But... but... what if you just happened to watch them the DAY before they go bad? You must watch them again, and then again the next week... you know, just to make SURE.

Your reply is a bit condescending so I won't bother.
Just be sure that I wasn't trying to be smart or to fight with you

[PGW]

I wasn't trying to be condescending, but it's a terrible thought...

Let's take my failed CJ Entertainment disc of "Mother." I watched the movie when I bought it, and it played fine. A month or so ago I put it on and now it hangs up. Clearly, it is bad. However, these things don't have an "off" and "on" switch, and I think it's very likely that some of the problem discs will STILL play fine even if you pop them in and watch every second of the movie... BUT they might not play fine a month from now, or a year from now or whenever.

Given that, how can we even trust the "good" discs that we have, where it's known that bad copies exist?

I'm not pissed off at you - I'm pissed off at the industry. The ones that invented laserdiscs that rotted and went bad, then DVDs (mostly double sided ones) that won't play anymore, and now blu-rays that seem to be dying left and right... but they've got our money, so I guess THEY'RE happy.

And for those of us who collect movies (not stream them!) this is JUST what we don't need - a dying industry now saddled with dying product.

[Torrente]

And I can't agree more on that!!!!

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by PGW

I just scanned through my copy of "Memories of Murder" and it seems to be fine.
My first pressing crapped out a few years ago (froze at the layer change) and I got a replacement from CJ. The inner ring IFPI code is L606.

Do you remember what year it was when you got the replacement? And what is the mould IFPI code for the replacement? (the code on the innermost clear plastic ring)

[PGW]

Yes. It was sent to me in March, 2017.

The inner IFPI code is in my post that you quoted... did you want the other one?

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by PGW

Yes. It was sent to me in March, 2017.

The inner IFPI code is in my post that you quoted... did you want the other one?

That seems like the master code to me, not the mould code. Is the other code IC0Z?

[PGW]

I just checked. Actually, BOTH codes are L606.

[neo_reloaded]

Hmm. That seems really odd to me.

[PGW]

I thought so, too.

[neo_reloaded]

Ok yeah, neither of those is the mould code. Those are both the master code. I think dual-layer discs have the master code for each layer, hence why you're seeing it twice.

The mould code is on the clear plastic literally at the center of the disc. The part that holds onto the hub in a case. It's harder to read but represents the code of the machine that actually physically created this disc.

[Torrente]

Actually, on your pic the Mould code is there, imprinted in the clear plastic (as always):



You might need a magnifying glass to read it 'though.

[PGW]

I see. It's IC1Z.

[neo_reloaded]

Does anyone have any recent CJ Entertainment releases, like 2016 or later? It'd be wonderful if IC1Z is the new code for lots of stuff, allowing for recent pressings of the 2009-2011 titles to be distinguished from the bad IC0Z pressings.

[Donnie_Yen]

I own all first press limited edition from CJ Entertainment. I just checked some discs.

"A Moment to Remember" (CJ013) is the last movie with the mould code IC0Z on the disc.

After that the mould code is IC1Z.

[PGW]

I checked mine as well.

My copies of "Memories of Murder" (02) and "Haeundae" (05) are replacements and have the codes IC1Z and IC2Z.

03b (the black and white version of "Mother") is IC1Z, but that came out much later so that makes sense.

As Donnie_Yen said, the switch-over seems to have happened around "A Moment To Remember" (13), since "Sunny" (14) is IC1Z. However, my copy of "Quick" (15) reverts to IC0Z.

From 16 on, my copies of the discs are IC1Z except for "The Tower" (30), "Killer Toon" (32) and "Flu" (35), which are JN61.

[Aunt Peg]

I've just finished watch my Memories of Murder CJ Blu Ray disc and it played fine. Of course that doesn't mean it will play next week or next year. I also tried to read the code on the disc but even with a magnifying glass under a very bright light simply could not. I do suspect its from a later batch only because I didn't purchase it all that long ago and it pretty much became out of print straight after I purchased it from YesAsia.

Same with my B&W Mother Blu Ray which I will do a chapter to chapter check on and if thats fine will watch very soon. Like MoM I purchased Mother (in B&W) from YesAsia just before it seemed to go out of stock.

[FungManHin]

Updated the DAMB spreadsheet again.

I re-added User Name field to accompany the new Purchase Place and Purchase Date fields. As neo said it might worth documenting purchase date. So this means that there will be multiple entries for the same title depending on who reports their discs. I have updated my discs where I could.

I also updated Notes for my entries to reflect what is wrong with my discs.

Lastly, I created a 'Bronzing/Picture Distortion Examples' tab. I uploaded the same picture of five discs, one with camera flash and one without. Four of the five discs have various degrees of bronzing and the fifth (last pic on the right) is a non-bronzed disc. I also uploaded an image of the kind of picture distortion that I am experiencing during playback on bluray or pc drive. This distortion is also present during digital backup copies.

I will continue to add titles as I make my way through my collection this week.

[Futurhythm]

Originally Posted by FungManHin

Updated the DAMB spreadsheet again.

I re-added User Name field to accompany the new Purchase Place and Purchase Date fields. As neo said it might worth documenting purchase date. So this means that there will be multiple entries for the same title depending on who reports their discs. I have updated my discs where I could.

I also updated Notes for my entries to reflect what is wrong with my discs.

Lastly, I created a 'Bronzing/Picture Distortion Examples' tab. I uploaded the same picture of five discs, one with camera flash and one without. Four of the five discs have various degrees of bronzing and the fifth (last pic on the right) is a non-bronzed disc. I also uploaded an image of the kind of picture distortion that I am experiencing during playback on bluray or pc drive. This distortion is also present during digital backup copies.

I will continue to add titles as I make my way through my collection this week.

Going by those photos, I think even though my discs seem to play fine, there is definitely some kind of bronzing happening.

If the distortion occurs even on backups, does that mean all discs should be scanned with VSO Inspector before a backup is made? I mean, otherwise we're all gonna be making corrupt backups...

Is it also safe to say that the bad discs were all released prior to 2011? Also, any issues with Deltamac, Mei Ah, Edko, or IVL discs?

[sonicassassin]

Originally Posted by Donnie_Yen

I own all first press limited edition from CJ Entertainment. I just checked some discs.

"A Moment to Remember" (CJ013) is the last movie with the mould code IC0Z on the disc.

After that the mould code is IC1Z.

I wonder if everything up to "A Moment to Remember" is at risk? I thought I noticed a change in color on the disc for "A Dirty Carnival" first press limited edition. I will have to check again in the next day or so.