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Old 02-01-2020, 10:58 PM   #4381
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So, is it true that OLED's have a poorer motion resolution than Plasma TVs, or was that a few years ago???
This is an issue with every kind of tv that isn't a plasma. The motion is improved with each new year's model but you're going to deal with some slight judder no matter what you get.
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Old 02-02-2020, 05:36 AM   #4382
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Robert, obvious pricing differences aside, would you say that the CX shows enough improvements to edge out the C9? And/or more improvements/features coming via updates later (future proofing)? Or are the difference too small/subtle negate any C9 closeout deals that might be tempting?
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Old 02-02-2020, 06:07 AM   #4383
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This is an issue with every kind of tv that isn't a plasma. The motion is improved with each new year's model but you're going to deal with some slight judder no matter what you get.
Thank you. So, I have learned that motion resolution on an OLED is only 300-600 lines, versus 800 on a plasma. First of all, what it motion resolution, and why is it so friggin' low?
That's very worrisome.
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Old 02-02-2020, 01:51 PM   #4384
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@WKoA13, hard to say as I was only able to see and work with the CX at LG's off site engineering suite at CES. They were prototypes and I did not have the CX along side of the C9 or have any test patterns to play on the CX.

With all that said the CX delivered gorgeous images and my LG engineer mate spoke very positively about the advancements in the new Gen 3 video processor. Specifically he said the Gen 3 processor will deliver better motion resolution and cleaner up-conversion of low resolution content, like cable. Another upgrade for 2020 is that we now have selectable Black Frame Insertion, so you can set BFI to off, low, medium or high. I tested the available BFI settings and liked low best as it visibly improved motion with no noticeable loss of luminance.

Other enhancements are all related to gaming, like G-SYNC Compatible, FreeSync, VRR (Variable Refresh Rate), ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode), HGiG and the expected input lag will be 5ms.

Here's the CS series pdf spec sheet.

When you upgrade to the GX series you also get ATSC 3.0 tuner, significantly better built-in audio system and a very minimalist modern slim profile with built-in wall mount that holds the TV flush to the wall.

Here's the .pdf spec sheet for the GX series.
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Old 02-02-2020, 03:59 PM   #4385
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An opportunity has presented itself to me for a used 55' B7 for under $500. Part of me wants to pull the trigger as it's in really good shape and I have the money but another part of me wants to continue saving until later this year and go with a newer model 65' OLED to further future proof myself.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:08 PM   #4386
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An opportunity has presented itself to me for a used 55' B7 for under $500. Part of me wants to pull the trigger as it's in really good shape and I have the money but another part of me wants to continue saving until later this year and go with a newer model 65' OLED to further future proof myself.
I'd definitely save for a 65C9, but that's just me.
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Old 02-02-2020, 06:55 PM   #4387
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I'd definitely save for a 65C9, but that's just me.
This is the way that I'm leaning honestly. Maybe even a CX depending on how late in the year I go for it.
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Old 02-03-2020, 02:47 PM   #4388
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WOW....what a great presentation in 4K of the game on the Firestick FOXSports app. I did a little tweaking of toning down the color and it was fantastic. No lag or judder, just the best sports presentation in 4K I have seen to date. I heard it was available on channel 1498 on Fios if you have the new 4K boxes and router. Viewers say it was great there too.
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Old 02-04-2020, 04:25 AM   #4389
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Yep, bought it today, including an extended warranty, so it's covered for 5 years. Will get it tomorrow.

Any suggestions regarding picture settings?
I have the Disney WOW calibration disc for BD/SDR, but no idea how to tackle HDR and Dolby Vision. Will probably get the Munsil...UHD calibration disc down the line?
Is the isf dark the most accurate out of the box for SDR, and cinema for HDR?
I am going to watch Vincent's HDTV videos on the C9 again.
I am using it with an Oppo UDP-203.
Just bought one myself on the 31st as well! Very excited to make the jump to 4k finally.
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Old 02-05-2020, 06:17 PM   #4390
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I just picked up a C9, I understand the hype now! Best PQ I have ever laid eyes on.
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Old 02-07-2020, 04:40 PM   #4391
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I am now the proud owner of the OLED65E6P.

One of the best things about it is the passive 3D (with no loss in resolution because of the 4K upscaling). Any recommendations about where to start with some of the best 3D titles? I own almost every major 3D film produced (am just missing a few high profile ones) so I have plenty to choose from but wouldn’t mind getting suggestions.

