Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

Haha just saw this. You're off your rocker with the s*** you're saying. I'm by no means strictly advocating digital. Many many times I've reiterated they both have pros and cons. When you look at things rationally instead of slamming you're hands on the table yelling "digital is the devil" you can notice that.

I never once mentioned a watch and youre whole watch philosophy is preposterous. No I wouldn't watch a movie on my watch. I don't watch movies on my phone either (something you will again ignore). However I actually am good with choice. For some crazy reason I realize the world is not all "me, me, me". There are actually people with different ideas on how to watch something.

Also just so you're aware most movies in theaters are digital. You better grab your pocket sign and get to your local theater.

Yes and already the cinema is suffering because of it. Digital is no match for film in that regard either.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by master gandhi

What is their competition doing that's so much better? I'm not exactly defending Apple, though. I like their products, but I agree they aren't as innovative as they once were. It's just that the competition's products aren't that much more innovative either IMO. As for iTunes specifically, they do digital really well. I don't like the idea that some of your purchased iTunes content could someday be removed without compensation, but maybe if that really happened on a large scale, there would be grounds for a class action law suit against them. Now that would be a shame if it came to that. That item in their Ts & Cs seems like a "just in case" and not something devious.

I just find Siri to be useless. Google now is much better at voice recognition etc.. I don't want that to be the case, it just is.

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes and already the cinema is suffering because of it. Digital is no match for film in that regard either.

How so? Serious question, maybe I don't fully understand. I know that 70mm IMAX film can get WAY more detail than what's on a Blu-ray; but not sure how 4K digital would compare. You have to remember film is very expensive and degrades over time.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by hogger129

How so? Serious question, maybe I don't fully understand. I know that 70mm IMAX film can get WAY more detail than what's on a Blu-ray; but not sure how 4K digital would compare. You have to remember film is very expensive and degrades over time.

I just find film to look classier.

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I just find film to look classier.

I feel like this is opinion rather than fact. I would think that the cost of 70mm film and the IMAX cameras alone would cause it not even to be considered by most studios. And if they're going to knock it down to 4K for distribution on home video anyway, what would be the point of not just shooting natively in 4K?

But back on topic, Blu-ray is the clear king-of-the-hill these days. There's no point to a digital copy of a movie unless it doesn't have DRM. If I can't put it on a flash drive and watch it on an HTPC software player or plug into my PS3, what is the point of a digital copy? Digital is convenient, that's about where the advantages end though.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by hogger129

I feel like this is opinion rather than fact. I would think that the cost of 70mm film and the IMAX cameras alone would cause it not even to be considered by most studios. And if they're going to knock it down to 4K for distribution on home video anyway, what would be the point of not just shooting natively in 4K?

But back on topic, Blu-ray is the clear king-of-the-hill these days. There's no point to a digital copy of a movie unless it doesn't have DRM. If I can't put it on a flash drive and watch it on an HTPC software player or plug into my PS3, what is the point of a digital copy? Digital is convenient, that's about where the advantages end though.

Well, I used to virtually live in the cinema and I honestly think the cinema has gone back in quality unless you attend every screening in IMAX.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It's a shame because you are (IMO) contributing to a mobile only film world in future.

I can never understand these types of comments. What makes your way of consuming media any better than mine? When you bought blu rays you were contributing to the end of dvd. When you bought dvd, you were contributing to the end of VHS. When anyone bought home video media, they were contributing to the end of cinema. Give me a break. Cinema owners were complaining back in the day when VHS films were releasing too quickly after the initial theater run. All of this fear mongering is such nonsense. I watch my digital movies on my plasma with my BOSE system. I didn't use my discs anymore so I felt no reason to keep them around. I watch my media the way I want to.

[tiger_qc]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, I used to virtually live in the cinema and I honestly think the cinema has gone back in quality unless you attend every screening in IMAX.

I didn't visit a regular cinema in 10 years, it's IMAX or nothing and our is now all digital which is great. We also have the biggest screen in Canada (100'x75') and the best sound system. They have the most comfortable seats with A LOT of rooms for the feet, it's very steep and they serve alcohol, you can't get any better.

[doctor_who]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

i can never understand these types of comments. What makes your way of consuming media any better than mine? When you bought blu rays you were contributing to the end of dvd. When you bought dvd, you were contributing to the end of vhs. When anyone bought home video media, they were contributing to the end of cinema. Give me a break. Cinema owners were complaining back in the day when vhs films were releasing too quickly after the initial theater run. All of this fear mongering is such nonsense. I watch my digital movies on my plasma with my bose system. I didn't use my discs anymore so i felt no reason to keep them around. I watch my media the way i want to.

stop being reasonable!

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I watch my digital movies on my plasma with my BOSE system.

Oh, you are one of those. This explains a lot.

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I didn't use my discs anymore so I felt no reason to keep them around.

We know, you've told us 15 or more times, 14 times too many.

[PenguinMaster]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I can never understand these types of comments. What makes your way of consuming media any better than mine? When you bought blu rays you were contributing to the end of dvd. When you bought dvd, you were contributing to the end of VHS. When anyone bought home video media, they were contributing to the end of cinema. Give me a break. Cinema owners were complaining back in the day when VHS films were releasing too quickly after the initial theater run. All of this fear mongering is such nonsense. I watch my digital movies on my plasma with my BOSE system. I didn't use my discs anymore so I felt no reason to keep them around. I watch my media the way I want to.

