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Old 05-30-2022, 03:20 PM   #361
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I'll bet the Quest's decent success is the reasoning for why Sony is pushing forward sooner with the PSVR2. Competition. I guess that's a reason to push forward, but I don't think the PS5 is ready for it yet. I'm still waiting for a load of games each month to choose from and see on sale down the road, like the PS4.

Then again, with the fuel prices higher than ever, food prices through the roof, and WWIII and a pandemic situation, I'll be surprised if PSVR2 is a big hit. But maybe it's the right timing for it according to Sony. I would have thought Holiday 2023 at the earliest, but they're aiming for early 2023.



The VR games were limited in what was possible for awhile there until more games opened up the possibilities like Astrobot, so I can understand why you lost interest, aside from having to completely close off the outside world every time you put on the face mask, along with the dizziness concerns at times.



It's good you thoroughly enjoyed the games that you played before uninstalling them as you mentioned, and are looking forward to PSVR2. What kind of new VR games would you expect that weren't possible with PSVR1?

I hear the Quest library is wider with more range than PSVR1's.

I'm still working my way through Moss 2 VR, Foxy Tales VR, and a few others in my PSVR library.

Wait, you got a PS5? Cool, nice going. Hopefully at a fair price, but enjoy!
Games like Statik that are built ground up for VR.

Yes mate, I finally got one! I was invited to buy one directly from Sony. I love it. Currently playing A Plague Tale, itís great imo. Many say itís not true 4K but it looks next gen to me.
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Old 05-30-2022, 04:54 PM   #362
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Games like Statik that are built ground up for VR.

Yes mate, I finally got one! I was invited to buy one directly from Sony. I love it. Currently playing A Plague Tale, it’s great imo. Many say it’s not true 4K but it looks next gen to me.
That is great news, congratulations on your new PS5, Steedeel. That was smart to sign up with Sony for one.

Plague's Tale on PS5 I bet looks great. What games are you planning to play soon?

With that PS4 camera adapter from Sony that I have, I can play PSVR games on PS5, but I never got around to it as I still have my PS4, and transferring all of my PS4 games off of my PS4 to the PS5 is a major undertaking, having tried to put a lot of 2D PS4 games onto PS5 and deciding to keep most PS4 games on the PS4 external hard drive.

So I'm still using my PS4 for most PS4 games and of course all PSVR games. They said the difference is not huge, so that makes it easier, considering all of the PSVR wiring is pretty complicated to sort out from the PS4 to PS5.

But mostly, because PS5 doesn't support blu ray 3D even with the PSVR attached. PS4 still supports blu ray 3D. Main reason I'm keeping PSVR on PS4.
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Old 05-30-2022, 05:16 PM   #363
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That is great news, congratulations on your new PS5, Steedeel. That was smart to sign up with Sony for one.

Plague's Tale on PS5 I bet looks great. What games are you planning to play soon?

With that PS4 camera adapter from Sony that I have, I can play PSVR games on PS5, but I never got around to it as I still have my PS4, and transferring all of my PS4 games off of my PS4 to the PS5 is a major undertaking, having tried to put a lot of 2D PS4 games onto PS5 and deciding to keep most PS4 games on the PS4 external hard drive.

So I'm still using my PS4 for most PS4 games and of course all PSVR games. They said the difference is not huge, so that makes it easier, considering all of the PSVR wiring is pretty complicated to sort out from the PS4 to PS5.

But mostly, because PS5 doesn't support blu ray 3D even with the PSVR attached. PS4 still supports blu ray 3D. Main reason I'm keeping PSVR on PS4.
Thanks. Iím planning to buy Sifu, Spidey, Elden Ring and Deathloop.
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Old 05-31-2022, 12:32 AM   #364
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Unlike you, I have remained invested throughout the last six years. I donít know why some folk lose interest and others remain engaged.
I know some mentioned the poor resolution but I was able to overlook it for the sheer immersion on offer.
I did feel the moves are essential to recreate that tactile sensation. Throwing objects and interacting with weapons, locks, solving puzzles etc.. all work better with the moves.

