Arrow Video / Arrow Academy USA Discussion Thread - Page 691 - Blu-ray Forum

StingingVelvet · 11-27-2018, 03:44 PM

I think there's something to be said for the idea that license contracts have labels lock things because they can, but for UHD the same licenses can happen without that restriction being available. After all it's not like no Arrow UK releases are region-free, as many are, and the same for Twilight Time US releases and whatnot. Labels like Kino have basically said they lock everything to avoid doing overseas customer support, rather than because all their contracts insist on it. In other words I think people are jumping to conclusions that just because there's no region-coding on UHD a label couldn't do a single territory license.

Anyway, as Geoff says, the barriers are more cost and waiting for more players to be out there. Arrow said that themselves on Twitter, I believe, and did not mention region-coding.

jshaide · 11-27-2018, 03:52 PM

I can't wait to own three copies of ROBOCOP.

postmodel · 11-27-2018, 03:57 PM

https://twitter.com/ArrowHelp/status...36090278871043

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@ArrowHelp
Hi Matthew, Robocop is definitely coming in the later part of next year but there are no confirmed UHD plans at this time.

Well that confirms it'll be a late 2019 release, but doesn't quite confirm it won't be UHD.

Geoff D · 11-27-2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I think there's something to be said for the idea that license contracts have labels lock things because they can, but for UHD the same licenses can happen without that restriction being available. After all it's not like no Arrow UK releases are region-free, as many are, and the same for Twilight Time US releases and whatnot. Labels like Kino have basically said they lock everything to avoid doing overseas customer support, rather than because all their contracts insist on it. In other words I think people are jumping to conclusions that just because there's no region-coding on UHD a label couldn't do a single territory license.

Anyway, as Geoff says, the barriers are more cost and waiting for more players to be out there. Arrow said that themselves on Twitter, I believe, and did not mention region-coding.

Oh for sure, not every indie release ever has been locked but it still comes as a surprise that the likes of Universal and Warners (who were also major players in region-free HD DVD while it was still alive) are so intent on having their licensed product locked, so I was just spitballing why.

As I alluded to, if MGM actually bothered to release some of their own product in 4K via their current distribution deal with Fox - woah there, what a crazy notion - then a lot of these discussions wouldn't even be taking place, we'd possibly already have 4K Rocky and Robo and Terminator and Silence of the Lambs and Princess Bride and all sorts of other goodness. TBH I'm still praying that another major buys up the studio, if only to dismantle it (it's doing no-one any good in its current zombified state) because at least then the catalogue might get the 4K disc treatment it deserves before the plug gets pulled on physical media.

StingingVelvet · 11-27-2018, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by postmodel

Well that confirms it'll be a late 2019 release, but doesn't quite confirm it won't be UHD.

That's honestly a good sign. Companies always say no confirmed plans until something is announced officially, and they're not denying it...

ltb2.0 · 11-27-2018, 05:01 PM

All I want is for Christmas from Arrow is some Sonny Chiba or Etsuko Shihomi announcements.

DukeTogo84 · 11-27-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ltb2.0

All I want is for Christmas from Arrow is some Sonny Chiba or Etsuko Shihomi announcements.

Sister Street Fighter would be amazing news. They have held the rights nearing two years it seems for the trilogy. Not sure, what the hold up is.

ltb2.0 · 11-27-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Sister Street Fighter would be amazing news. They have held the rights nearing two years it seems for the trilogy. Not sure, what the hold up is.

They know I want it, so they are deliberately keeping it under wraps.

tisdivine · 11-27-2018, 10:27 PM

Anyone want to sell me their Viva l’italia and/or Henri-Georges Clouzot's Inferno blooklets? I swear I just cant win with Arrow booklets lol and yes I really am this crazy lol

Shoot me a PM and I can paypal asap.

Thanks. : )

Darth Marcus · 11-28-2018, 02:03 PM

From Arrow's Facebook:

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***NEW ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE COMING!***

Join us this Friday (November 30th) at 3.00pm GMT / 7.00am PST / 10.00am EST for our February title reveals!

BarnDoor · 11-28-2018, 02:13 PM

Doesn't seem to match anything from the known list. Can't be just a hammer-related clue (either for Hammer or perhaps Fred Williamson), as they'd just show a Hammer surely. Someone suggested a Vengeance trilogy set, but is there any suggestion the rights were up for grabs? A new US release of The Toolbox Murders is also possible, as is a UK release of Hardware.

It could also be something for the next AHP set, any candidates?

KJones77 · 11-28-2018, 02:40 PM

Tim Allen's Home Improvement box-set?

billy pilgrim · 11-28-2018, 03:01 PM

Perhaps The Hitcher?

cakefactory · 11-28-2018, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by billy pilgrim

Perhaps The Hitcher?