4K content also looks stunning with amazing clarity and detail. Rich colors and inky deep black levels.
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:02 PM   #4392
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For modern films, I'd recommend looking at;

1) Hugo (2011)
2) The Martian (2015)
3) Dark Country (2009)
4) Pacific Rim (2013)
5) Edge of Tomorrow (2014)
6) Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
7) In the Heart of the Sea (2015)
8) Journey to the Center of the Earth (2008)
9) Avengers: Infinity War & Avengers: Endgame (2018 & 2019)
10) A Christmas Carol (2009)

3-D Conversions of Classic Films

1) Jurassic Park 3-D (2003)
2) Titanic 3-D (1998)
3) Wizard of Oz 3-D (1939)

To really show off your set I recommend looking into vintage 3-D films. Modern 3-D films are typically shallow and aren't as strong as 3-D films made in the past.

80's 3-D Films

1) Jaws 3-D (1983)
2) Amityville 3-D (1983)
3) Parasite (1982)
4) Comin' At Ya! (1981)
5) Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared-Syn (1983)

50's Golden Age 3-D Films

1) Inferno (1953)
2) House of Wax (1953)
3) Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954)
4) It Came From Outer Space (1953)
5) The Maze (1953)
6) Dial M For Murder (1954)
7) Miss Sadie Thompson (1953)
8) The Mad Magician (1954)
9) Those Redheads From Seattle (1953)
10) Gog (1954)
11) Jivaro (1954)
12) Sangaree (1953)
13) Cease Fire (1953)
14) Revenge of the Creature (1955)
15) Man in the Dark (1953)
16) Gun Fury (1953)
17) Dragonfly Squadron (1954)
18) Kiss Me Kate (1953)

Other Vintage 3-D Films

The Bubble (1966)
The Mask (1961)
September Storm (1959)
A*P*E (1976)

Softcore vintage 3-D Films

The 3-D Nudie Cuties Collection (Bellboy and Playgirls (1962) & Adam & Six Eves (1962)
The Stewardesses (1969)
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Old 02-07-2020, 11:23 PM   #4393
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I am now the proud owner of the OLED65E6P.

One of the best things about it is the passive 3D (with no loss in resolution because of the 4K upscaling). Any recommendations about where to start with some of the best 3D titles? I own almost every major 3D film produced (am just missing a few high profile ones) so I have plenty to choose from but wouldn’t mind getting suggestions.

4K content also looks stunning with amazing clarity and detail. Rich colors and inky deep black levels.
I heard you can't go wrong with Avengers End Game as it has strong 3D. Of course Avatar is also very good. Congrats on the E6.
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Old 02-16-2020, 12:23 AM   #4394
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E6 model here. Got the notice for an update to 05.30.80. Everything ok with that?
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:01 PM   #4395
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I have an LG OLED C9 and I still notice severe stutter or judder on panning shots. It’s especially noticeable on Scarface and Hereditary. I’ve checked for updates and the TV is up to date. I’m using real cinema as well, but there doesn’t seem to be any difference unless I use tru motion, which cause the soap opera effect. Does anyone have any suggestions on settings I could try? Thanks.
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:26 PM   #4396
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I have an LG OLED C6 can you change the LG CONTENT Store from UK to US???
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Old 02-21-2020, 02:05 PM   #4397
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I have an LG OLED C9 and I still notice severe stutter or judder on panning shots. It’s especially noticeable on Scarface and Hereditary. I’ve checked for updates and the TV is up to date. I’m using real cinema as well, but there doesn’t seem to be any difference unless I use tru motion, which cause the soap opera effect. Does anyone have any suggestions on settings I could try? Thanks.
Use TruMotion but ONLY for deblur. Put it at deblur 10. This increases motion resolution without soap opera effect. If you put dejudder on (even at the lowest setting) that is what causes SOA in the TruMotion settings.
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:08 PM   #4398
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I am now the proud owner of the OLED65E6P.

One of the best things about it is the passive 3D (with no loss in resolution because of the 4K upscaling). Any recommendations about where to start with some of the best 3D titles? I own almost every major 3D film produced (am just missing a few high profile ones) so I have plenty to choose from but wouldn’t mind getting suggestions.

4K content also looks stunning with amazing clarity and detail. Rich colors and inky deep black levels.
This website lists true 3d movies vs fake (converted). In general true 3d movies are better.

https://realorfake3d.com/
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Old 02-21-2020, 03:18 PM   #4399
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This website lists true 3d movies vs fake (converted). In general true 3d movies are better.

https://realorfake3d.com/
Thanks for the suggestion. I actually have used that guide before when seeing 3D films theatrically.

I agree that native 3D is better overall (and I prefer certain native 3D cameras over others - the tech used for filming Avatar, Hugo, and Tron: Legacy is still the absolute best, in my opinion) but conversions are radically better than they were when RealD 3D releases started coming out.

I’ve already watched some 3D films that were conversions and these presentations can be impressive as well (when the 3D is implemented properly).

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I’ve noticed that for HDR, black levels seem to be grayish with the default of 50 for brightness. Does anyone have a recommendation of what to set it to? I have an LG OLED C9.
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