Pioneer Kuro plasmas better than 4k tv's?

[Robert Zohn]

It's true that Sony's A9G has moderately better near black detail, slightly better up-conversion of low resolution video, like cable content and a littler smoother motion resolution.

However, we just Beta tested the next CX/GX firmware update and it very nicely improves the near black detail and raised blacks issue.

Also after calibration we can make LG's CX/GX perform as well as Sony's A9G/A8H.

Four distinct advantages of Sony's A9G Master Series OLED TV are:

- Better build quality, all metal

- Better built-in audio system and if you have an external audio system you can use the TV's audio as the center channel speaker.

- For Master Series TVs Sony does a Q/C, and sets the White Point and does a gamma and CMS calibration at the factory. It's not the same as an individual professional calibration.

[Twm1988]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

It's true that Sony's A9G has moderately better near black detail, slightly better up-conversion of low resolution video, like cable content and a littler smoother motion resolution.

However, we just Beta tested the next CX/GX firmware update and it very nicely improves the near black detail and raised blacks issue.

Also after calibration we can make LG's CX/GX perform as well as Sony's A9G/A8H.

Four distinct advantages of Sony's A9G Master Series OLED TV are:

- Better build quality, all metal

- Better built-in audio system and if you have an external audio system you can use the TV's audio as the center channel speaker.

- For Master Series TVs Sony does a Q/C, and sets the White Point and does a gamma and CMS calibration at the factory. It's not the same as an individual professional calibration.

Are there any Panasonic OLED's that you think would compare to the Sony A9G?

[wesslan]

Try HZ2000 Twm1988 Lovely set and I would say it's a step higher even.

[Twm1988]

Originally Posted by wesslan

Try HZ2000 Twm1988 Lovely set and I would say it's a step higher even.

Wow, that's a beast!! I will try to view that one too next time I'm out,... haven't seriously looked at any new displays in 10 months or so, most high-end AV shops around here want you to book an appointment and not just wander in anymore with the restrictions and such, so I don't want to waste their time with just being a lookie-loo.

Up until now I haven't seen a display yet that I would trade my VT25 for, but perhaps that SONY or Panasonic will start to convince me

[Bluyoda]

As much as I used to love my Pioneer Kuro plasma, my LG C965 OLED is worlds better. It's only natural.

[Twm1988]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

As much as I used to love my Pioneer Kuro plasma, my LG C965 OLED is worlds better. It's only natural.

When you replace your old Plasma with a brand new OLED, it's only natural that you'll enjoy the unnatural motion presentation it delivers, lol

[danny24]

I don't think Plasma TV's are better than 4K OLED's but definitely better than 1080p/4K LCD/LED sets except for QLED. The Kuro Pioneer Plasma's were some of the best along with Panasonic Plasma's. If you can ever get a Kuro cheap and own an LCD or LED TV do it. With OLED/QLED out though Plasma's are not worth dropping more than $500 on anymore.

[Twm1988]

Originally Posted by danny24

I don't think Plasma TV's are better than 4K OLED's but definitely better than 1080p/4K LCD/LED sets except for QLED. The Kuro Pioneer Plasma's were some of the best along with Panasonic Plasma's. If you can ever get a Kuro cheap and own an LCD or LED TV do it. With OLED/QLED out though Plasma's are not worth dropping more than $500 on anymore.

I recently picked up a 60" VT60, it's genuinely the nicest, most natural looking picture I've ever seen... with a high quality Blu-ray movie, it's more like an open window than a tv screen.

Even a new $5000 OLED with HDR and 4K resolution, it will only be brighter and crisper,... while the plasma still looks more natural and still easily has the better motion presentation. There's a depth to the image that a good plasma produces, that any other display can't seem to match

OLED's are good if you have a super bright room, and you like overly crisp artificial detail, and messed up motion issues.