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Old 01-04-2011, 06:03 PM   #1
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. No need for a projector imho for most with this size.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/m...p-155-inch-ol/
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:28 PM   #2
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Whats the price tag? This is getting ridiculous.
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:33 PM   #3
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And I was looking at a 65" and thought it was big...
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:41 PM   #4
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Whats the price tag? This is getting ridiculous.
"no word yet on the price tag or release date" for the 92" it says in the article. also included is a 155" OLED display.
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:48 PM   #5
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"no word yet on the price tag or release date" for the 92" it says in the article. also included is a 155" OLED display.
I'd love to know the price tag on the OLED! LOL. Probably going to be in the neighborhood of $20000 - $30000.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:27 PM   #6
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I'd love to know the price tag on the OLED! LOL. Probably going to be in the neighborhood of $20000 - $30000.
Yeah, maybe more like $100,000
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:55 PM   #7
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you can get a great projector and screen for less than the 82"s are running now.
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Old 01-04-2011, 09:27 PM   #8
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. No need for a projector imho for most with this size.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/m...p-155-inch-ol/
I'll take two please!
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Old 01-05-2011, 07:35 AM   #9
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Wow...

I should have gone to CES...right around the corner from me...

This is awesome news...I WISH I could afford one of these or even find the room for one...

Anyonce care to speculate what the PQ would be on screens this big?
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:13 PM   #10
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MSRP price is supposedly going to be $5,000 to $6,000.
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:01 PM   #11
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That's not that bad!
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:06 PM   #12
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I would have to see it before judging it, but bigger is not always better. My nephew has the Mitsubishi 82" DLP and the PQ leaves alot to be desired. I would be more interested in seeing the upcoming 72" LG LZ9700 LED, 71" Vizio, 70" Sharp Quattron, or one of the 70+" Samsungs that are rumored to be at CES.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:34 AM   #13
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bigger is not always better. My nephew has the Mitsubishi 82" DLP and the PQ leaves alot to be desired.
This is what I was concerned with...

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I would be more interested in seeing the upcoming 72" LG LZ9700 LED, 71" Vizio, 70" Sharp Quattron, or one of the 70+" Samsungs that are rumored to be at CES.
Hmmm...it seems you feel the cutoff is around 70 inches for a TV display...I suppose that makes sense in terms of quality...
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:03 AM   #14
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I would have to see it before judging it, but bigger is not always better. My nephew has the Mitsubishi 82" DLP and the PQ leaves alot to be desired. I would be more interested in seeing the upcoming 72" LG LZ9700 LED, 71" Vizio, 70" Sharp Quattron, or one of the 70+" Samsungs that are rumored to be at CES.

I have the 82 inch and it wasn't an easy decision because there was almost no where to see one, and due to quickly made comments on different boards that were dissuading me, it was a tougher decision. . Negative comments are sometimes useful, I agree, but I had a dilemma. I had a 65 inch rear projection CRT and didn't want to go smaller. I was all set to buy the Vizio 72 inch 3D set for $3500 until they dropped it and replaced it with a somewhat lesser model, and also with passive glasses which I didn't think would be quite as good as the shutter glasses from what I've read. But to be honest, I wasn't really happy with 65 inches. At the same time, I didn't want a bad picture quality, nor did I want a dim looking washed out set. So I went to one of the only local stores that carried the 82 inch and 73 inch DLP's and they looked great, but not quite as bright as other TV's in the store. Not a big difference. Then I realized something. As I gazed around at these other TV's, plasma's LCD's I noticed that picture quality actually looked inferior to the Mitsubishi. It's liked the Mits looked real on some blue rays, and many of the smaller models looked garish. I'm sure they could be adjusted, but they weren't.

Then it dawned on me that all the sets in the place were up to 90 to 100% brightness or near. Some looked like flashlights! The PQ wasn't exceptional either. Also fluorescent store lights right over the 82 inch I hoped for, were washing it out a little. But still it looked pretty darn good. And the 82 inch was bright enough in that store, but again in this brightness peeing contest the little bity lcd next to it was a bit brighter. So I asked for a remote and checked settings and sure enough it was on 90%. So basically if you take 3 TV's, LCD, plasma and DLP and turn all 3 up to 100% brightness, the LCD will win. But what I figured out was that if you set all 3 TV's to a reasonably bright picture that most people would end up seeing at home, then ALL 3 are the same brightness since all three can achieve that easily. In fact a 73 inch DLP is the SAME as the 82 inch in terms of brightness because no one sets them at 100%. Instead they just turn it up to the right point where it looks bright, but just before it becomes beaming or garish etc. So the 73 inch might be set at 35% brightness and the 82 inch might need 45% brightness. And that's no big deal. AS for changing bulbs, I figured out I watch about 8 hours a day, so that's a $99 bulb every 2 years which is also no big deal and seems worth it.