What would the hammer have to do with it?

mdaniels · 11-28-2018, 03:06 PM

What about Drive from 2011?

bsend · 11-28-2018, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cakefactory

What would the hammer have to do with it?

Maybe it's two separate films?

Toolbox Murders
The Hitcher

cakefactory · 11-28-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bsend

Maybe it's two separate films?

Toolbox Murders
The Hitcher

That would be nice. I've wanted to own The Hitcher since I saw it way back when in the early 00s. I can't really remember much about it, just that it really felt like a portrayal of a nightmare in a way few other films have. Only Miracle Mile really provoked the same reaction for me.

Puffy · 11-28-2018, 04:47 PM

Breakdown staring Kurt Russell?

BarnDoor · 11-28-2018, 04:56 PM

In the UK thread someone suggested The Fifth Cord, based on Google Image Search saying 'Extension Cord'. This makes perfect sense given that we know Bazzoni's The Possessed is coming in February. Looks like another potential double feature.

cakefactory · 11-28-2018, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BarnDoor

In the UK thread someone suggested The Fifth Cord, based on Google Image Search saying 'Extension Cord'. Probably as good a guess as any, and makes perfect sense given that Bazzoni's The Possessed is coming in February. Looks like another potential double feature.

I thought "Fifth cord" immediately, but there are only two there, and the hammer!

11-28-2018, 02:13 PM	#13811
BarnDoor Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:138 Blu-ray collection:5062 Trading Score:3	Doesn't seem to match anything from the known list. Can't be just a hammer-related clue (either for Hammer or perhaps Fred Williamson), as they'd just show a Hammer surely. Someone suggested a Vengeance trilogy set, but is there any suggestion the rights were up for grabs? A new US release of The Toolbox Murders is also possible, as is a UK release of Hardware. It could also be something for the next AHP set, any candidates? Last edited by BarnDoor; 11-28-2018 at 02:19 PM.

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11-27-2018, 03:44 PM	#13801
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:513 Blu-ray collection:2017 DVD collection:159 Digital collection:19 Trading Score:69	I think there's something to be said for the idea that license contracts have labels lock things because they can, but for UHD the same licenses can happen without that restriction being available. After all it's not like no Arrow UK releases are region-free, as many are, and the same for Twilight Time US releases and whatnot. Labels like Kino have basically said they lock everything to avoid doing overseas customer support, rather than because all their contracts insist on it. In other words I think people are jumping to conclusions that just because there's no region-coding on UHD a label couldn't do a single territory license. Anyway, as Geoff says, the barriers are more cost and waiting for more players to be out there. Arrow said that themselves on Twitter, I believe, and did not mention region-coding.

11-27-2018, 03:52 PM	#13802
jshaide Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2014 Location:East Coast! 4K collection:52 Blu-ray collection:4638 DVD collection:801 Trading Score:5	I can't wait to own three copies of ROBOCOP.

11-27-2018, 05:01 PM	#13806
ltb2.0 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2017 4K collection:230 Blu-ray collection:2481 DVD collection:252 Digital collection:2 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:2	All I want is for Christmas from Arrow is some Sonny Chiba or Etsuko Shihomi announcements.

11-27-2018, 10:27 PM	#13809
tisdivine Special Member Member since:Jan 2013 Location:Miami/Brooklyn/Vegas 4K collection:97 Blu-ray collection:354 Trading Score:10	Anyone want to sell me their Viva l’italia and/or Henri-Georges Clouzot's Inferno blooklets? I swear I just cant win with Arrow booklets lol and yes I really am this crazy lol Shoot me a PM and I can paypal asap. Thanks. : )

11-28-2018, 02:40 PM	#13812
KJones77 Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2018 Location:Virginia, United States 4K collection:16 Blu-ray collection:925 DVD collection:5	Tim Allen's Home Improvement box-set?

11-28-2018, 03:01 PM	#13813
billy pilgrim Active Member Member since:Nov 2016 Location:3rd Stone From the Sun 4K collection:88 Blu-ray collection:5989 DVD collection:350 Trading Score:1	Perhaps The Hitcher?

11-28-2018, 03:06 PM	#13815
mdaniels Active Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 4K collection:176 Blu-ray collection:2241 DVD collection:576 iTunes collection:8 Trading Score:4	What about Drive from 2011?

11-28-2018, 04:47 PM	#13818
Puffy Power Member Member since:May 2017 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:170 Trading Score:1	Breakdown staring Kurt Russell?

11-28-2018, 04:56 PM	#13819
BarnDoor Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:138 Blu-ray collection:5062 Trading Score:3	In the UK thread someone suggested The Fifth Cord, based on Google Image Search saying 'Extension Cord'. This makes perfect sense given that we know Bazzoni's The Possessed is coming in February. Looks like another potential double feature.

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