VR came along at the right time for me. I felt gaming was becoming a little stale and VR reinvigorated my love of gaming.
It had the knock on effect of reigniting my love of gaming in general. Iím now ready to go again with next gen gaming having just obtained a PS5. No doubt I will be buying this next gen headset.
Quite excited about the prospect of using the Pulse headphones for 3D sound while in VR.
I didn't mind the resolution. I was perfectly happy with the visuals in games like Wanderer, Astrobot, and Deracine. I love fancy graphics as much as anyone but that's what I have a high-end PC for. I don't need it all the time.

Ultimately, I am not convinced that VR and traditional gaming go hand-in-hand, as donning the headset actually makes me feel significantly less immersed in gameplay. More often than not, when I'm playing a game I enjoy in VR I just wish I could take the dang thing off. That said, I really did like exploring virtual spaces in VR. I enjoy the increased environmental immersion. I'm sure PSVR2 will get its share of narrative-driven experiences that will be more along the lines of what I'm looking for from VR so I'll be on board for that.
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I didn't mind the resolution. I was perfectly happy with the visuals in games like Wanderer, Astrobot, and Deracine. I love fancy graphics as much as anyone but that's what I have a high-end PC for. I don't need it all the time.

Ultimately, I am not convinced that VR and traditional gaming go hand-in-hand, as donning the headset actually makes me feel significantly less immersed in gameplay. More often than not, when I'm playing a game I enjoy in VR I just wish I could take the dang thing off. That said, I really did like exploring virtual spaces in VR. I enjoy the increased environmental immersion. I'm sure PSVR2 will get its share of narrative-driven experiences that will be more along the lines of what I'm looking for from VR so I'll be on board for that.
Yeah, Iím the opposite. For a time, I didnít want to return to flat gaming. It sounds like VR just isnít for you.
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I'm really hoping PSVR2 offers blu ray 3D support, and adds a movie theater that can be explored on foot freely while the movie disc or digital film is playing, even having access to the projection booth, theater with seats, and concession stand and ticket booth.
They offered something, but it apparently could only play the movies they picked for a fee to watch, and required being online only. What a disappointment if that's how that was. I haven't tried it after hearing it was online only.

The chances of blu ray 3D support on PS5 seems slim though at the moment. Sony,leaders at one time for 3D blu rays, completely abandoned blu ray 3D.

I mention blu ray 3D since nearly every PSVR game has stereo 3D visuals.
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I watched my entire collection of 3 x3D blurays on it, and it was fine.

All i'm interested in with this version is how much and when. PSVR is amazing tech.
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Yeah, Iím the opposite. For a time, I didnít want to return to flat gaming. It sounds like VR just isnít for you.
Yeah, you've said that before, but I don't agree. I don't think it's the future of gaming, but I like some elements of it. I have a good friend who hasn't gone back to traditional gaming since he's embraced VR so I'm familiar with that level of enthusiasm for the medium. For him, it's how he'd prefer to consume pretty much all of his content. For me, it's an interesting diversion. The good news is that VR has gained enough traction that there should be plenty of content for casual and hardcore adopters.
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Any time a person has to put something on their entire face that closes them from the outside world, it's going to have a limited audience and won't be mainstream like Ready Player One the movie is suggesting VR will become.

The day we get augmented VR, that's another story where you can wear clear glasses, not sunglasses, and see VR in your daily life without closing off the outside world. That is the key.

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I watched my entire collection of 3 x3D blurays on it, and it was fine.

All i'm interested in with this version is how much and when. PSVR is amazing tech.
That's cool you have 3 blu ray 3D discs and were able to appreciate them in 3D.

I have probably 150 blu ray 3Ds, so it definitely is a nice back up to have PSVR on PS4 to play them on just in case my 3D Projector or 3DTVs ever fail for some reason, but still a bit disappointing Sony isn't offering 3D support for it with their 3D PSVR2 machine.

As far as when, they're suggesting early 2023, so I would guess May 2023, and for the price, they need to keep it competitive with Quest's $299.99 introductory price, so I'm going to bet that Sony is going to offer it for 299.99, since it has a cord and depends on the PS5 for its power, skipping the internal power source costs of the Quest out of the box.

