95th Academy Awards - 2023

[slumcat]

Originally Posted by Farerb

What did you think about the winners?

I liked 2 or 3 out of the 20 odd Oscars they handed out.

The winners weren't offensively bad. Just very ordinary.

[LordoftheRings]

Indeed, it was just an "ordinary" Oscar evening, bordering on the boring. ...Talking Heads?

As for Cameron and Cruise; they can sit their asses wherever they please.
And we'll do the same with our own asses, thank you very much and enjoy your good fortune, gratuity of us.

[DukeTogo84]

I think this years Oscars did more right than wrong, which is a good thing. HOWEVER, their major blunder was leaving out Paul Sorvino out of the in memoriam segment. The man was a huge and important actor and when it hit me that he was missing, I couldn't believe it.

[LordoftheRings]

Stars Who Were Snubbed From The 2023 Oscars In Memoriam Segment - YouTube

Yes they missed a fair bunch; that shouldn't happen @ the Oscars celebrations and respects for all Hollywood contributors.

And there was this, ... what was that!

David Byrne Live at the Oscars! #davidbyrne #everythingeverywhereallatonce #oscars2023 - YouTube

Most boring song performance. I know it supposes to be like that, but that is super terrible.

[LordoftheRings]

Here's the list of the top 15 all-time worldwide grossing flicks (unadjusted), and the number of Oscars each one won.

Screenshot_20230317_142018_Chrome.jpg

Only five of them won Oscars (⅓), with three of the top four (James Cameron’s flicks) winning the most together (15 out of 19).

1. Titanic = 11 Oscars
2. Avatar = 3 Oscars
3. Avatar: The Way of Water = 1 Oscar

4. Black Panther = 3 Oscars
5. Top Gun: Maverick = 1 Oscar

Everyone else = Zero

Only Cameron is way on top for the Oscar's count ... Titanic taking all the share of the lion.
So for the vast part (90% ±) the most profitable flicks worldwide don't win Oscars, or only very very few by very few. Isn't it interesting or not? It is what it is, everything everywhere all @ once.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Here's the list of the top 15 all-time worldwide grossing flicks (unadjusted), and the number of Oscars each one won.

Attachment 288081

Only five of them won Oscars (⅓), with three of the top four (James Cameron’s flicks) winning the most together (15 out of 19).

1. Titanic = 11 Oscars
2. Avatar = 3 Oscars
3. Avatar: The Way of Water = 1 Oscar

4. Black Panther = 3 Oscars
5. Top Gun: Maverick = 1 Oscar

Everyone else = Zero

Only Cameron is way on top for the Oscar's count ... Titanic taking all the share of the lion.
So for the vast part (90% ±) the most profitable flicks worldwide don't win Oscars, or only very very few by very few. Isn't it interesting or not? It is what it is, everything everywhere all @ once.

The Lion King "re-imagining" was my least-favorite film of 2019. I watched it on streaming, and no lie, had to watch it in chunks because I rage-quit it every ten minutes. I'm guessing the re-tooled songs recycled from the 1994 film weren't eligible..

[LordoftheRings]

The Lion King (2019), number 9, never saw it. ...And Frozen II. All the others on 4K Blu, or 3D Blu.
AWoW not yet.
_____

* Bonus:
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/d...ed-1235557563/

[jeangreyforever]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

It works since this is meant to be about modern and traditional butting heads.

That's a good point there. Even though I'm in the same age group as Stephanie Hsu's character, I'm probably more on the wavelength with Michelle Yeoh's character which might explain my similar reaction.

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

Also King Cameron had a legit reason to skip.

https://twitter.com/joerussotweets/s...00539085807616

Eh, he could have hosted that party literally any other night. Sounds like he made a very deliberate decision to skip and hold his own party.

[jeangreyforever]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

The Academy doesn't respect Tom Cruise so why should he take the time out of working on Mission Impossible to do the show, waste of his time.

They didn't nominate him this year but they have nominated him in the past multiple times. I don't think they disrespect him (or the older voter base of the Oscars doesn't at least, maybe the newer voters aren't as into him) but I think a major reason he was snubbed this year is because all the other nominees were all first-timers. I think that played a role in him not getting the nomination.

Also it's very rare for an actor get a nomination for reprising a role in a sequel, especially if they didn't get nominated for the original movie. Sigourney Weaver is the only case I can think of where she got the nomination for Aliens.

[Shingster]

Tom Cruise didn't deserve an Oscar or an award for bloody Maverick. He's an amazing film star and he's put in some great acting work here and there over the years, but the Top Gun films are simple fun movies with little going on for a performer to really sink their teeth into.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by BreakfastClub211

...Yes, that is quite literally how it works and how it's always worked. I'm not sure why'd you expect anything else.

Originally Posted by Lepidopterous

It would have been awesome if Top Gun: Maverick won, capping a true Hollywood comeback story for movies and cinemas. But the Oscars this year were not that story. They were EEAAO’s story. Which is very different than 2017, when the entire night was La La Land, then they lost BP.

