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Old 04-02-2023, 04:19 PM   #7361
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1) the two children from dead characters. one would've been bad enough, but they went all in and magically had 2 lol

Grace wasn't pregnant, and already died on screen. Quaritch had too many monologues in A1, having a kid in Pandora would've probably slipped in one of them. but if they had to have one, I can accept Spider, should've figured something else for Kiri, though.
I mean, the fact is we donít know how Kiri came to be yet. All that was revealed in the film was that it happened. She very well COULD be a clone that Grace had made in her own avatar body, itís not like pregnancies show immediately. I think itís one of the more interesting mysteries of the story so far.
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Old 04-02-2023, 05:31 PM   #7362
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Old 04-02-2023, 06:11 PM   #7363
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Old 04-02-2023, 06:40 PM   #7364
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AWoW doesn't look that bad, neither great. Without 3D it's ok for some, and too much for others.

Money talks; that's all that matters @ the end. This is a movie business. We're in it to buy and sell.

* The first original Avatar is the better flick (more money too).
The worst is yet to come; strap your seat belt on real tight. You ain't see nothing yet.
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Old 04-02-2023, 07:09 PM   #7365
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The 1.78:1 version of AVATAR did not use the entire width of the original frame. The scope 2.39:1 version of Avatar had slightly more image at the sides than the 16:9 version, though not by much.

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Also, I saw AVATAR in 70mm IMAX film 4 times. It was heavily pillarboxed and letterboxed (black bars on all four sides).

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I am out of luck too. Never found the time to watch Avatar 2 at the cinemas. So, I'll just have to make do with digital. Will probably get the home video version if it's released in India at an affordable price.
I stand corrected on the 70mm Imax prints, didnít know it was windowboxed like that. Could it have been done only for the 3D version, in order to line up the left and right eyes, or did it look like that in 2D 70mm Imax as well? I swear I saw a video on youtube once from the projection booth of an actual 15/70 theater playing the opening stretch of the first movie. Itís been a while, but I donít remember noticing any windowboxing, which makes me wonder if it was the 2D version (or if I wasnít looking closely enough).

As for the scope version, are you sure weíre not seeing a different eye view in the 16:9 than we are in the 2.35:1?
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Old 04-02-2023, 07:43 PM   #7366
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I ended up watching So Undercover

I'm sure its just as good as Avatar 2
This randomness of So Undercover being mentioned on Avatar 2 thread made me realize I had never seen this Miley flick. then immediately realized I must seek this piece of cinema. So I did, I watched it on Amazon Prime and I…..regret it.
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Old 04-02-2023, 09:22 PM   #7367
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I stand corrected on the 70mm Imax prints, didnít know it was windowboxed like that. Could it have been done only for the 3D version, in order to line up the left and right eyes, or did it look like that in 2D 70mm Imax as well? I swear I saw a video on youtube once from the projection booth of an actual 15/70 theater playing the opening stretch of the first movie. Itís been a while, but I donít remember noticing any windowboxing, which makes me wonder if it was the 2D version (or if I wasnít looking closely enough).

As for the scope version, are you sure weíre not seeing a different eye view in the 16:9 than we are in the 2.35:1?
I saw Way of Water on a true IMAX screen 1.43 and even though it was a dual laser projection, it was also pillarboxed and letterboxed aka all 4 sides. I donít think it has anything to do with 3D vs 2D, and on a cam recorder you likely wouldnít notice since the rest of the screen is basically pitch black and a camcorder wouldnít pick up the distinction.
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Old 04-03-2023, 12:36 AM   #7368
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This randomness of So Undercover being mentioned on Avatar 2 thread made me realize I had never seen this Miley flick. then immediately realized I must seek this piece of cinema. So I did, I watched it on Amazon Prime and I…..regret it.
it was alright actually. it knows what it is.
managed to make me chuckle once or twice, nothing at what miley said mind you.

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Old 04-03-2023, 08:41 PM   #7369
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There is no end to human greed. The "dying world" aspect hits pretty close to home considering what humanity is doing to our planet.
Yeah, I guess we don't know how 'dead' earth is in Avatar, in my mind it's a post apocalyptic military base, but I don't think that's the case

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I mean, the fact is we don’t know how Kiri came to be yet. All that was revealed in the film was that it happened. She very well COULD be a clone that Grace had made in her own avatar body, it’s not like pregnancies show immediately. I think it’s one of the more interesting mysteries of the story so far.
I don't think she's a clone made by Grace before she died, she's definitely post 'soul transfer' since she has a connection to Eywa. maybe she's an incarnation of Eywa.

anyway, I agree, to me she's the most interesting part of the story so far, and I'm glad Sigourney Weaver plays her
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Old 04-05-2023, 03:52 PM   #7370
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Yeah, I guess we don't know how 'dead' earth is in Avatar, in my mind it's a post apocalyptic military base, but I don't think that's the case
Iím interested to see as well. In the extended of Avatar we start with Jake on earth, and itís VERY cyberpunk. Definitely some Blade Runner going on there. But as that was cut itíll be interesting to see if Cameron changes anything about that.
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Old 04-06-2023, 05:49 PM   #7371
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Had a rewatch today.

