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Donnie_Yen · 04-03-2019, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigManDeath

From what I have read it seems to be the result of a bad pressing. I believe there was a plant in Taiwan that was responsible for a lot of the discs that have bronzed.

I see it the same way. But it is not only Mega Star, also Kam & Ronson and Panorama.

Kam & Ronson:

Bad Blood (Master Code: LP01, Mould Code: 7T33)
Womb Ghosts (Master Code: LP01, Mould Code: 7T33)

Both discs doesn't play in my Blu-ray drive and the bronzing is around the centre of the disc.

Panorama:

Election 1 and 2 (Master Code: LN91, Mould Code: FD88)
A1 (Master Code: LN91, Mould Code: FD88)
Overheard (Master Code: LN91, Mould Code: FD88)
Everlasting Regret (Master Code: LN91, Mould Code: FZ88)
Butterfly (Master Code: LN91, Mould Code: FZ88)
All's Well End's Well 2009 (Master Code: LP01, Mould Code: FD88)

All discs are bronzed. Election 1+2 and A1 are playing fine on my Blu-ray drive.
All's Well..... does not play. I will check the other movies tomorrow.

Naiera · 04-03-2019, 08:07 PM

So far for me, I have Look for a Star and Breaking News dead.

Accident, Exiled and Fire of Conscience (yay!) were fine and are now backed up.

Naiera · 04-03-2019, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie_Yen

... and Panorama.

Wut?

I have about a million Panorama releases! I'm going to need a new harddrive...

Sinister Ash · 04-03-2019, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naiera

So far for me, I have Look for a Star and Breaking News dead.

Accident, Exiled and Fire of Conscience (yay!) were fine and are now backed up.

How do you back up your blu rays? Is your method a 1 to 1 / 100% backed up image of the bluray without losing quality?

Donnie_Yen · 04-03-2019, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naiera

Wut?

I have about a million Panorama releases! I'm going to need a new harddrive...

Only check the first releases (from 2007 to 2009).
The other are fine (for now) and has different Master and Mould numbers.

Sky_Captain · 04-03-2019, 09:10 PM

Out of all my Asia titles, the only one that point blank refuses to play, is Vicol's release of Black Ransom (2010).

That was the first Region A disc I ever bought.

Naiera · 04-03-2019, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinister Ash

How do you back up your blu rays? Is your method a 1 to 1 / 100% backed up image of the bluray without losing quality?

MakeMKV

I keep the video, the main audio and the subtitles. MakeMKV only does 1:1 copying, but I don't keep menus and such.

I'm currently looking into a better backup solution for my discs, instead of using four different external harddrives. I keep all the movies and series I've ripped to sub (anime series and Korean movies, mostly) in MKV form so I don't have to rip every time I want to watch them.

Naiera · 04-03-2019, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie_Yen

Only check the first releases (from 2007 to 2009).
The other are fine (for now) and has different Master and Mould numbers.

Thank you. I'll be checking many

ZeTi · 04-03-2019, 10:06 PM

SNIPER by Dante Lam - bronzed but plays (for now). It's not as bad as i saw pictures of other bronzed discs ... will this get worse ?

Rest played fine (Exiled, etc)

Naiera · 04-03-2019, 10:47 PM

I assume you're referring to THE Sniper?

My copy is actually from Taiwan

Probably should check that one as well...

Sky_Captain · 04-04-2019, 09:36 AM

This thread lead me to check my French copy of Silent Hill again, and that's well dead lol

GR44 · 04-04-2019, 04:33 PM

What the...? This is some scary shit!

Fortunately, my copy of Wu xia, Legend of the Fist, and The Warlords are fine.

BigManDeath · 04-05-2019, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeTi

SNIPER by Dante Lam - bronzed but plays (for now). It's not as bad as i saw pictures of other bronzed discs ... will this get worse ?

Rest played fine (Exiled, etc)

Yes, it seems that once the bronzing begins it will eventually get worse and render the disc unplayable. I will never forget the day I realized that most of my Well Go USA blu-rays had bronzed and no longer played. Luckily, they replaced them all. Not going to happen for these Hong Kong/Taiwanese discs.

Ken81 · 04-05-2019, 08:17 PM

So does anyone know what causes this bronzing defect? Is it because of storage, humidity, etc?

e_d · 04-06-2019, 01:30 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc_bronzing

Futurhythm · 04-06-2019, 01:54 AM

All of mine still seem to be fine (again knocking all the wood). But I'm not gonna take any chances. I'll go and grab a new HDD today and start making backups of all these early discs.

I notice most of you seem to be in Europe and the Northern Hemisphere. I'm down in Australia. I wonder if the climate has any effect on the speed of this happening. I would've thought that the Australian climate would be worse for physical media.

Naiera · 04-06-2019, 02:05 AM

I think it's simply down to a chemical process that happens regardless of temperature. But I'm definitely near clueless about chemistry, so...

I'm sure I have more rotten discs than my Well Go The Man from Nowhere, Breaking News and Look for a Star, but I'm scared to find out

Donnie_Yen · 04-06-2019, 11:12 AM

Just checked my copy of Turning Point (CN Entertainment) and is bronzed and gone.

Master Code: LP01
Mould Code: ML06

Also some releases from Taiwan (Pony):

Mercury Man
A Tale of Legendary Libido

"P" from Thailand is gone too.