For the fancier PSVR2 models, I'll say it'll jump to 349.99 to 399.99 for the deluxe.
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Yeah, you've said that before, but I don't agree. I don't think it's the future of gaming, but I like some elements of it. I have a good friend who hasn't gone back to traditional gaming since he's embraced VR so I'm familiar with that level of enthusiasm for the medium. For him, it's how he'd prefer to consume pretty much all of his content. For me, it's an interesting diversion. The good news is that VR has gained enough traction that there should be plenty of content for casual and hardcore adopters.
I need to be careful with this reply lest I come across as too opinionated.

Iím just going by past experiences where I was utterly obsessed with the tech (bought it at launch) and I was very keen for my gaming friends (local and online) to love it as much as I did. I have noticed a consistency with folk who took to it immediately and folk who were not that impressed.
Folk who were not that impressed had their headset collecting dust within a year.
There seems to be a link with instant immersion and those that are not drawn in. The latter almost always (in my experience) are back to regular gaming exclusively within a 1-2 year timespan.

My experience is a micro section of the VR community but I was so gutted that friends didn't take to it as multiplayer would have been incredible playing with folks I knew.
So, Iím biased with this stuff and also aware that individual habits will differ, so Iím coming at this from my own disappointed angle.

Hope I didnít come across as forcing my opinion down your throat. I genuinely hope you love VR generation 2.
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Any time a person has to put something on their entire face that closes them from the outside world, it's going to have a limited audience and won't be mainstream like Ready Player One the movie is suggesting VR will become.

The day we get augmented VR, that's another story where you can wear clear glasses, not sunglasses, and see VR in your daily life without closing off the outside world. That is the key.



That's cool you have 3 blu ray 3D discs and were able to appreciate them in 3D.

I have probably 150 blu ray 3Ds, so it definitely is a nice back up to have PSVR on PS4 to play them on just in case my 3D Projector or 3DTVs ever fail for some reason, but still a bit disappointing Sony isn't offering 3D support for it with their 3D PSVR2 machine.

As far as when, they're suggesting early 2023, so I would guess May 2023, and for the price, they need to keep it competitive with Quest's $299.99 introductory price, so I'm going to bet that Sony is going to offer it for 299.99, since it has a cord and depends on the PS5 for its power, skipping the internal power source costs of the Quest out of the box.

For the fancier PSVR2 models, I'll say it'll jump to 349.99 to 399.99 for the deluxe.
VR will still require a closed off environment mate. AR and MR will have real world views. There would have to be some built in option to switch to a completely immersive, computer generated VR world.
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VR will still require a closed off environment mate. AR and MR will have real world views. There would have to be some built in option to switch to a completely immersive, computer generated VR world.
Thanks. That's true, even if they develop instant darkening lenses that block out all light and then present the virtual world in that. But with a press of a button, instant vision again while putting the VR game on pause automatically. To tend to the outside world quickly as needed.

That would be more comfortable for me too, as there are times I have the PSVR set on, and remember I have to tend to other tasks.
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I need to be careful with this reply lest I come across as too opinionated.

Iím just going by past experiences where I was utterly obsessed with the tech (bought it at launch) and I was very keen for my gaming friends (local and online) to love it as much as I did. I have noticed a consistency with folk who took to it immediately and folk who were not that impressed.
Folk who were not that impressed had their headset collecting dust within a year.
There seems to be a link with instant immersion and those that are not drawn in. The latter almost always (in my experience) are back to regular gaming exclusively within a 1-2 year timespan.

My experience is a micro section of the VR community but I was so gutted that friends didn't take to it as multiplayer would have been incredible playing with folks I knew.
So, Iím biased with this stuff and also aware that individual habits will differ, so Iím coming at this from my own disappointed angle.

Hope I didnít come across as forcing my opinion down your throat. I genuinely hope you love VR generation 2.
I think I will. I just don't think it will ever replace traditional gaming for me. I think my VR-enthusiast friend is in a similar place as you in that he's disappointed I didn't love VR. On the flip side, I'm disappointed he's not into Elden Ring, lol. I was hoping we'd do co-op but he only bought it to try the VR mod but he's not actually going to play through the game.

