Arrow Video / Arrow Academy USA Discussion Thread

[rillog]

Would also love to see 'Don't go in the Park' and 'Madhouse' on Blu.

[asabreed]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

99 bucks, man!

And all those NOT cheap added shipping costs and inflation rates from whatever the currency is to U.S. dollars!

Sorry -- it's just that people talk about the player like there are no other costs for importing. It ain't cheap that's for sure.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by asabreed

And all those NOT cheap added shipping costs and inflation rates from whatever the currency is to U.S. dollars!

Sorry -- it's just that people talk about the player like there are no other costs for importing. It ain't cheap that's for sure.

I didn't realize they had a 'hidden cost' of $40 to make it region-free (why else would you be buying a BD player from them?) but standard shipping is free, so the total charge would be $135, with no sales tax outside of Illinois. That's still pretty cheap, and you can pay via Paypal or even Amazon if you don't want to use your credit chard. There's nothing 'shady' or foreign about them - they're BBB accredited and ship from right here in the USA. They seem to be the most-used/dependable company for region-free players, as far as what I've come across on other forums.


Edit: Although not as cheap as the $50 Insignias that Best Buy unfortunately stopped manufacturing!

[gpn]

Stray Cat Rock will be a definite pick up, Cemetary Without Crosses is a maybe; I'll have to look into it some more.

[spawningblue]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

99 bucks, man!

Probably closer to $200 shipped to Canada and converted over. Plus, I host a podcast and constantly lend my friend movies for it, he also doesn't have a region free player. No one I know does for that matter. There are many reasons why I don't want to get into buying discs from other regions.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

Probably closer to $200 shipped to Canada and converted over.

$172 total. Just throwing it out there

[asabreed]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

I didn't realize they had a 'hidden cost' of $40 to make it region-free (why else would you be buying a BD player from them?) but standard shipping is free, so the total charge would be $135, with no sales tax outside of Illinois. That's still pretty cheap, and you can pay via Paypal or even Amazon if you don't want to use your credit chard. There's nothing 'shady' or foreign about them - they're BBB accredited and ship from right here in the USA. They seem to be the most-used/dependable company for region-free players, as far as what I've come across on other forums.

Edit: Although not as cheap as the $50 Insignias that Best Buy unfortunately stopped manufacturing!

You know what that's my bad -- I was mostly talking about the costs of the DISCS to get shipped here, not the player. Sorry I didn't clarify.

I think $140 ideally for a region-free player -- it's just the costs after all of that with the discs from places overseas.

Like the MOC recent sales and Arrow sales from their UK shop -- paying by Paypal is all well and good. Then, though, you add the 1.5 ratio from Pounds to Dollars, and whatever the crazy shipping costs are. It gets nuts.

The only discs I've ever imported are from Eureka -- Repo Man (later released from Criterion) and Touch of Evil (later released from Paramount... I think). So I spent like $50 only to have been able to get the discs ideally from gift cards from Amazon later, with ideally the same or better transfers and supplements.

Anyway, getting long-winded here! Just saying my peace with the import stuff. As someone with less patience than I wished (!), I still like to try and hold out for stuff in the states. To each his own, though.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by asabreed

Like the MOC recent sales and Arrow sales from their UK shop -- paying by Paypal is all well and good. Then, though, you add the 1.5 ratio from Pounds to Dollars, and whatever the crazy shipping costs are. It gets nuts.

Although MoC has free world-wide shipping and Arrow offers the same for all orders over £50, plus you earn points at the latter.

[Jobla]

Dark Sky titles I'd like on Blu:

THE FLESH EATERS
HORROR OF PARTY BEACH
VIOLENT MIDNIGHT (aka PSYCHOMANIA)
FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE SPACE MONSTER

JACK THE RIPPER (1960)--owned by Dark Sky, but never released on US VHS or DVD. Used to air on AMC.
It's a British film. I'd especially like to have the French nudie "Continental" footage on the disc, either as a supplement or integrated into the film.

[al cos.]

Buckaroo Banzai UK only? Come on mgm, you're killing me here.

[skyofcrack]

Originally Posted by Jobla

Dark Sky titles I'd like on Blu:

HORROR OF PARTY BEACH

"Look, she's all clawed up!"

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by rillog

Would also love to see 'Don't go near the Park' and 'Madhouse' on Blu.

Those are my big two wants from what Dark Sky has.

