The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) (50th Anniversary Edition)

[hanshotfirst1138]

Originally Posted by grim_tales

The MGM disc had the restored Mono, so why shouldn't this?

Because the universe is cruel to fans? I'm just hoping they don't make that mistake, that's all.

[AlexIlDottore]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

There are collectors out there who have unfaded IB tech prints and I'm sure they wouldn't mind helping Kino out if they asked. Some were kind enough to help me out with my regrade.

Please can you contact your collaborators and ask them to contact Kino on their Facebook page?

Thank you very much

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Don't screw up the mono, don't screw screw up, don't scrub the mono....

Amen, brother. "5.1 down mix mono" be damned. Original mono with the original foley effects, please.

[grim_tales]

Would it be a good idea to remind Kino about the correct Mono as well?

[TheHutt]

Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Amen, brother. "5.1 down mix mono" be damned. Original mono with the original foley effects, please.

MGM actually managed to provide it in a silent update of the 4K remaster (the first edition contains the wrong mono audio downmixed from 5.1). Still, it would be nice if Kino used a better codec than 192 kbps DD 1.0 for it.

By the way, the colors after Kino's tweaking look rather like the IB Tech print: still warm in the faces, but with actual blue skies:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp....php?id=110787

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by TheHutt

MGM actually managed to provide it in a silent update of the 4K remaster (the first edition contains the wrong mono audio downmixed from 5.1). Still, it would be nice if Kino used a better codec than 192 kbps DD 1.0 for it.

By the way, the colors after Kino's tweaking look rather like the IB Tech print: still warm in the faces, but with actual blue skies:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp....php?id=110787

Yep, I had that V2 release. Sold it off when this was announced.

[The Great Owl]

I just ordered one of these shirts...

https://www.sunfrog.com/20160910-110338-221609061.html

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I just ordered one of these shirts...

[Show spoiler]https://www.sunfrog.com/20160910-110338-221609061.html

As much as I love that T-Shirt I won't pay more than $15 or so for that one or any other T-Shirt. I have about 20 or so Star Wars T-Shirts and the most I paid for any of them was about $17.

[YouGotMeFeelingBlu]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Might pick this up, I have yet to actually see this movie myself. I feel all these multiple restorations of classic movies is becoming a fad to purely make money instead of preserving them.

It's probably my favorite film. You won't regret it.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

As much as I love that T-Shirt I won't pay more than $15 or so for that one or any other T-Shirt. I have about 20 or so Star Wars T-Shirts and the most I paid for any of them was about $17.

That's a good policy. I was able to use a 10% off code for the above shirt, since I was a first time customer.

[eurospec19]

Originally Posted by TheHutt

MGM actually managed to provide it in a silent update of the 4K remaster (the first edition contains the wrong mono audio downmixed from 5.1). Still, it would be nice if Kino used a better codec than 192 kbps DD 1.0 for it.

A lossless unscrubbed mono track.

Originally Posted by TheHutt

By the way, the colors after Kino's tweaking look rather like the IB Tech print: still warm in the faces, but with actual blue skies:
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Given that the 4K master does look like film, unlike the Mondo, that's no surprise. In terms of color, the major flaw is the yellowish-teal cast. KL needs to address the excess green as well. The problem is KL is attempting to reverse the damage of the 4K master and they can only go so far. They also can't reverse the black crush, which is a separate issue.

[Pecker]

Have Kino said what they've used as their benchmark for the colour?

If they've just heard people say "It's too yellow", so they've altered it to be 'a bit less yellow', that's hardly cause for any rejoicing at all.

The MGM is either right or it's wrong. If it's right, then Kino are wrong to change it. If the MGM is wrong, then just deciding to 'make it a bit less yellow' is just as likely to be wrong.

[Pecker]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

No, and it is NOT his intent. No other film print has ever exhibited that coloring — and original IB tech prints have screened in Los Angeles that did not look teal and yellow, so that's the real confirmation.

You keep saying this, time and time again.

But no offence to you, I don't trust anyone's memory of what they saw in a cinema.

The restoration was apparently done referencing original materials.

I'm not the sort of person to say it's definitely right, but I'm afraid your personal view of what you saw in the cinema is not strong enough evidence for me.

And that's not intended as offence. I wouldn't trust anyone's colour memory on something like this.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Pecker

You keep saying this, time and time again.

But no offence to you, I don't trust anyone's memory of what they saw in a cinema.

The restoration was apparently done referencing original materials.

I'm not the sort of person to say it's definitely right, but I'm afraid your personal view of what you saw in the cinema is not strong enough evidence for me.

And that's not intended as offence. I wouldn't trust anyone's colour memory on something like this.

Having reference prints, and botching the restoration aren't mutually exclusive. They could have perfectly accurate prints, but if they didn't faithfully reproduce that, what good is it? They clearly manipulated the transfer digitally making it completely unnatural. If you know anything about film, then you should realize that it wouldn't have looked like that originally.

There's a mountain of evidence showing that Ritrovata once again botched a transfer, there's no need to re-tread again. Just read through the original thread for its release. It's not like this is new for them, they have a slew of restorations that have this same exact kind of look. This just happens to be the one they got right? When there's other prints that suggest otherwise? Yeah, right..

[AlexIlDottore]

Immagine Ritrovata

Nuff said.

[happydood]

Thanks, Kino. I'm all in again.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by TheHutt

MGM actually managed to provide it in a silent update of the 4K remaster (the first edition contains the wrong mono audio downmixed from 5.1). Still, it would be nice if Kino used a better codec than 192 kbps DD 1.0 for it.

Yeah, it'd be nice to have a lossless encode of the mono.

[Arch Stanton]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I just ordered one of these shirts...

https://www.sunfrog.com/20160910-110338-221609061.html

Colour checks out...

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton

Colour checks out...

Yeah, just like I remember in the theater.

[Doctor Jack]

I have a feeling this thread is going to be unbearable upon this release. Back and forth bickering between the half who love the release and the other half who will cry foul on the image or audio.