Right now both myself and that same friend are playing through Cyberpunk 2077 (he's using the VR mod) and he says he wouldn't even consider playing it on his monitor and I know I'd never play through it in VR. But I do think it would be cool to spend some time walking through the city in VR. That's the type of low-key experience that appeals to me. For me VR will be more of a supplement to regular gaming and I think the PSVR2 will offer a lot of that casual content in addition to stuff for more hardcore VR folks.
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I think I will. I just don't think it will ever replace traditional gaming for me. I think my VR-enthusiast friend is in a similar place as you in that he's disappointed I didn't love VR. On the flip side, I'm disappointed he's not into Elden Ring, lol. I was hoping we'd do co-op but he only bought it to try the VR mod but he's not actually going to play through the game.

Right now both myself and that same friend are playing through Cyberpunk 2077 (he's using the VR mod) and he says he wouldn't even consider playing it on his monitor and I know I'd never play through it in VR. But I do think it would be cool to spend some time walking through the city in VR. That's the type of low-key experience that appeals to me. For me VR will be more of a supplement to regular gaming and I think the PSVR2 will offer a lot of that casual content in addition to stuff for more hardcore VR folks.
Good points, although thankfully I have regained my desire for console gaming too. I am planning on getting Eldon Ring soon.

Yeah, for me VR is all about games that is best played in VR. Statik, for example. In that game, your hands are stuck in a device and you have to unlock the device by working out how to solve the puzzle. This all takes place in a atmospheric lab with some mysterious guy watching me.
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So question for everybody. What is your "dream" VR game? If Sony could show one PSVR2 game in their SOP today that would make you instantly say "I NEED this in my life" what would it be?

For me, it would be a kick ass Godzilla VR game! I would love nothing more than to stomp around in and lay waste to a giant virtual Tokyo and battle other giant kaiju, along with military tanks, jets, missiles, etc! Think Godzilla Save The Earth from the PS2 era in VR with modern graphics! OMG that would be my absolute dream VR game!!!
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So question for everybody. What is your "dream" VR game? If Sony could show one PSVR2 game in their SOP today that would make you instantly say "I NEED this in my life" what would it be?

For me, it would be a kick ass Godzilla VR game! I would love nothing more than to stomp around in and lay waste to a giant virtual Tokyo and battle other giant kaiju, along with military tanks, jets, missiles, etc! Think Godzilla Save The Earth from the PS2 era in VR with modern graphics! OMG that would be my absolute dream VR game!!!
Rumors are Coatsink is developing a Jurassic World survival horror launch title for PSVR2. I just want it to be real!

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The State of Play VR Event takes place in a couple hours or so. 3 PM Pacific US time.



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So question for everybody. What is your "dream" VR game? If Sony could show one PSVR2 game in their SOP today that would make you instantly say "I NEED this in my life" what would it be?

For me, it would be a kick ass Godzilla VR game! I would love nothing more than to stomp around in and lay waste to a giant virtual Tokyo and battle other giant kaiju, along with military tanks, jets, missiles, etc! Think Godzilla Save The Earth from the PS2 era in VR with modern graphics! OMG that would be my absolute dream VR game!!!
A Godzilla game, crushing cities could be fun and slower paced, so I think I could handle that in VR. They actually have Giant Robot Golf through a city, and a tech demo type game where you destroy a cartoon city, but not quite on par with a Godzilla game.

In the past, I was up for a fast paced adventure VR game, but find 3rd person games like Moss or Astrobot VR to be the easiest to play in VR without getting dizzy. Skyrim VR, that's open world adventure but I can barely play it and require the full blinders on which is like looking through a straw.

So based on that, my current dream Virtual Reality game would be one where it's slower paced. Maybe a simulation type game where I'm driving a slower Tractor Trailer truck or something, making freeway deliveries through cities and rural areas in VR. Able to hop out and explore freely.

But I'd really like to see a photo realistic City Free Roam game of real world locations to tour on foot or in vehicle, maybe a tour bus or something. I could look out the windows.

I could do that in reality, but at the moment, VR city exploration would be easier than flying to London or another state.
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There's a Horizon VR game coming. I noticed that. I missed the rest because I was busy.
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No Man's Sky PS5 upgrade for PSVR2
Resident Evil 4 Remake for PSVR2
Resident Evil 8 Village PSVR2
Horizon Call of the Mountain PSVR2

Probably by Spring 2023.
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So NMS is just an upgrade/patch, not a new game you have to buy?
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