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Old 02-10-2019, 07:05 AM   #104241
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I don't see how they're forgotten. They only bailed Brady out what, 3 times for SB victories?
It's a team game. Everybody has to get the team down the field to set up the kicker, right?
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Old 02-10-2019, 07:23 PM   #104242
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It's a team game. Everybody has to get the team down the field to set up the kicker, right?
A lot of people forget that. It gets lost in all the brady this & brady that. Even though I don't like them, BILL is the reason they thrive. Brady was out for a year & they still went 11-5 with an unproven QB. There are no GOATS in sports. The worst player on the worst team in sports could kick all of our butts at it. Who has the most this, or the least that is irrelevant in all but the most selfish eyes of athletes. Jim Brown never got a ring. Franco Harris got 4. Does that make Franco the better RB? No way. Both were elite. One just got lucky enough to play on a team that was hot at the time he played on it. Anyway, I'm rambling.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:28 AM   #104243
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I don't see how they're forgotten. They only bailed Brady out what, 3 times for SB victories?
And it was the QB that drove down the field.. jesus
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:55 AM   #104244
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These upstart leagues like AAF and XFL trying new things that the NFL will eventually copy and refine. NFL just so slow innovating.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:01 AM   #104245
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These upstart leagues like AAF and XFL trying new things that the NFL will eventually copy and refine. NFL just so slow innovating.
At least the NFL actually does implement rule changes to better the sport. Unlike MLB that is basically the same product as it was a century ago.
Could you imagine if the NFL had two different sets of rules for each conference.
That’s why baseball is getting passed up, and the NFL is top dog.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:39 AM   #104246
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I've watched some AAF highlights. You know, it's pretty decent. If you had NFL uniforms on them, I could be fooled that it's a regular season game in the NFL.

I remember the XFL play looking really rough at times. It wasn't helped that the first week or two had all the sideshow distractions around the game.

At any rate, hmmmm, these new leagues might not be so bad. As long as the football play is quality, I could see an audience for it.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:40 AM   #104247
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I've watched some AAF highlights. You know, it's pretty decent. If you had NFL uniforms on them, I could be fooled that it's a regular season game in the NFL.

I remember the XFL play looking really rough at times. It wasn't helped that the first week or two had all the sideshow distractions around the game.

At any rate, hmmmm, these new leagues might not be so bad. As long as the football play is quality, I could see an audience for it.
I couldn't even get into the Arena League!
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:52 AM   #104248
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I couldn't even get into the Arena League!
AFL is too compact, too easy (at least at first blush). I couldn't get into it either.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:25 AM   #104249
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AAF has been very good so far, as I suspected.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:26 AM   #104250
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At least the NFL actually does implement rule changes to better the sport. Unlike MLB that is basically the same product as it was a century ago.
Could you imagine if the NFL had two different sets of rules for each conference.
Thatís why baseball is getting passed up, and the NFL is top dog.
I don't think the 2 conferences having one difference is a deal breaker for most fans... lol. Other things for sure.
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These upstart leagues like AAF and XFL trying new things that the NFL will eventually copy and refine. NFL just so slow innovating.
They let other leagues innovate and implement changes so that they don't have to assume the risk and deal with all the backlash yet they can't even get their own referee situation handled in-house. Cowardice at it's finest.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:47 PM   #104252
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Per John Ourand of the Sports Business Journal the NFL is leaning towards having Bears-Packers in Chicago as the opening kickoff game. The Patriots would then open the season on Sunday Night Football, and Ourand believes (although it's a guess) the Giants would be the opponent as the league would want to save Patriots-Chiefs and Patriots-Steelers for later in the season. He also says Thanksgiving will likely feature the Bears-Lions game on Fox (which was the 2018 game as well) and Dolphins-Cowboys on CBS.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...s-Packers.aspx
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I don't think the 2 conferences having one difference is a deal breaker for most fans... lol. Other things for sure.
Itís the #1 criticism of MLB. Has been for years, decades. Now that the purists(baby boomers) donít make up the bulk of the viewing audience.
Itís why the Commish made it a point of address in the 2021 CBA, ideally in 2020.
Itís the dumbest thing in all Pro sports. The benefits far outweigh the lone con of ďthatís the way itís always beenĒ. Sorry stat keeping fan, time for a change that is long overdue.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:29 PM   #104254
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Per John Ourand of the Sports Business Journal the NFL is leaning towards having Bears-Packers in Chicago as the opening kickoff game. The Patriots would then open the season on Sunday Night Football, and Ourand believes (although it's a guess) the Giants would be the opponent as the league would want to save Patriots-Chiefs and Patriots-Steelers for later in the season. He also says Thanksgiving will likely feature the Bears-Lions game on Fox (which was the 2018 game as well) and Dolphins-Cowboys on CBS.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...s-Packers.aspx
Yep we kinda talked about that possibility last wk - pats winning to me cinched it.
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They let other leagues innovate and implement changes so that they don't have to assume the risk and deal with all the backlash yet they can't even get their own referee situation handled in-house. Cowardice at it's finest.
Nah, thatís called smart business. Itís like lab testing. Want to make sure something works before you spend money and/or implement change.
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Per John Ourand of the Sports Business Journal the NFL is leaning towards having Bears-Packers in Chicago as the opening kickoff game. The Patriots would then open the season on Sunday Night Football, and Ourand believes (although it's a guess) the Giants would be the opponent as the league would want to save Patriots-Chiefs and Patriots-Steelers for later in the season. He also says Thanksgiving will likely feature the Bears-Lions game on Fox (which was the 2018 game as well) and Dolphins-Cowboys on CBS.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...s-Packers.aspx
Giants on week one, Sunday night and banner #6, I will take that.
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AAF has been very good so far, as I suspected.
The problem I can see here already is why are fans going to invest in teams that will have basically a revolving door of players just looking to make it to the NFL and leave the AAF behind?

TV ratings might of been strong but I saw half full stadiums at best when I watched. If the NFL takes a supporting role that will be good and bad. Good that you always have the financial backing on a billion dollar industry but you will also never be anything more then the NFL's minor league and more then likely a beta tester of sorts for new ideas to be pushed to the NFL level.

My main question here though would be, were does this leave the XFL? I really don't think there is room for yet another league. Even with it being Vince I doubt he has anything close as far as the spending power that the NFL team owners have, without talent I doubt it will be able to do any better then the first time he tried. I think if Vince is smart he cancels plans for a new xfl league.
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Itís the #1 criticism of MLB. Has been for years, decades. Now that the purists(baby boomers) donít make up the bulk of the viewing audience.
Itís why the Commish made it a point of address in the 2021 CBA, ideally in 2020.
Itís the dumbest thing in all Pro sports. The benefits far outweigh the lone con of ďthatís the way itís always beenĒ. Sorry stat keeping fan, time for a change that is long overdue.
Baseball seems to be losing popularity as time goes on.
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Nah, thatís called smart business. Itís like lab testing. Want to make sure something works before you spend money and/or implement change.
Fair enough, but eventually you need to make a move which the NFL almost never does or only does until something goes horribly wrong and they get a black eye over it. How long would it be before they made a change if another league didn't step in and make their own move?
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Baseball seems to be losing popularity as time goes on.
Because they consistently resist any changes that might speed up and modernize the game.

There really is no excuse to not use new technology to take balls and strike calls out of the hands of the umpires along with a pitch clock to stop the constant batter and pitcher delays that are allowed.

Those two simple to implement changes alone would do wonders for the game.
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