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Old 10-22-2013, 02:23 PM   #21
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The below is a good read for those that haven't checked it out per the original versions of these films which are in non-anamorphic widescreen. It's truly sad they were never released in anamorphic widescreen.

The Ultimate Guide to Anamorphic Widescreen

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Old 10-22-2013, 02:39 PM   #22
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Glad you were able to add these to your collection. The picture isn't the greatest compared to a lot of what we see anymore, but considering a lot of us grew up with them on TV and VHS, they're pretty good. (And the only way we'll ever see them anymore unless Disney/Lucasfilm decide to go back and try to re-splice the negatives...) Heck, at this point it'd probably be easier to re-convert them digitally, though there'd definitely be some irony there, lol.)
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:20 AM   #23
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Yeah, I'm pretty excited... this is super nostalgic for me as it's been what, 18 years since I've seen the originals? I'll need to put a day aside to watch them all together.

And for those that simply cannot understand and keep thinking "There are beautiful Blu-ray releases available, you guys are being silly, get over it..." it really is a big deal.

To us, it's as bad as watching a movie we love, but every so often a clown jumps on screen, talks directly to the camera, and laughs hysterically throwing pies in everyone's face. It's very distracting and takes you out of the movie.

Thanks for everyone's help and fingers crossed that someone at Disney's legal department works some magic over the coming years.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:43 PM   #24
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Yeah, I'm pretty excited... this is super nostalgic for me as it's been what, 18 years since I've seen the originals? I'll need to put a day aside to watch them all together.

And for those that simply cannot understand and keep thinking "There are beautiful Blu-ray releases available, you guys are being silly, get over it..." it really is a big deal.
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My apologies, you were correct about the side black bars...i double checked my BD player and it was set to 16:9 FULL which meant it would automatically zoom my pictures to fill the screen horizontally.

@Black Orange glad to see they arrived already! Here is something else that might make you watch the untouched original vs. the special edition! (as if you needed convincing )
Below is the 4:3 Letterbox Original

Below is the Widescreen Special Edition


Now notice how the "special edition" has cut off a bit of the image on the left and the right sides. (one of the tiny circles on the left of the gate is completely gone!) Now i don't know if this is a result of letterbox vs say widescreen...but the original one is giving you MORE Star Wars, so it's definitely another plus...AND Han STILL SHOOTS FIRST, DAMNIT!
Can somebody try this experiment and snap a pic of the same shot on the Blu Ray release? I'm pretty curious about this now...
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:02 AM   #25
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Now notice how the "special edition" has cut off a bit of the image on the left and the right sides. (one of the tiny circles on the left of the gate is completely gone!)
Here's a capture from my special edition DVD. Have you got yours set for 1:1 pixel? It looks like you've got over-scan turned on.

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Old 10-25-2013, 10:04 PM   #26
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Here's a capture from my special edition DVD. Have you got yours set for 1:1 pixel? It looks like you've got over-scan turned on.

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Hi Chip, thanks for posting up the nice capture!
(props for finding that exact frame i used, haha)
Where might i find this over-scan option? Is it in the zoom/format options in the TV or in the settings of my BD player?

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Old 10-26-2013, 02:12 AM   #27
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Hi Chip, thanks for posting up the nice capture!
(props for finding that exact frame i used, haha)
Where might i find this over-scan option? Is it in the zoom/format options in the TV or in the settings of my BD player?
Depending on your television it will be under the picture options or set-up menu. On my Samsung I can go through 16:9, 4:3, Zoom, Wide Zoom and Screen Fit choices. Some TVs have it down as Full Pixel or 1:1. If your TV supports the feature it accessible through the remote direct or through the menu.

Looking at your TV's manual it's under the FORMAT button. Panasonic's are always confusing to me so my best advice is to find a BD with 1.85:1 aspect ratio and cycle through the options until you can see the slight letter-boxing on the top and bottom. Like Jurassic Park below.



I'm not sure if the mode is FULL or JUST.
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:56 AM   #28
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Yeah, it sucks we have to jump through so many hoops just to watch the movies we love the way we love and remember them.

All things considered, now that we've narrowed down the versions you need and the goofy aspect ratio settings that need adjusting, hopefully we've made the task much easier for the next film lover!
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Depending on your television it will be under the picture options or set-up menu. On my Samsung I can go through 16:9, 4:3, Zoom, Wide Zoom and Screen Fit choices. Some TVs have it down as Full Pixel or 1:1. If your TV supports the feature it accessible through the remote direct or through the menu.

