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Old 02-05-2021, 04:13 PM   #661
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I used my c8 with tons of static images .. logos .. etc for like 2+ years and it is still perfect. Hopefully my 77cx the same way.
I should say I wasn't worried about it on my C8 cuz I have a 5 year BB warranty that covers burn in. I dont have it on the 77" so I am kind of being much more cautious.
The CX is dimmer than the C8 so you probably don't need a warranty on the CX, less prone to burn-in.
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That's stop gap display tech. It will be obsolete in 3 years.
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That's stop gap display tech. It will be obsolete in 3 years.
I agree.
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:19 PM   #664
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Burn-in on OLED much like plasma before can happen but like plasma the actual number of cases are very rare and almost always occur when the use case falls outside of the norm or is outright extreme. Of course, the internet is great and making things seem to be a much larger problem than they actually are. Ive owned plenty of plasmas & now my current OLED(I'll be buying another one soon: An 83" from Sony or LG this year) and have never had a problem at all.

My suggestions?
1) Vary your content(like the vast majority of people do)
2) Keep the OLED light at the lowest setting for optimum PQ. No need to crank it to 100 all the time.
3) Id avoid heavy gaming or games with big, fat HUDs. Heavy gaming isnt a few hours here and there but I mean like marathon, heavy gaming as in like hours and hours every day.
4) Avoid long stretches of news channels with their stupid tickers & glaring logos. I can also come up with MORE good reasons to avoid news channels but we wont go there, lol.
5) Dont use the TV as background fodder all day and leave it on the same channel day in, day out.

Thats about it. The overwhelming majority will never get burn in and following some basic steps will help make sure of that. Its not hard. Dont get consumed in the onf-off horror stories or cherry-picked edge cases that make it appear as if its widespread or inevitable. Thats pure BS and there is no data to back it up.

OLED PQ is king. Great picture quality starts and ends with high contrast & deep black levels. 'Nuff said.
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Old 02-05-2021, 10:05 PM   #665
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Burn-in on OLED much like plasma before can happen but like plasma the actual number of cases are very rare and almost always occur when the use case falls outside of the norm or is outright extreme. Of course, the internet is great and making things seem to be a much larger problem than they actually are. Ive owned plenty of plasmas & now my current OLED(I'll be buying another one soon: An 83" from Sony or LG this year) and have never had a problem at all.

My suggestions?
1) Vary your content(like the vast majority of people do)
2) Keep the OLED light at the lowest setting for optimum PQ. No need to crank it to 100 all the time.
3) Id avoid heavy gaming or games with big, fat HUDs. Heavy gaming isnt a few hours here and there but I mean like marathon, heavy gaming as in like hours and hours every day.
4) Avoid long stretches of news channels with their stupid tickers & glaring logos. I can also come up with MORE good reasons to avoid news channels but we wont go there, lol.
5) Dont use the TV as background fodder all day and leave it on the same channel day in, day out.

Thats about it. The overwhelming majority will never get burn in and following some basic steps will help make sure of that. Its not hard. Dont get consumed in the onf-off horror stories or cherry-picked edge cases that make it appear as if its widespread or inevitable. Thats pure BS and there is no data to back it up.

OLED PQ is king. Great picture quality starts and ends with high contrast & deep black levels. 'Nuff said.
Geez, if you have to do all of that, that proves OLED is susceptible to burn-in. Hey, why not turn it on at all, that way your OLED would never burn-in.

BTW, OLED is queen not King, Micro-LED is superior. If you have about 200K you can buy one.
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There is a reason that colorists use OLED and not microLED. The colour accuracy is just not there.
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So now we can officially announce, there's no such thing as burn-in.
Sure, just as soon as people accept that BD-R discs last just as long as pressed discs.
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Old 02-07-2021, 09:06 PM   #668
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Geez, if you have to do all of that, that proves OLED is susceptible to burn-in. Hey, why not turn it on at all, that way your OLED would never burn-in.

