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View Poll Results: The X-Files on blu-ray: 4x3 vs 16x9?
4x3 95 30.84%
16x9 213 69.16%
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Old 02-01-2014, 05:55 AM   #1
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Default The X-Files tv series poll - 4x3 vs 16x9

The X-Files was shot in the Super 35 film format and was originally aired in the 4x3 (1.33:1) aspect ratio, but was protected for 16x9 (1.78:1). This poll is for you to vote on your preference as to how you would like to see the tv show presented on blu-ray.

According to this interview with Director of Photography John Bartley who started on the second episode of season one: "We shot The X-Files in Super 35 format and framed for 4:3. We protected for 16:9, because we knew it was coming."

If you look at some of the screenshots in The X-Files thread, you can see that a new high definition transfer has been made in 16x9 for airing on tv. In order to go to a 16x9 aspect ratio, some cropping on the top and/or bottom of the frame has been done and the sides are opened up considerably more. Another thing to note is that some/all of the establishing shots and effects shots have been upscaled and cropped.

So would you rather have the original aspect ratio the way it was broadcast on tv with pillarbox black bars on the sides instead of the side information that was protected for, but not necessarily composed for the scene, or would you rather have the sides opened up to reveal more picture information horizontally, but at the cost of losing some information at the top and/or bottom of the image? It would be ideal if they would open up the sides without cropping the top and bottom to something like a 1.66:1 aspect ratio, but unfortunately I'm pretty much positive that Fox is only considering 4x3 or 16x9, so I didn't include it as an option.

The screenshots are from a new airing of The X-Files in high definition on a German tv network and may or may not be indicative as to how the show will look on blu-ray. Please check out some of the screenshots and vote on your preferred choice.

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Old 02-01-2014, 06:08 AM   #2
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In most cases, i would say OAR, but based on the screenshots I have seen, the 16x9 transfer looks damn good.
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:28 AM   #3
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It should also be noted that all the special effects and stock footage shots are cropped without any extra picture on the sides.

And the poll is only relevant for Seasons 1-4
You are absolutely correct sir! I'm all for open-ended honesty all the way.
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:31 AM   #4
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Ideally, they'd have both, like the Star Trek TOS sets with the toggleable CGI.
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:33 AM   #5
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16:9
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Old 02-01-2014, 07:41 AM   #6
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The new widescreen HD transfers are astonishing.
I had absolutely no idea the show could look that good.
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Well widescreen and HD aren't necessarily the same thing. It would look just as good in any aspect ratio.
Oh I know. But the widescreen looks just breathtaking and I love the new compositions.
I've always said I would never upgrade since I spent over $900 on the DVD seasons when they were released but I would certainly think twice on that if these were released in New widescreen transfers in HD.
I certainly hope at least these appear in widescreen on instant Netflix asap.
I would research the entire series if I can now see it look this good.
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:24 AM   #8
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Easily the 16:9/1:78:1 version. All the episodes bar maybe the pilot looked like they were framed with a future proof 16:9/1:78:1 composition in mind. There isn't much cropping at the top and bottom, and we get sizeable expanded information on the left and right, it also overall looks and feels more cinematic.
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Old 02-01-2014, 11:48 AM   #9
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16:9 all the way, the purist in me still has the DVDs for 4:3 viewing, but by god, some of those screenshots look astounding in 16:9, it will be great to watch the show again in a fresh way.
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:02 PM   #10
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16:9 all the way, the purist in me still has the DVDs for 4:3 viewing, but by god, some of those screenshots look astounding in 16:9, it will be great to watch the show again in a fresh way.
I concur. :-)
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:52 PM   #11
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Some of the screenshots look great in widescreen, some of them do not. No clear winner for me yet so I will default to OAR.
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Old 02-01-2014, 05:45 PM   #12
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I'll gladly take the HD remastering, but I wants it in 4:3. The 16:9 composition is just too damned awkward, for the first season anyway, and the cropped VFX shots look like ass. They'd still look like ass in 4:3 because they're upscaled, but at least they wouldn't be cropped as well.
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Some of the 'awkward shots' people talk about displayed in the 16:9 version with regards to head room or close ups look just as awkward if not more so on the 4:3 version IMO.

The only positive to one of the shots in the 4:3 version over the 16:9 version is we get to see more of Scully's legs in one frame, but that's just the red blooded male in me!

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1:66.1. More is added to the sides but it's cropped from the bottom and top to fill the screen completely. As with friends, I say a happy medium of 1:66.1 is the way to go. Plus they really need someone with a brain if they're going to crop.

Most of the cropping I've seen for it is awkward and unpleasant. The transfers look quite lovely though. I really think the 1:66.1 aspect ratio would be the perfect way though. Additional side footage with no top or bottom sacrificed.
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1:66.1. More is added to the sides but it's cropped from the bottom and top to fill the screen completely. As with friends, I say a happy medium of 1:66.1 is the way to go. Plus they really need someone with a brain if they're going to crop.

Most of the cropping I've seen for it is awkward and unpleasant. The transfers look quite lovely though. I really think the 1:66.1 aspect ratio would be the perfect way though. Additional side footage with no top or bottom sacrificed.
I completely agree:
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Totally just my opinion, but if they could've just opened up the sides for the earlier episodes without cropping the top and bottom, and give us something close to the framing of some UK film's aspect ratio of 1.67:1 like this, I would've been much more happy, but I'm sure that the studios are only thinking OAR/1.78:1




But from what I've heard, they have done the high-def transfers at both 1.33:1 (4x3) and 1.78:1 (16x9), hence why I only offered those two choices for the poll.
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Ideally, I would choose 1:66. I'm all for expanding the sides of the picture, as long as it doesn't result in top/bottom cropping. But assuming that would be too much work for Fox to go back and adjust, I pick 4:3.
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Lookin good.
I can't think of anything else that has had this much improvement in terms of image quality for this release.
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You are absolutely correct sir! I'm all for open-ended honesty all the way.
If that's the case, you really should note in the original post that while 4:3 was the intended aspect ratio for TV broadcast for the first four seasons, those first four seasons (save for the pilot) were protected for 16:9 framing when being filmed. They were thinking ahead and preparing for the show to potentially be shown in a 16:9 aspect ratio one day.

As the first post currently stands, it seems like you're clearly trying to sway people towards the 4:3 aspect ratio by leaving that very important piece of information out.
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If that's the case, you really should note in the original post that while 4:3 was the intended aspect ratio for TV broadcast for the first four seasons, those first four seasons (save for the pilot) were protected for 16:9 framing when being filmed. They were thinking ahead and preparing for the show to potentially be shown in a 16:9 aspect ratio one day.

As the first post currently stands, it seems like you're clearly trying to sway people towards the 4:3 aspect ratio by leaving that very important piece of information out.
Protected for 16:9 but composed for 4:3, to be correct.
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