Looking at your TV's manual it's under the FORMAT button. Panasonic's are always confusing to me so my best advice is to find a BD with 1.85:1 aspect ratio and cycle through the options until you can see the slight letter-boxing on the top and bottom. Like Jurassic Park below.

I'm not sure if the mode is FULL or JUST.
Okay, because I'm in the market for a TV, I have to ask, what model is your Samsung, and would you recommend it?
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Okay, because I'm in the market for a TV, I have to ask, what model is your Samsung, and would you recommend it?
The Samsung 42'' plasma I have downstairs is getting on a bit and my TV upstairs is a Samsung LED Sync Master T24B300 which is only a 24''. I wouldn't recommend it to be honest as it only has one HDMI input and it gets a bit fiddly with it's power-saving options. It has a habit of turning itself off when you want to switch between PC and HDMI sources (it goes into stand-by when you shut your PC off). I do recommend Samsung (they're very popular in the UK) products but most name brands make decent products these days.

If you're concerned about not having 1:1 pixel mode it's quite rare to find a HDTV that doesn't support it but it's also worth checking on a display model or the on-line manual.
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So if I wanted to buy the 2 trilogies on Blu-Ray and prefer the original versions but can probably accept the special versions...which set should I buy?
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So if I wanted to buy the 2 trilogies on Blu-Ray and prefer the original versions but can probably accept the special versions...which set should I buy?


If you want the extras.



If you just want the films.



If you want DVD copies with your BDs. Other regions might be cheaper!
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So if I wanted to buy the 2 trilogies on Blu-Ray and prefer the original versions but can probably accept the special versions...which set should I buy?
Yep, i agree with Chip's breakdown there. And if you're a fan, you probably will want the special features disc cause it does have some jewels from the old trilogy. I just hope you know what you're getting when u buy the Blu's hahaha. George threw in a few more "special modifications" into the old trilogy

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Old 11-27-2013, 09:33 PM   #34
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buy them all - Fox/Lucas/Disney need more money!

I bought the big set mostly because I like watching the behind the scenes stuff so if you are into that, buy that.
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Old 11-28-2013, 01:36 AM   #35
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You may want to see what editions they release for part 7.
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Star Wars is a good movie.
ROFL God that was funny!!!

I agree with the original post one hundred percent, what I would really want is a blu-ray of the THX mastered '95 VHS release of the trilogy. Perhaps now that Lucas Films has been sold this will eventually happen. In the meantime the despecialized edition is a great option, hopefully I can find a good download for it.
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I settled with the LaserDisc THX set with the faces on the covers. I found a mint set on eBay for about 35 dollars.
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IMO, this is the best set to get. Original unaltered, and best quality on Laserdisc (as long as you don't mind Japanese subtitles).

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Hate to break this to you, but that's the 2000 re-release which definitely contains the Special Edition versions. Lucas pulled the same crap with the US and UK VHS box sets that were released that same year, in that the fact that they were the Special Edition versions was deliberately not disclosed on the packaging. Of course that wasn't Lucas' first act of blatant revisionism, and sadly it wasn't the last.

Personally, my favorite one is the 1995 Japanese "Collector's Set" because not only does it has the original versions of the films (with the same transfer as the 1993 US THX "Faces" singles), but also the long-suppressed "From Star Wars to Jedi" documentary. Remember Lucas' infamous quote from 1983 where he said "A special effect is a tool, a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing."? That's where that quote came from, and that's also why of all the 4 official contemporary documentaries only FSWTJ was deliberately not included in the 2011 "Complete Saga" BD box set.
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Hate to break this to you, but that's the 2000 re-release which definitely contains the Special Edition versions. Lucas pulled the same crap with the US and UK VHS box sets that were released that same year, in that the fact that they were the Special Edition versions was deliberately not disclosed on the packaging. Of course that wasn't Lucas' first act of blatant revisionism, and sadly it wasn't the last.

Personally, my favorite one is the 1995 Japanese "Collector's Set" because not only does it has the original versions of the films (with the same transfer as the 1993 US THX "Faces" singles), but also the long-suppressed "From Star Wars to Jedi" documentary. Remember Lucas' infamous quote from 1983 where he said "A special effect is a tool, a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing."? That's where that quote came from, and that's also why of all the 4 official contemporary documentaries only FSWTJ was deliberately not included in the 2011 "Complete Saga" BD box set.
Ah, maybe I got it confused with the Japanese 'white' edition...
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