BTW, OLED is queen not King, Micro-LED is superior. If you have about 200K you can buy one.
Micro-LED is superior? LOL Its still LED so good luck with that.
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Burn-in on OLED much like plasma before can happen but like plasma the actual number of cases are very rare and almost always occur when the use case falls outside of the norm or is outright extreme. Of course, the internet is great and making things seem to be a much larger problem than they actually are. Ive owned plenty of plasmas & now my current OLED(I'll be buying another one soon: An 83" from Sony or LG this year) and have never had a problem at all.

My suggestions?
1) Vary your content(like the vast majority of people do)
2) Keep the OLED light at the lowest setting for optimum PQ. No need to crank it to 100 all the time.
3) Id avoid heavy gaming or games with big, fat HUDs. Heavy gaming isnt a few hours here and there but I mean like marathon, heavy gaming as in like hours and hours every day.
4) Avoid long stretches of news channels with their stupid tickers & glaring logos. I can also come up with MORE good reasons to avoid news channels but we wont go there, lol.
5) Dont use the TV as background fodder all day and leave it on the same channel day in, day out.

Thats about it. The overwhelming majority will never get burn in and following some basic steps will help make sure of that. Its not hard. Dont get consumed in the onf-off horror stories or cherry-picked edge cases that make it appear as if its widespread or inevitable. Thats pure BS and there is no data to back it up.

OLED PQ is king. Great picture quality starts and ends with high contrast & deep black levels. 'Nuff said.

Agree with this post 100%!!!
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Old 02-07-2021, 10:24 PM   #670
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Micro-LED is superior? LOL Its still LED so good luck with that.
Technically, it's superior to OLED in every way. It's not just a LED, it's self-emissive just like OLED, so no need for a backlight.

For example, you have people ready to drop their hard-earned dollars for a brighter OLED (1000-1300 nits on a 10% window) coming out later this year. They're actually excited about 1300 nits, however, Micro-LED is projected to enter into the market at no less 2,000 nits, without any burn-in concerns.
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Don’t make it seem like an amazing panacea, the “entry” is at at-least $100,000 for the 80” model.
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Don’t make it seem like an amazing panacea, the “entry” is at at-least $100,000 for the 80” model.

What's the solution then, to keep upgrading your TV every year until micro-led becomes affordable?

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LOL. I’ve had 2 OLEDs and each is now more than 3 years with no burn in. What are you talking about. SMH.
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LOL. I’ve had 2 OLEDs and each is now more than 3 years with no burn in. What are you talking about. SMH.
I have a nearly 6 year old 65EF9500 with over 10,000 hours on it with no burn in. I have a 4.5 year old 65E6 also with no burn in. And I don't baby either one. I agree with you. The guy has no idea what he is talking about.
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Old 02-22-2021, 10:01 PM   #675
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LOL. Ive had 2 OLEDs and each is now more than 3 years with no burn in. What are you talking about. SMH.
As a videophile, I just don't understand why you don't have the same passion about micro-led. The tech will be great.
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Why should I worry for something that is not yet available for me and any one of my client base? MicroLED have been promised for years and I have yet to see a single one in a home application. Potentials mean nothing until they come to fruition.
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Old 02-23-2021, 04:02 PM   #677
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Why should I worry for something that is not yet available for me and any one of my client base? MicroLED have been promised for years and I have yet to see a single one in a home application. Potentials mean nothing until they come to fruition.
Haven't you heard the saying "Good things comes to those who wait" ? Also, I was asking you about Micro-LED, not so much for your clients, but to you as an individual videophile.
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I need my TVs 3 years ago,not 3 years from now
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Old 02-23-2021, 04:14 PM   #679
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Exactly. I'm enjoying the quality my OLED gives now.
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There's always something better in the future. All technology is stop-gap tech. If you're getting a TV now, you have to make the best purchase decision you can make now. We don't even know at this point if Micro-Led will even be the future of televisions, it might end up being something else. Remember SED? I waited a couple years for that before replacing my CRT before I realized it wasn't happening anytime soon if ever (turned out to be ever, lol) and just went with a set I wanted to get then.
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