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Old 07-20-2009, 10:35 PM   #1
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Question Recording Records In My Situation

OK, so I have a nice Technics (SL-3310) record-player.
I have an (SD) receiver by Sony (STR-DB930).
There is a computer available in the same room.
Which has some kind of Creative audio-card.

What way would you advise I record my records with in case something happens to them?
Or would you advise it with my equipment to start with?
For example, I also have two other record-players, which I don't know the names of at the moment.
But who knows you might say those deliver better quality for example.
Or maybe the audio-card isn't recommended, unless it only processes audio without changing it?

I'd like to know how I can get audio from the record to the computer to begin with.
So what do I connect to what using what cables and such things?

Then also, what software should I record with?
I'd be fine with plain recordings, but if there are programs that can like fix things, that's interesting too.

Space isn't really an issue, at least not this computer, I'd move files here or to CD anyway.
Especially for the amount of records I have at this time.
So I wouldn't mind recording to WAVE or FLAC.
Unless one or the other can hold more info in the file or anything like that.
I'd like to keep some raw and "as-is" as possible files anyway.


Please let me know what I can do best.

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You need an external phono pre amp, hopefully you have one. You'll need an audio card with analog inputs or if you are without you need an rca to 3.5mm cable. Analog inputs would be the best in my opinion. After that just connect and rip, the ripping program deals with the encoding, can do everything from MP3 to FLAC, 8 bit to 24 bit, 44khz to 192 khz.

Khz being the amount of samples per second the program takes of the source material, ie 192 khz = 192,000 samples per second, 44 khz = 44,000 samples per second.

So obviously the higher sample rate = more quality but it also means larger files...
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You need an external phono pre amp, hopefully you have one.
Hm, that would also be in the receiver?
Because it does have a specific turntable-input and all.
But otherwise I'm not sure if I have one.
If it's usually like a whole special separate device, I do not have one.

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You'll need an audio card with analog inputs or if you are without you need an rca to 3.5mm cable. Analog inputs would be the best in my opinion.
The audio-card pretty much has the same thing as any motherboard with audio-features.
So like speaker-connections, but then mic-in, line-in, etc.
I guess I'd use the line-in?...

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After that just connect and rip, the ripping program deals with the encoding...
Rip... you mean I have to record "manually", right? Cause I doubt it would go automatically like with CDs.
I thought I'd put a program on "record" and playback the record.
Then cut each track or a single track, you know...
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Yeah you would connect to line input, not sure how to do it without a phono pre amp, you might be able to if you have pre outs on your amp but I'm really not sure.

And as for play back yeah it would be all manual, start record, start program, stop, cut, paste when done, very labor intensive.
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Have a look at this

I've been using this one for years by the same company.

It could be the same offering. The supplied software from CSB Software (out of Australia) actually works quite well. However, if you are going to use it on a regular basis and are serious are transferring your LP's I suggest upgrading to the full version.

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Yeah you would connect to line input, not sure how to do it without a phono pre amp, you might be able to if you have pre outs on your amp but I'm really not sure.
I have pre-outs, I think one of them is connected to my subwoofer (for the "home-theater") because it's active.
Unless that's not the type you mean.

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And as for play back yeah it would be all manual, start record, start program, stop, cut, paste when done, very labor intensive.
Hm, that's OK, I'm a musician, so I'm used to it. :P
I might get an exercise running from one end of the room to the other though.
With the record-player and the computer being at opposite ends. XD
Good practice...


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Have a look at this

I've been using this one for years by the same company.

It could be the same offering. The supplied software from CSB Software (out of Australia) actually works quite well. However, if you are going to use it on a regular basis and are serious are transferring your LP's I suggest upgrading to the full version.

John
Oh man, I just found that my father had one of those things lying around.
Except it's by a brand called Zolid and a little cheaper.
I think that brand is a daughter-thing of Philips though.
As a TV-card I had was also a Zolid, but the software mentioned Philips...
Then again, the TV-card was quite crappy to be honest, so I don't know.
They seem to be kind of dumbed-down products but I'll have a look at this one.

This one is actually called a "CD Maker".
So I don't know if it's only meant to create CDs with it or anything.
And also if it's perhaps limited to the provided software or anything silly like that.
It does mention you can record records and cassettes and all though.
Also you can "put your audio into formats" and easy recording, etc...

Anyone know if it would be any good?

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I've not heard of it myself, but hook it up and try it out. Maybe you'll get lucky and it ends up working beautifully for you. You've got nothing to lose.

John
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I've not heard of it myself, but hook it up and try it out. Maybe you'll get lucky and it ends up working beautifully for you. You've got nothing to lose.

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Alright, I'll see if I can connect it today.
Also if the cables are long enough, hopefully...
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