Cemented my view really of the franchise. Pretty and impressive but not worth the time taken to make, especially from a talent like Cameron. Its a shame.

Also on second viewing it really showed up just how similar it is to the first. After all the criticism levelled at the 09 film for its lack of originality I'm surprised Cameron decided to essentially remake his own film again. The water setting distracted from the fact it was a repeat of the first.

But again, I thought it was good, like the first. Was never bored and the tech on show was definitely an upgrade even if it will age in time like the first.
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Old 04-06-2023, 07:33 PM   #7372
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Had a rewatch today.

Cemented my view really of the franchise. Pretty and impressive but not worth the time taken to make, especially from a talent like Cameron. Its a shame.

Also on second viewing it really showed up just how similar it is to the first. After all the criticism levelled at the 09 film for its lack of originality I'm surprised Cameron decided to essentially remake his own film again. The water setting distracted from the fact it was a repeat of the first.

But again, I thought it was good, like the first. Was never bored and the tech on show was definitely an upgrade even if it will age in time like the first.
Considering Avatar is the top grossing film of all time and the sequel is sitting just two spots below it's not too surprising that Cameron wanted to use a similar formula. He is obviously lightyears ahead of the rest of us.
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Old 04-06-2023, 08:16 PM   #7373
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Considering Avatar is the top grossing film of all time and the sequel is sitting just two spots below it's not too surprising that Cameron wanted to use a similar formula. He is obviously lightyears ahead of the rest of us.
Well then he is either getting lazy in his old age or is selling out because Aliens and T2 prove he can refresh and revitalise sequel material.
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Old 04-06-2023, 08:35 PM   #7374
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Well then he is either getting lazy in his old age or is selling out because Aliens and T2 prove he can refresh and revitalise sequel material.
Those movies were made when he was becoming a star director. Now he is King Of The Hill. That changes a person's perspective. It will show in his work. You can argue all day long, but the numbers show his success.
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Well then he is either getting lazy in his old age or is selling out because Aliens and T2 prove he can refresh and revitalise sequel material.
Cameron made the movie he wanted to make. He helped write the screenplay, directed and produced it. If that makes him a sell out in your opinion then that's on you.
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Old 04-07-2023, 03:51 AM   #7376
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Those movies were made when he was becoming a star director. Now he is King Of The Hill. That changes a person's perspective. It will show in his work. You can argue all day long, but the numbers show his success.
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Cameron made the movie he wanted to make. He helped write the screenplay, directed and produced it. If that makes him a sell out in your opinion then that's on you.
It's alright lol, put your wee pitchforks away, I said I liked the film. Jeez you Avatar fanboys are becoming as delicate as the Marvel/SW ones. Its OK to like a film and also have issues with it you know.
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Old 04-07-2023, 04:40 AM   #7377
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It's alright lol, put your wee pitchforks away, I said I liked the film. Jeez you Avatar fanboys are becoming as delicate as the Marvel/SW ones. Its OK to like a film and also have issues with it you know.
I am not an Avatar fanboy. I am a James Cameron fanboy.
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Old 04-07-2023, 04:49 AM   #7378
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Way of the Water digital iTunes extras - Over 3 hours worth
Typical MCU movie digital extras - often less than an hour’s worth

Hard to say whether I’m more appreciative of in depth behind scenes extras of the Avatar franchise or more disappointed with the bare bones attitude of the MCU behind the scenes extras. Both come from the same company.
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Old 04-07-2023, 04:51 AM   #7379
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Way of the Water digital iTunes extras - Over 3 hours worth
Typical MCU movie digital extras - often less than an hourís worth

Hard to say whether Iím more appreciative of in depth behind scenes extras of the Avatar franchise or more disappointed with the bare bones attitude of the MCU behind the scenes extras. Both come from the same company.
It's more complicated than that. Disney didn't buy Fox until fairly recently, and JC had been working on that sequel for over a decade. It's very much possible that it was JC's call to have that many extras.

Also I would disagree that the MCU extras are "less than an hour's worth," if you include the audio commentary, which is as long as the movie.
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Old 04-07-2023, 04:57 AM   #7380
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It's more complicated than that. Disney didn't buy Fox until fairly recently, and JC had been working on that sequel for over a decade. It's very much possible that it was JC's call to have that many extras.

Also I would disagree that the MCU extras are "less than an hour's worth," if you include the audio commentary, which is as long as the movie.
I donít include commentary. Wakanda Foreverís extras without commentary adds up to fewer than 45 minutes and when you think of the underwater scenes and the behind the scenes trauma that is a huge disappointment.
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