Those and Curse of the Living Corpse, Horror of Party Beach, and Violent Midnight collected together in a Del Tenney triple feature!

(and Trilogy of Terror, but that goes without saying! )

[asabreed]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

Although MoC has free world-wide shipping and Arrow offers the same for all orders over £50, plus you earn points at the latter.

True, though it takes a LOT of American Dollars for what you "earn" as far as points go.

And I still paid a hell of a lot with the free shipping from MoC. Again, it's mostly just me since I prefer to wait, though the costs are just way exponential to import in so many areas.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by asabreed

You know what that's my bad -- I was mostly talking about the costs of the DISCS to get shipped here, not the player. Sorry I didn't clarify.

I think $140 ideally for a region-free player -- it's just the costs after all of that with the discs from places overseas.

Like the MOC recent sales and Arrow sales from their UK shop -- paying by Paypal is all well and good. Then, though, you add the 1.5 ratio from Pounds to Dollars, and whatever the crazy shipping costs are. It gets nuts.

It's not expensive if you shop from the right places. You can purchase cheap discs from Zavvi and shipping is a flat-rate of 2 GBP. Combine that with one of their percentage-off coupons and it doesn't cost anything for shipping. Amazon UK discs are cheaper than what they're listed as if you import to the US because the VAT is removed, etc. You can get higher quality product from overseas for a fraction of what labels like Scream Factory sell their wares for.

[returnofthemack]

I went region free about a year ago and I don't regret a thing. I wait for arrows sales (which are great) and never pay too much unless it's somthing I don't want to wait for a price drop. The burbs I paid around $25 american dollars for which isn't too bad when compared to a new scream factory release. My last two orders from overseas were slaughterhouse and blood and black lace $40 shipped and lifeforce, rabid dogs and bound for $43 shipped so prices are very similar to US labels.

It's worth it to me when superior releases can be found in different regions or when stuff simply isn't available here. As others have said there will always be a way around region locking. The right software and hardware makes region locking a solveable problem.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by al cos.

Buckaroo Banzai UK only? Come on mgm, you're killing me here.

A US studio probably already claimed it.

[NoirFan]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

A US studio probably already claimed it.

From the previous page:

Originally Posted by Akijama

Re: Buckaroo Banzai, Shout! Factory also wanted to release that one on Blu, but according to Kino's rep, MGM will release it themselves, sometime in the future.

[Blu Titan]

Awesome release schedule announced today by Arrow. Love all of the Japanese films they are releasing. Stray Cat Rock is awesome...buy it .

[Pinot Grigio]

Originally Posted by NoirFan

Yeah, I actually debated removing that one from the list, as it is pretty bad (I included it as an afterthought for completion's sake!), but the rest are ALL above-average slashers and several are, within the limitations of that sub-genre, superb. Something like, say, Psychopath or Victims is far more unique, interesting, and challenging than an empty formula-follower like Sleepaway Camp. People who consider themselves 'slasher fans' but are only aware of the slicker, adolescent-aimed fare of the 1980's would do well to seek out the edgier, atmospheric 70's predecessors, which are far more rewarding in every way.

Murderlust is down there with Bits & Pieces for me. Deadline isn't really a slasher. Crazed is ho-hum. If Psychopath is the 1975 film about the puppet guy, then yes, that'd be awesome on BD! Though not quite a slasher, Murder By Phone / Bells (1982) would be improved with a transfer. Stone Cold Dead (1979) falls into that grey area too!

Victims is, though, terrible. We're talking the "1985" (more like late 70s) one, right? That is interesting for its ending, but wow. It's atrocious.

As for Sleepaway Camp being an "empty formula-follower"... anything but. One of the strongest films in the genre, every scene is a note, moves to its own strange vibe. A film like Madman would be more appropriate to pick on.

In terms of slasher films that have never come out on BD/DVD by this point, I'd list all of these:

Blood & Lace (1971)
Blood Frenzy (1987)
Blood Voyage (1976)
Bloodbeat (1983)
Bloodrage (1979)
City in Panic (1987)
City of Blood (1983)
Coda (1987)
Dead Girls (1990)
Dear Dead Delilah (1972)
Delirium (1979)
Early Frost (1982)
Evil Judgment (1984)
Fatal Games (1984)
Funeral Home (1980)
Ghost Dance (1980)
Home for the Holidays (1972)
Honeymoon Horror (1982)
House of Death (1982)
The House Where Death Lives (1981)
Hunter's Blood (1986)
Innocent Prey (1984)
Island of Blood (1982)
Keep My Grave Open (1976)
Love Massacre (1981)
Master Blaster (1987)
Mirage (1990)
Next of Kin (1982)
Night After Night After Night (1970)
The People Across the Lake (1988)
Pledge Night (1990)
The Prey (1984)
Psychopath (1975)
Return of the Family Man (1989)
Ritual of Death (1990)
Rocktober Blood (1984)
Run Stranger Run (1973)
Sannata (1981)
Savage Intruder (1970)
Scum of the Earth (1974)
Silent Madness (1984)
The Slayer (1982)
Srigala (1981)
The Single Girls (1974)
Terror Aboard (1933)
Terror on Alcatraz (1986)
Till Death Do Us Part (1982)
Too Scared to Scream (1985)
Torment (1986)
Unmasked Part 25 (1989)

*(Appointment with Fear (1985), Bloodstalkers (1978), Contagion (1987), Deadly Games (1982), Edge of the Axe (1988), Forced Entry (1975), Have a Nice Weekend (1974), Home Sweet Home (1981), Invisible Maniac (1990), Mad Mutilator (1984), Masque of the Red Death (1989) by Alan Birkinshaw, Meatcleaver Massacre (1977), The Night Brings Charlie (1990), Satanic Attraction (1990), Savage Lust (1990), Skullduggery (1983), Twisted Nightmare (1987) and Vultures (1983) are fun oddities as well)

[Martin_31]

Originally Posted by Pinot Grigio

Murderlust is down there with Bits & Pieces for me. Deadline isn't really a slasher. Crazed is ho-hum. If Psychopath is the 1975 film about the puppet guy, then yes, that'd be awesome on BD! Though not quite a slasher, Murder By Phone / Bells (1982) would be improved with a transfer. Stone Cold Dead (1979) falls into that grey area too!

Victims is, though, terrible. We're talking the "1985" (more like late 70s) one, right? That is interesting for its ending, but wow. It's atrocious.

As for Sleepaway Camp being an "empty formula-follower"... anything but. One of the strongest films in the genre, every scene is a note, moves to its own strange vibe. A film like Madman would be more appropriate to pick on.

In terms of slasher films that have never come out on BD/DVD by this point, I'd list all of these:

Blood & Lace (1971)
Blood Frenzy (1987)
Blood Voyage (1976)
Bloodbeat (1983)
Bloodrage (1979)
City in Panic (1987)
City of Blood (1983)
Coda (1987)
Dead Girls (1990)
Dear Dead Delilah (1972)
Delirium (1979)
Early Frost (1982)
Evil Judgment (1984)
Fatal Games (1984)
Funeral Home (1980)
Ghost Dance (1980)
Home for the Holidays (1972)
Honeymoon Horror (1982)
House of Death (1982)
The House Where Death Lives (1981)
Hunter's Blood (1986)
Innocent Prey (1984)
Island of Blood (1982)
Keep My Grave Open (1976)
Love Massacre (1981)
Master Blaster (1987)
Mirage (1990)
Next of Kin (1982)
Night After Night After Night (1970)
The People Across the Lake (1988)
Pledge Night (1990)
The Prey (1984)
Psychopath (1975)
Return of the Family Man (1989)
Ritual of Death (1990)
Rocktober Blood (1984)
Run Stranger Run (1973)
Sannata (1981)
Savage Intruder (1970)
Scum of the Earth (1974)
Silent Madness (1984)
The Slayer (1982)
Srigala (1981)
The Single Girls (1974)
Terror Aboard (1933)
Terror on Alcatraz (1986)
Till Death Do Us Part (1982)
Too Scared to Scream (1985)
Torment (1986)
Unmasked Part 25 (1989)

*(Appointment with Fear (1985), Bloodstalkers (1978), Contagion (1987), Deadly Games (1982), Edge of the Axe (1988), Forced Entry (1975), Have a Nice Weekend (1974), Home Sweet Home (1981), Invisible Maniac (1990), Mad Mutilator (1984), Masque of the Red Death (1989) by Alan Birkinshaw, Meatcleaver Massacre (1977), The Night Brings Charlie (1990), Satanic Attraction (1990), Savage Lust (1990), Skullduggery (1983), Twisted Nightmare (1987) and Vultures (1983) are fun oddities as well)

Amazing! Arrow Video needs to consider this list as a guide.