I figured all this out after a lot of research. In fact I worried for well over a year over it. I didn't want a dim set! At any rate what I saw in the store was pretty good, but I still had doubts. As I kept thinking about it, it occurred to me that maybe the bulb in the store was getting old. The guy runs it 12 hours a day and turns it way up to compensate for bright fluorescent ceiling lights! I called Mitsubishi and ask them for more stores I could visit and I called around to no avail unless I wanted to go like 100 miles. I read forums and plenty of people said it was bright and a very clear looking set. So finally I decided to order one off Amazon knowing I could return it. It arrived and I got the best demo any one could have, in my house, when I was relaxed and with plenty of time to use it. I turned it on and got kind of nervous, but reminded myself that it took 3 minutes to warm up. Then stood back and looked at it and it was breath taking! Out of box settings were overly bright and I had to turn the settings down from brilliant to bright, and set brightness to 45. It looked NOTHING like what I saw in the show room. It was way better! I then got it some HD content from a nature channel. I also knew not to make the mistake nervous new owners make of running up to it. I watched between 8 and 25 feet. It was so clear it felt like I was looking through a window into the jungle! And yes, it looks good up close, but again at 82 inches it's better not to be right up to it. And from what I read in the forums, every pixel is displayed in 1080 so of course you are seeing everything.

Being bright, clear and 82 inch, I knew there was no way I'd want other screen types now. Even though they are nice they'd never have that immerseive feeling. Also this was during day time with some windows. I don't have any windows facing the TV directly with the sun shining right on the TV. But if I did, that would be ridiculous even to see that on an LCD. And no matter what type of TV I had, I wouldn't want to see TV that way. However, the room was fairly brightly lit during day time and the TV looked great. I tried out the 3D with Grand Canyon Adventure and the depth made it feel a lot like I was there. Also bubbles and other things flew out of the screen about 15 feet at times even though most 3D only came out about 3 to 6 feet. So if someone out there wants a bigger set, the 82 is great. And I know I wrote a lot, but after what I went through, felt like sharing it. I can now see that the people saying not to get it may not have seen it under the right circumstances or with the right content. As for the 92 inch, I have no way of knowing since I've never seen one. I'm guessing it will probably look fine.

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Old 01-06-2011, 06:21 PM   #15
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MSRP price is supposedly going to be $5,000 to $6,000.
For a DLP based rear projection set (probably still using the same mercury bulbs), that is actually pretty steep. Cut it down to say $2000 (or puts lasers in it) and then maybe we'll talk.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:55 AM   #16
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I have to ask...if you have the room for a 92" TV, why not go ahead and get a projector and screen? You could probably get it for half the cost.

A 92" DLP TV also sounds like a huge eye sore to me.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:59 AM   #17
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I have to ask...if you have the room for a 92" TV, why not go ahead and get a projector and screen? You could probably get it for half the cost.

A 92" DLP TV also sounds like a huge eye sore to me.
I rent and live in a large one bedroom apartment. in order for a projector to be " effective" you need a completely dark room, preferably a large room that has absolutley no open light source. Preferrably a Basement. So that option is out for me, and I know i am not the only one. it's just my preference......
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:24 PM   #18
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I rent and live in a large one bedroom apartment. in order for a projector to be " effective" you need a completely dark room, preferably a large room that has absolutley no open light source. Preferrably a Basement. So that option is out for me, and I know i am not the only one. it's just my preference......
If I remember correctly that the light output of the larger mits TV isn't as bright as the smaller sets suggests that it uses the same lamp to power it. I wouldn't be too surprised if it uses the same bulb.
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I thought my 55' was big the 92' must be huge.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:48 PM   #20
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Why can't Mitsubishi make something new?!?! It would be badass if they made LEDs and Plasmas that are 92 inches or higher.
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