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Old 04-08-2017, 06:27 AM   #21
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Giving my final inputs regarding the quality of this version:
I'm glad Eros finally released this, it was much awaited. For most part, these look extremely sharp and well-defined. Colors look extremely fresh, dark scenes and outdoor shoots look the best. There are almost no problems of aliasing or other artifacts, except noise reduction is prominently visible and majorly affects fast motion scenes (the movie contains a lot of dance numbers, so this takes a toll in this matter). Other spheres that could require better work are contrasts. Sometimes the shadow detail looks unhealthy, rendering black parts of the image brighter than they should be, but this is all never too distracting.
The great color-fidelity helps bring justice to the spectacular art design of the film, and this HD version brings it to a new level.

The audio transfer is robust, atmospheric and crisp. I'm not sure if erosnow offers 5.1 or not, but ignoring the technical specs the audio sounds amazing. There's a three to four second phase where the audio sounds very bad, and it gets somewhat distracting. Hope they're able to fix the glitch.

To conclude, I'm extremely satisfied with the transfer. Hope they release the blu-ray very soon
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:10 AM   #22
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There are almost no problems of aliasing or other artifacts, except noise reduction is prominently visible and majorly affects fast motion scenes (the movie contains a lot of dance numbers, so this takes a toll in this matter).
In what way? Smearing? Ghosting? Waxy faces?...
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In what way? Smearing? Ghosting? Waxy faces?...
Smearing, yes. Majorly.
Ghosting, none whatsoever.
Waxy faces, sadly yes.

Just the usual fare expected of Bollywood films in high-def. No point in complaining about it since DNR has become a norm for the authors and restorers.
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:47 PM   #24
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Smearing, yes. Majorly.
Ghosting, none whatsoever.
Waxy faces, sadly yes.

Just the usual fare expected of Bollywood films in high-def. No point in complaining about it since DNR has become a norm for the authors and restorers.
There is good quality DNR which just reduces grain to a digital camera level but keeping detail and sharpness and there is bad DNR that looks waxy and lacks detail and sharpness and often adds artifacts on top. So we have the first kind or second kind here?
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I don't see this As a full high definition released although I do think it's 720 P but I am now still waiting for a 1080 P release of this movie
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There is good quality DNR which just reduces grain to a digital camera level but keeping detail and sharpness
Sorry, if the DNR is significant enough to make 35mm footage look like digital camera, it can no longer be described as good.
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Sorry, if the DNR is significant enough to make 35mm footage look like digital camera, it can no longer be described as good.
It's no longer authentic but far more watchable than bad DNR. Degraining and regraining is standard for modern DIs. I prefer original grain to no grain or regrain but when done well you can't easily tell the difference between original grain and regrain or degrained versus shot on grainless digital camera.
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There is good quality DNR which just reduces grain to a digital camera level but keeping detail and sharpness and there is bad DNR that looks waxy and lacks detail and sharpness and often adds artifacts on top. So we have the first kind or second kind here?
We don't get to see much of the latter here. Wide angle and landscape shots look overwhelming on this version, without looking painfully soft and out of focus. There is detail on every shot of the movie like there was never before! Close-up shots do lack grain. Therefore, I can conclude that there is only a measly level at which DNR is applied to this. Dance numbers look blurry on the occasion of a lot of movements, but they do not tend to make your eyes strain. This is quite close to the border of deal-breaking for me, had the DNR residuals been even a little notch above, I would have bashed this treatment for one of my most nostalgic movies universally! That, and I wish shadow and gamma scales were taken better care of. I often watch this movie, to usually remain left with a desire of a slightly better treatment of this HD transfer.
I know, an answer appears too late, but I hope this helps someone!
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