For the three movies the Master Code is LW84 and the Mould Code is IC0Z.

ZeTi · 04-06-2019, 11:50 AM

Ok, just checked my EXILED disc again and spotted the first bronze specks on there

neo_reloaded · 04-06-2019, 03:43 PM

Do more recent Hong Kong/Taiwan discs have different mould SID/IFPI codes? We're already up to 5 different "bad" ones from 2009ish (4 where the first two digits are unique, implying 4 different pressers?), so it's hard to believe that an entirely new set of pressers has been used since then.

I wonder if there was an issue with some material used in 2009-2010 that was sold by one company to many different pressers. The USA bronzing problem discs were mostly in that same time frame as well (Criterion, Well Go USA, Lionsgate, a few random Paramount and Universal releases pressed at the same plant, etc.).

I haven't checked exhaustively, but every Hong Kong release mentioned here that I've looked up now seems to be OOP (not available on YesAsia at least). Does that mean that were was only the one (presumably "bad") pressing in 2009? At least for most of the US discs, they've remained in print, meaning there are more recent "good" pressings that can be purchased. I have no naive hope that these Hong Kong companies will replace the discs for free and ship internationally and all that, but it'd at least be nice to be able to purchase a new pressing.

04-03-2019, 10:47 PM	#30
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:24	I assume you're referring to THE Sniper? My copy is actually from Taiwan Probably should check that one as well... Last edited by Naiera; 04-04-2019 at 02:11 AM.

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04-03-2019, 08:07 PM	#22
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:24	So far for me, I have Look for a Star and Breaking News dead. Accident, Exiled and Fire of Conscience (yay!) were fine and are now backed up.

04-03-2019, 09:10 PM	#26
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Out of all my Asia titles, the only one that point blank refuses to play, is Vicol's release of Black Ransom (2010). That was the first Region A disc I ever bought.

04-03-2019, 10:06 PM	#29
ZeTi Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Austria 4K collection:21 Blu-ray collection:658 Trading Score:15	SNIPER by Dante Lam - bronzed but plays (for now). It's not as bad as i saw pictures of other bronzed discs ... will this get worse ? Rest played fine (Exiled, etc)

04-04-2019, 09:36 AM	#31
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	This thread lead me to check my French copy of Silent Hill again, and that's well dead lol

04-04-2019, 04:33 PM	#32
GR44 Active Member Member since:Apr 2013 Location:Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:108 DVD collection:5	What the...? This is some scary shit! Fortunately, my copy of Wu xia, Legend of the Fist, and The Warlords are fine.

04-05-2019, 08:17 PM	#34
Ken81 Senior Member Member since:Jan 2013	So does anyone know what causes this bronzing defect? Is it because of storage, humidity, etc?

04-06-2019, 01:30 AM	#35
e_d Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2017 Location:Online	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc_bronzing

04-06-2019, 01:54 AM	#36
Futurhythm Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 Location:In Technicolor 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:12	All of mine still seem to be fine (again knocking all the wood). But I'm not gonna take any chances. I'll go and grab a new HDD today and start making backups of all these early discs. I notice most of you seem to be in Europe and the Northern Hemisphere. I'm down in Australia. I wonder if the climate has any effect on the speed of this happening. I would've thought that the Australian climate would be worse for physical media.

04-06-2019, 02:05 AM	#37
Naiera Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:2 Trading Score:24	I think it's simply down to a chemical process that happens regardless of temperature. But I'm definitely near clueless about chemistry, so... I'm sure I have more rotten discs than my Well Go The Man from Nowhere, Breaking News and Look for a Star, but I'm scared to find out

04-06-2019, 11:12 AM	#38
Donnie_Yen Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Austria Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:328 Blu-ray collection:2710 DVD collection:244	Just checked my copy of Turning Point (CN Entertainment) and is bronzed and gone. Master Code: LP01 Mould Code: ML06 Also some releases from Taiwan (Pony): Mercury Man A Tale of Legendary Libido "P" from Thailand is gone too. For the three movies the Master Code is LW84 and the Mould Code is IC0Z.

04-06-2019, 11:50 AM	#39
ZeTi Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Austria 4K collection:21 Blu-ray collection:658 Trading Score:15	Ok, just checked my EXILED disc again and spotted the first bronze specks on there

04-06-2019, 03:43 PM	#40
neo_reloaded Banned Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:72	Do more recent Hong Kong/Taiwan discs have different mould SID/IFPI codes? We're already up to 5 different "bad" ones from 2009ish (4 where the first two digits are unique, implying 4 different pressers?), so it's hard to believe that an entirely new set of pressers has been used since then. I wonder if there was an issue with some material used in 2009-2010 that was sold by one company to many different pressers. The USA bronzing problem discs were mostly in that same time frame as well (Criterion, Well Go USA, Lionsgate, a few random Paramount and Universal releases pressed at the same plant, etc.). I haven't checked exhaustively, but every Hong Kong release mentioned here that I've looked up now seems to be OOP (not available on YesAsia at least). Does that mean that were was only the one (presumably "bad") pressing in 2009? At least for most of the US discs, they've remained in print, meaning there are more recent "good" pressings that can be purchased. I have no naive hope that these Hong Kong companies will replace the discs for free and ship internationally and all that, but it'd at least be nice to be able to purchase a new pressing.

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