While I find Steedeel's comments about a mobile-only future to be absurd there is a clear separation between digital media and physical media. VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray are all distributed the same way. After buying the physical media you don't need any support from the studios to play it. You can play it for as long as you want and sell or give it away to whoever you want. All physical formats have the same amount of control from the studios and distributors.

While I personally prefer buying Blu-ray to DVD I have no problem with the people who buy DVDs. They don't want to pay for extra quality and that's fine. They aren't sacrificing their rights for a bit of extra convenience like the digital supporters.

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I can never understand these types of comments. What makes your way of consuming media any better than mine? When you bought blu rays you were contributing to the end of dvd. When you bought dvd, you were contributing to the end of VHS. When anyone bought home video media, they were contributing to the end of cinema. Give me a break. Cinema owners were complaining back in the day when VHS films were releasing too quickly after the initial theater run. All of this fear mongering is such nonsense. I watch my digital movies on my plasma with my BOSE system. I didn't use my discs anymore so I felt no reason to keep them around. I watch my media the way I want to.

Thing is each time it was a step up in quality...........digital is very much a step back.
Same as LCD over Plasma is.

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by Cevolution

Oh, you are one of those. This explains a lot.



We know, you've told us 15 or more times, 14 times too many.

Not sure what this response means. I am pointing out my setup to indicate that I don't watch movies on mobile devices as was suggested. What makes you any different in terms of vanity if that is what your suggesting when you list your 2000 blu ray collection? Is this not a vanity thing?

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

While I find Steedeel's comments about a mobile-only future to be absurd there is a clear separation between digital media and physical media. VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray are all distributed the same way. After buying the physical media you don't need any support from the studios to play it. You can play it for as long as you want and sell or give it away to whoever you want. All physical formats have the same amount of control from the studios and distributors.

While I personally prefer buying Blu-ray to DVD I have no problem with the people who buy DVDs. They don't want to pay for extra quality and that's fine. They aren't sacrificing their rights for a bit of extra convenience like the digital supporters.

I am not debating any of this. For me, I found that I was not using my discs anymore. I was just buying them and placing them on my shelf. I still had two and three year old blu rays in the cellophane. It just was irrational to me. I don't want collections anymore. I only have a couple of discs left, which are essentials for me and that is it. I don't want to bring in anything new. I don't want to buy discs just to put them on a shelf and not watch them. If you have 2000 blu rays, it will take you over five years to watch them if you viewed one a day. Are you really going to watch every movie you have on your shelf? Here is a video of people debating the issue. No one is insulting each other about their preference. I don't why it happens here. I don't want to argue with anyone. I am a movie lover just like all of you.

Physical vs. Digital Media - The GameOverGreggy Show Ep. 32 (Pt. 4) - YouTube

[PenguinMaster]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

I don't want to argue with anyone.

Why are you in this thread if you don't want to argue?

[darkknightman]

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

Why are you in this thread if you don't want to argue?

I don't want to argue. I just want to talk about my views and my preference and why I prefer digital. And hopefully connect with others who are in the same boat. And if I try to argue, I will get suspended as has happened in the past when I was accused of trolling even though I was defending myself from individuals here who were attacking me.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinMaster

While I find Steedeel's comments about a mobile-only future to be absurd there is a clear separation between digital media and physical media. VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray are all distributed the same way. After buying the physical media you don't need any support from the studios to play it. You can play it for as long as you want and sell or give it away to whoever you want. All physical formats have the same amount of control from the studios and distributors.

While I personally prefer buying Blu-ray to DVD I have no problem with the people who buy DVDs. They don't want to pay for extra quality and that's fine. They aren't sacrificing their rights for a bit of extra convenience like the digital supporters.

Why absurd? Would you feel that way if mobile movies were suddenly 2 dollars and tv screen versions 5 dollars? Because I know which one the masses would go for.

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by darkknightman

Not sure what this response means. I am pointing out my setup to indicate that I don't watch movies on mobile devices as was suggested. What makes you any different in terms of vanity if that is what your suggesting when you list your 2000 blu ray collection? Is this not a vanity thing?

Your idea of what I meant is way off track. The meaning had to do with quality and how your choice in audio system gives some insight about what you consider this to be, which also helps in gaining a better understanding of your standards when it comes to video.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Why absurd? Would you feel that way if mobile movies were suddenly 2 dollars and tv screen versions 5 dollars? Because I know which one the masses would go for.

It was something like one studio executive that made the screen size suggestion, and it was more of passing comment he made when being interviewed about the future of digital distribution. He's likely one of those types of executives that are highly paid, but have almost no clue how the technology (from a technical standpoint) actually works. I don't think that would ever fly even with most people who have transitioned to digital. They aren't going to want some kind of restriction to only be able to watch the digital file on a device of a certain screen size.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

It was something like one studio executive that made the screen size suggestion. I don't think that would ever fly even with most people who have transitioned to digital. They aren't going to want some kind of restriction to only be able to watch the digital file on a device of a certain screen size.

Mentioned two years running. You can bet they are planning this.