As for Avatar 2, I kind of wish James Cameron had dedicated his talents to a more compelling franchise. But I did find the middle hour to be a touching love letter for Cameron’s love of the deep.

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

The Academy Awards are analogous to an Industry Trade Show, where the industry names its top model, regardless of how many some other models have sold. The definition of "top model" shifts from time to time, but it's not a People's Choice Award. Otherwise Home Alone would have won Best Picture in 1990 and Jurassic Park would have beat Schindler's List in 1993.

Yes, but the 2023 Oscars do not represent just another year in its history, but rather a year where two films, albeit sequels but not comic book derivatives, stepped up to confront an existential threat to the future of Hollywood and the global theatrical model.

Needless to say, but I'll mention it all the same, they stemmed the tide to fight another day.

Objectively speaking, these two films were better than they had any right to be, so it's not as if the Academy needed to hold their nose while voting for one or the other.

Furthermore, giving one of those two films Best Picture and leaving Best Director to The Daniels doesn't diminish EEAAO as top film of the evening.

To be clear, that's me holding my nose for a dog which reduces very real human conflict and vulnerability to the level of an after school TV special and wraps it in a derivative and manipulative 'culture vulture' wrapper sprinkled with distorted 'new age' trappings, combined with an execution exemplified by derivativeness, joylessness, meaninglessness and overwhelming repetitiveness.

But I do agree it's Academy-friendly, as The Daniels know how to push their buttons and provide a critic-proof version of hipster fan service, i.e., this isn't your Marvel multiverse, it's far more of the moment and meaningful, and therefore cooler!

Never mind the googly eyes urban millennials, you sought-after demographic for which advertisers will pay the highest rates, and let's all kowtow together at the temple of the latest and greatest advertising aspirations.

[Foggy]

It’s been a week dude.

[Atomic Salad]

[LordoftheRings]

James Cameron and Tom Cruise we're going to remember them both for skipping the theater @ the Oscars; them two the biggest promoters of theaters ($$$ money money money made them smile all the way to the Hollywood banking system without even attending the biggest show and their fans who put them on the financial map in the first place). Perhaps they see themselves as real superheroes?

I clearly see the picture

* Bonus:
https://www.koimoi.com/hollywood-new...m-oscars-2023/

** Extra (taxes for being nominated):
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/whoo...171700264.html

The show is over, the doors are locked @ the zoo.
Next show next week ... Wick C4 (R.I.P. Lance Reddick)
▪︎https://apnews.com/article/lance-red...8240f8aaa3c20e

[Invid Ninja]

Originally Posted by Foggy

It’s been a week dude.

I'm sure he's not got a lot going on, or apparently has watched nothing else despite his 'home entertainment system'. Can't think of any other reason besides his penchant for essays filled with drivel.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by Foggy

It’s been a week dude.

Originally Posted by Invid Ninja

I'm sure he's not got a lot going on, or apparently has watched nothing else despite his 'home entertainment system'. Can't think of any other reason besides his penchant for essays filled with drivel.

A week is far better than a thread of weak, as in that's all this thread has got?

I put on it on a tee for you and everyone else, and all we get in return is swing and miss.

Like I said, weak.

As in how many weaks do you or anyone else give the global theatrical model without the two MI sequels and how ever many Avatar sequels Cameron has up his sleeve?

If you were to ask me, not more than a few weaks.

After all, EEAAO was ranked what, 27th, or is that now 26th with their big night? Great googly moogly! Now that's weak!

It's gotten to the stage where you can't even count on Marvel, DC or Pixar, that's how weak.

But, you've got The Daniels, properly capitalized and everything.

I'll leave it at that, and wish you good luck!

You're going to need it, along with the Academy, when Cruise & Cameron call it a day.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

A week is far better than a thread of weak, as in that's all this thread has got?

[rocklobster]

Originally Posted by cgpublic

A week is far better than a thread of weak, as in that's all this thread has got?

I put on it on a tee for you and everyone else, and all we get in return is swing and miss.

Like I said, weak.

As in how many weaks do you or anyone else give the global theatrical model without the two MI sequels and how ever many Avatar sequels Cameron has up his sleeve?

If you were to ask me, not more than a few weaks.

After all, EEAAO was ranked what, 27th, or is that now 26th with their big night? Great googly moogly! Now that's weak!

It's gotten to the stage where you can't even count on Marvel, DC or Pixar, that's how weak.

But, you've got The Daniels, properly capitalized and everything.

I'll leave it at that, and wish you good luck!

You're going to need it, along with the Academy, when Cruise & Cameron call it a day.

LOL, this has been good. Hopefully you mean it when you say you’re done, but given how you’ve conducted yourself in this thread, I wouldn’t bet on it.

[LordoftheRings]

Click on it ^ only if you dare to travel in the multiverse

_____

* Bonus:
https://theconversation.com/everythi...llywood-200817

[LordoftheRings]

One movie director's view --- Tár - Todd Field